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So this probably means either the remake is going down or at least the bundle with the classics.
Brad Wardell's, CEO of Stardock, responseo this mess:
"I read that this evening too. I am not sure what to make of it.

Given that we are the ones who have helped publicize Ghosts, it should be self-evident that we support their project.

It should also be pretty well known to the community that they signed a fairly onerous agreement with Accolade many years ago.

We have nothing but respect for Paul and Fred and are sorry to see them put our mutual fans at odds over their misunderstandings with their former partner.

As has been stated on numerous occasions, we will not use the Ur-Quan related IP without Paul and Fred's approval and involvement.

We are, frankly, mystified why we're being brought into this."
https://forums.starcontrol.com/485378/page/2/#3697083

Also regarding Paul and Fred's blog post.
"In 2013, Stardock bought a limited set of Atari’s assets at a bankruptcy auction -- primarily the name and trademark Star Control® and certain original aspects of Star Control III, like the space cows. It’s our opinion that Atari’s rights to publish our earlier games terminated over a decade before the auction and we contend that Stardock has zero rights to our games, including any code and other IP we created. "
This can't be true since Atari published the original Star Control games on GOG in 2011 and Paul and Fred did nothing. They also did nothing when Stardock acquired the rights to the Star Control games in 2013 and became the publisher on GOG. Also Paul and Fred receive a royalty from the sale of these games so why the drama now.
Post edited December 02, 2017 by Rhonin_Magus
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
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Grargar: There's no control with those games' rights.
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tinyE: bad XD
I posted in a giveaway thread that for every thing, there are two sides. There's the side you have been told and then there's Stardock's side (what is public knowledge of their side; what is shared with a NDA attatched and what is private, confidential company-only knowledge).
Rhonin makes a good point: Atari did publish the games and royalty checks were cashed. I imagine after the rights were bought, the checks continued to be cash AND they are current on royalties. The issue with ghosts may wery well boil down to money or infighting (or both) between Paul and Fred.
Well even though the game wasn't high on my radar and I already own Starflight, I went ahead and got the retro Star Control before it disappeared.
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tinyE: bad XD
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wizisi2k: I posted in a giveaway thread that for every thing, there are two sides. There's the side you have been told and then there's Stardock's side (what is public knowledge of their side; what is shared with a NDA attatched and what is private, confidential company-only knowledge).
Rhonin makes a good point: Atari did publish the games and royalty checks were cashed. I imagine after the rights were bought, the checks continued to be cash AND they are current on royalties. The issue with ghosts may wery well boil down to money or infighting (or both) between Paul and Fred.
are you sure you meant to post that to me? :P
no tiny, I must have clicked the wrong post to quote. The info I said was in general because there's what is public knowledge and what is not about this predicament.
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elcook: snip
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Klumpen0815: Just a small note from me too, that this kind of information is highly appreciated, please keep it going.
I missed too many games on GOG some of which never came back.

Could you make those to be blue NEWS threads in the future?
It's quite important and shouldn't be missed.
That is a really gread idea, but since this is not good news™ that will never happen, because many more people would be notified.
Thanks for the heads-up. I finally broke down and bought them. Although, I wish there was some type of service for the Commodore Amiga and C-64 as they were vastly superior to the PC counterpart, especially in the sound department.
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oldschool: Thanks for the heads-up. I finally broke down and bought them. Although, I wish there was some type of service for the Commodore Amiga and C-64 as they were vastly superior to the PC counterpart, especially in the sound department.
While there isn't from GOG, you can search for amiga (and commodore-64) forever and spend $40 on the 2017 version which gives you free updates for a year (might be $40 total for the edition with 100 games at this point in a bundle due to holidays-I dunno). For the games, you'd have to go hunting online...
A more detailed response from the CEO of Stardock on the situation:
"We are disappointed that Paul and Fred, two people we have a great deal of respect and admiration for, have chosen to imply that we are somehow preventing them from working on their new game.

Stardock has been nothing but supportive of their new project and wish them the best. I personally made the post here on StarControl.com in support of it.

With regards to their contentions:

First, as many people know, the classic Star Control games have been available for sale long before Stardock acquired the rights from Atari four years ago. For the entirety of the time we have held the rights, they have been getting paid for those sales. If they had an objection to the games being sold this is something that could and should have been addressed before we were ever involved.

Second, we have stated, repeatedly and consistently for over four years that we are not using any of the aliens from the classic series. As we have stated, our position is that, to the best of our knowledge, the classic alien IP is owned by them.

We have also discussed, at length, why it wasn't commercially viable for us to attempt to continue or retell the Ur-Quan story. 25 years is just too long of a gap. This is one of the reasons why we have been so excited about Paul and Fred's project. Their game frees us to introduce new characters and a new story into the new Star Control while allowing fans of the classic series a way to continue the classic story. This strikes us as a win-win situation.

Lastly, when we acquired Star Control from Atari in 2013, many assets were transferred to us including the various publishing agreements to the Star Control franchise. The short version is that the classic IP is messy. We understand that this makes them "really really angry" but we weren't a party to that agreement. All we can do is try to put something together that releases them from the restrictions placed on their IP that they agreed to and transfer any and all rights and responsibilities to them. We want them to make Ghosts but we don't want any liability or association with it.

Given the disturbing and unanticipated post by Paul and Fred, we are persuaded more than ever that a clear and irrefutable document that makes it clear that we are not associated or involved with their new game is needed.

We have nothing but respect and admiration for Paul and Fred and wish them well in their new project. "
I think you all may be forgetting that there is a freeware version of The Ur-Quan Masters available online.

That version may be able to tide us all over until this fiasco is resolved.
Thanks for the heads-up. But I can only agree, please make such threads more visible.
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ChainsawGenie: I think you all may be forgetting that there is a freeware version of The Ur-Quan Masters available online.

That version may be able to tide us all over until this fiasco is resolved.
Not only is it free, but I remember it had an updated music pack that improved a LOT of the audio.
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ChainsawGenie: I think you all may be forgetting that there is a freeware version of The Ur-Quan Masters available online.

That version may be able to tide us all over until this fiasco is resolved.
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Sielle: Not only is it free, but I remember it had an updated music pack that improved a LOT of the audio.
Are you talking about this?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/urquanmastershd/
Or this?
http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.php
Post edited December 03, 2017 by Klumpen0815