Emob78: More than that, fans are quite easily piecing together pretty much all the similarities to ANH.
Rey - Luke with tits
Han - Han with a touch of Obi-Wan
BB8 - R2D2
Kylo - Emo Vader
Hux - Tarkin
Death Star - Death Star - Death Star
Instead of Death Star plans we have some sort of map thing. Maguffins everywhere, none of which really have any meaning or purpose for emotion or character building. Just talk talk talk, look surprised, run and gun pew-pew scene, more talk talk talk, rinse and repeat.
After reading some reviews and a plot synopsis it's hard for me to swallow that Lawrence Kasdan actually had anything to do that script.
BoxOfSnoo: You're really desperate to hate this movie. You haven't seen it so you're just following the hive mind. Since you won't stop posting nonsense...
- Rey is extremely unlike Luke. Luke was a sheltered farm boy, anxious to have adventure. Rey is NONE of the above. She wants to stay home, despite all of the difficulties there. She never complains. Luke has his family slaughtered and has a personal stake in bringing down the empire.
- Han is absolutely NOTHING like Obi-Wan. I can't even.
- BB8 is definitely more his own character than Artoo. In the original trilogy C3PO and Artoo were co-characters, this one kinda rolls it up in one, with some extra humour.
- Kylo Ren is *trying* to emulate Vader but he is way, way more driven. He's also kinda unhinged. There's something that makes him
desperate to break away from the light side (we don't know what, yet) and he will sacrifice the things most dear to him to do it. It reminds me WAY more of Jacen in the books than Vader.
- Hux. No opinion. Not a significant character from the way I view the plot.
- Death Star. So? The First Order needs to be some kind of threat to the galaxy, a galaxy that is not actually under its control. It was the weakest part of the story but who cares? What would you suggest otherwise? A virus? A robot army? Then you'd just complain that they're stealing from other movies.
The map plot line is orthogonal to the new mega weapon.
Wishbone: Well, we don't know who he is yet. I've never bought into the weird prequel explanation of "only two sith at a time". It makes no sense. So I expect Snoke to either be Sith (although the movies have never explained what a Sith actually
is), or simply a powerful dark side force adept.
BoxOfSnoo: The "two at a time" restriction was established by Darth Bane. His idea was that the dark side quest was all about power, the student needed to kill the master to prove his power over him and grow. A Sith Lord would never tolerate more than one student. Before that there were Sith academies, lots of students. The ancient Sith were a race, maybe he is supposed to be from that?
Then again, like you said, the movies haven't expounded on that, just the books have done so.
The whole Snoke thing was disappointingly vague. Then again, the whole Ben/Kylo Ren thing was only lightly addressed, there's lots to work with in the sequel. I wish they had laid a bit more groundwork though. I didn't see him as a threat at all, even in ANH the Emperor was the mind behind the Death Star, the one who corrupted Vader, the big bad guy behind the whole oppressive empire.
Following the hive mind? Hahaha... that's hilarious. The hive mind is currently eating Force thunder and crapping out 9.5 lightning. You know what the hive is saying? 'As long as you go in and turn your brain off and just enjoy it for what it is, you'll have a great time.' That's the only answer I need. 'It's a great movie as long as you don't think about it.' Gotcha.
And no, after religiously following Star Wars for 30 years, I have come to terms with the truth - that it is an engine of commerce, that is all. Any residue of mysticism, layered characters, concepts of morality, or interesting... anything... it's all been passed on for vending machine candy and plastic action figures. That's fine. I totally support capitalism. But as a creation of art, I don't pretend that dog shit on a canvas is anything but dog shit on a canvas.
