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MightyPinecone: No, I'm pretty sure the game's called Gremlings Inc, I think you might be the one getting things mixed up. Gobliiins was a point & click game.

(Just messing with ya! :p )
'Why you little...!'
Post edited February 08, 2018 by Lemon_Curry
Tried it twice. Messed up my games folder. Won't try it again.
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HereForTheBeer: I don't have Torment and can't check that one
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GR00T: I do, and just out of curiosity I checked it: there's no Galaxy installer for the game, only Classic installers. At least that's all there is in my library.
Did you ever install Galaxy? I'm usually quite good at avoiding front-ends but this one 'slipped through.' I didn't realize theY starting putting the front-end loaded d/l as the default. :( But what are you saying now? How the Eff was it listed in Galaxy, then? Plus: It's crazy that the first TToN install did not place an .exe in my root game folder

I'm still not seeing Classic or anything related to downloads w/ loader/installer options. [checking] Yes, I do need to uninstall and begin again. I thought about the inet connection [gog vs ie] and was hoping it might be something else, so I'm off to unstall the game and will probably start playing another game when I'm still CTDing on launch. :p

still: Cheers and Thank you, HereForTheBeer!

The One (only?) thing front ends are good for is knowing there's an update but EFF, the resources and instances! Galaxy leaves a LOT to be desired.

[so many edits]
Post edited February 09, 2018 by Cybersquirt
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Cybersquirt: Did you ever install Galaxy?
Yeah, Ive had it installed for a few months now. I install all my games via the 'Classic' installers though, and Galaxy picks them up as soon as they're installed. The few that it missed, I just had Galaxy scan for them and it found them easily.

Check the attached for what I see in my Library for TToN (this is the version I got when I redeemed my Kickstarter reward key for backing the game). No Galaxy installer. Only the 'Classic'. As you can see by the footnote at the bottom, it defaults to the Classic installer as there's no Galaxy-laden installer for TToN (at least not for the version I got from my Kickstarter GOG key).

Second pic is my install folder, where you can see the .exe for Torment highlighted.

Last pic shows Torment in the Galaxy client. Works without issue on my rig. I have no idea what's screwing around with your install. It's definitely weird.
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Post edited February 09, 2018 by GR00T
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GR00T: [...] Check the attached for what I see in my Library for TToN (this is the version I got when I redeemed my Kickstarter reward key for backing the game). No Galaxy installer. Only the 'Classic'. As you can see by the footnote at the bottom, it defaults to the Classic installer as there's no Galaxy-laden installer for TToN (at least not for the version I got from my Kickstarter GOG key). [...]
I don't have this game, so can't check myself, but your first screenshot shows that you're using AF and have the GOG Dowloader links enabled by default, i.e. you always get the Galaxy-free installers as the default dowload when opening a game card.

What do you get if you disable that option (or AF)?
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GR00T: [...] Check the attached for what I see in my Library for TToN (this is the version I got when I redeemed my Kickstarter reward key for backing the game). No Galaxy installer. Only the 'Classic'. As you can see by the footnote at the bottom, it defaults to the Classic installer as there's no Galaxy-laden installer for TToN (at least not for the version I got from my Kickstarter GOG key). [...]
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HypersomniacLive: I don't have this game, so can't check myself, but your first screenshot shows that you're using AF and have the GOG Dowloader links enabled by default, i.e. you always get the Galaxy-free installers as the default dowload when opening a game card.

What do you get if you disable that option (or AF)?
Good point, Hyper, I'd forgotten about that (been using it for so long). However, there's no difference with this title. I just checked it here at work (no AF or BM) and it's the same.
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Cybersquirt: Did you ever install Galaxy?
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GR00T: Yeah, Ive had it installed for a few months now. I install all my games via the 'Classic' installers though, and Galaxy picks them up as soon as they're installed. The few that it missed, I just had Galaxy scan for them and it found them easily.

