Its just the name of the PC release that came out much later than the consul one. They added a few extra bits to it really to counter some of the feedback.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

i just discovered myst went freebie --- oh i'd really love to get it --- was it already sold as last chance?

Have BG2?

AC shouldn't take long.

Congratulation.

yes

Yes, it was.

Invalid :/ Oh well. Thanks anyway, +1!

I was there for the 100 and 25. I was just simply stating the it didn't take 3-4 minutes for those 25.

Fascism is the convergence of state and corporations. I am explaining how that happens (here and in post #27092), and how to prevent fascism. That does not qualify as a "fascist rant". (I suspect you are just throwing words around that you don't really understand.)

I said nothing about "deserve". If two people find themselves stranded on two different (otherwise unpopulated) islands, and one of them was a doctor and the other happened to be a survivalist expert, the doctor is probably more likely to end up dead than the survivalist expert -- that is just the way it is. Stating that fact is not the same as saying the doctor "deserves" to die. (Nor is acknowledging the doctor's lack of "deserving to die" saying that the doctor "deserves to steal" from the survivalist expert.)

That's just a stupid straw-man argument.

I did not say capitalism rewards "hard work". Furthermore, I would not say that, as it would be a logical fallacy. (See the long-ago debunked Labor theory of value.)

"conscientiousness" is vague enough to be useless without a specific definition for the given context. (All kinds of people consider themselves "conscientious", but wouldn't agree on what that actually means in terms of real-world actions.)

I did specifically say that people pump out babies that they don't have the capital for, that they are not providing their kids with the capital they need to do well. That's exactly the opposite of what you are accusing me of saying.

You are using a flawed definition of capitalism, because you can not have free-market capitalism without rule of law (which is one of many reasons the US does not have free-market capitalism now). Without rule of law people can (more easily and with less chance of justice being served) engage in fraud or theft to acquire capital. With rule of law it is less likely the "rewards" of such capital can be enjoyed -- specifically due to how it was acquired.

There is plenty of research showing that poor people are dumber than rich ones, and therefore make for crappy voters.

Oh, wait, I just made that up -- just like you made up your statement.

Anyways, what's your point, that you're a bigot? Even if the % of rich people that were unethical were higher than the % of poor people that were unethical, what the hell are you saying? That we should just punish all rich people because some of them acted unethically? Why wouldn't the same (bad) logic apply to poor people?

You're just arguing my point for me! I said parents are pumping out babies even though they don't have the necessary capital to provide for those kids. Of course that tends to mean that poor parents end up with poor kids. Parents should only have kids when they can afford to provide for those kids -- creating kids they know they can't provide for is unethical. (And now I refer you back to your previous point on the ethics of rich vs poor and ask you if your "research" properly accounts for such unethical procreation.)

That's not exactly what social mobility numbers mean (unless you're claiming immobility is 100%, which would be false).

Which is why we need a strong rule of law. Just as so many dumb-ass voters have approved of theft as long as it "makes the world a better place", they've also approved violation of the rule of law (with the same half-baked justification). Consider all of the fraud the bankers engaged in (e.g., the robosigning of bad mortgage documentation) leading to the US housing bubble collapse. Of those bankers, who have destroyed capital amounting to the life-time savings of countless people, how many have been executed? None. How many have been jailed? (Any? I'm not aware of any.) Sure, they get fines, where the fine is 5% or 10% of the profits they made from their illegal (not just unethical but actually illegal!) behavior. That's not rule of law. Where are the people in this? Where are the Vietnam-like demonstrations calling for justice? <<crickets>>

(I'm ignoring "manipulation" above. Fraud [lying] and theft [cheating] should be covered by rule of law. "manipulation" is impossible to pin down as ethical or unethical -- I mean, when GOG offers sale prices on games they are trying to "manipulate" me into buying games that I would not have otherwise purchased. I really don't think GOG should go to jail for that.)

AC really isn't regarded that highly around here going by the ratings and reviews, but it sure does sell well.

Assassin's Creed seems to be losing a little steam. Hopefully Thief 1+2 will be up soon so I can be done with this sale.

*despair* and *sadness*