Check the attached for what I see in my Library for TToN (this is the version I got when I redeemed my Kickstarter reward key for backing the game). No Galaxy installer. Only the 'Classic'. As you can see by the footnote at the bottom, it defaults to the Classic installer as there's no Galaxy-laden installer for TToN (at least not for the version I got from my Kickstarter GOG key).

Second pic is my install folder, where you can see the .exe for Torment highlighted.

Last pic shows Torment in the Galaxy client. Works without issue on my rig. I have no idea what's screwing around with your install. It's definitely weird.
TTon, check. TToN Galaxy, it knows my version, if that makes a diff. and it did not launch. Apparently I need to flatten this bloated beast before I raise more hell
I used Galaxy occasionally but prefer to load my games from the games directories instead.Many times I have noticed they run smoother with Galaxy turned off
sry, I have not hashchk file. Is that because I can't launch or .. ? see rev above
Post edited February 10, 2018 by Cybersquirt
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gamesfreak64: Anyway, i do not favor or like using any client software maybe its because i grew up playing games and installing my games in the old fashioned way: run a setup and thats it.
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HereForTheBeer: That's a large part of my position. Installing games these days isn't that much different from way back when you got a game on floppies: you have the installer files, run the setup, and then play the game. Maybe when the typical manual installation becomes really onerous... but it's nowhere near that point, in my opinion.
Setup files might get errors but you can always download and should always be able to manually download the files cause what good is drm free gaming if you can't download the files manually. ?
With 'manually' i mean without any tools needed ,so no clients or other tools to make life easier for me.

Anyway, i dont mind installing manually , gaming for >40 years i got used to it, besides my brain needs some exercise because with all the click and play and all those fancy clients, some say clients are great and make things better, for me it;s like learning to use the mouse: at first it was horrible to learn to sue the mouse (AMIGA)... but after a while the mouse became an extension of my arm :D so i got used to it, but some things i will never get used to: clients.

If you use clients you will get only more problems cause with the default standalone installer you might get errors ... BUT and this is a very large but the more tools used to install a game the more errors or problems may occur and i dont want or need that, i like it the way it is: buy game download game ( manually no clients) install game and many small games run a charm.

You can install them , then zip or rar the game for later use: lots of (older) games run without installing and once installed this way you can run the game on a new clean windows without filling the registry with tons of entries which will slow the performance eventually.
Post edited February 13, 2018 by gamesfreak64
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HereForTheBeer: <snip>
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gamesfreak64: <snip>
Yep, all of that.

To illustrate, we've been seeing in the forum lately a number of threads where folks new to gOg and Galaxy are having some Galaxy problem and they don't know that they can simply... not use Galaxy. I don't mean uninstall it, but that they can launch the game directly through the executable until the Galaxy issue gets sorted out.

So while the intent of making Galaxy the default installer has probably worked to some extent (maybe a lot, I don't know) to make things easier for those who grew up on clients (and also helped Support), it can also lead some customers to think that they can't play their games outside of the client in the event something goes wrong.

In that regard, for those customers I think gOg might become just another store selling games, and not a store selling DRM-free games. In other words, they might think, "DRM-free... that's a good thing, right?", but not actually understand what that means at the practical level. For one, it means that if the client takes a dump you can still play single-player by opening the executable manually. Sounds like many do not understand that, and I think Galaxy might inadvertently be watering down people's perception of the benefits that DRM-free offers.
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gamesfreak64: <snip>
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HereForTheBeer: Yep, all of that.

To illustrate, we've been seeing in the forum lately a number of threads where folks new to gOg and Galaxy are having some Galaxy problem and they don't know that they can simply... not use Galaxy. I don't mean uninstall it, but that they can launch the game directly through the executable until the Galaxy issue gets sorted out.

So while the intent of making Galaxy the default installer has probably worked to some extent (maybe a lot, I don't know) to make things easier for those who grew up on clients (and also helped Support), it can also lead some customers to think that they can't play their games outside of the client in the event something goes wrong.

In that regard, for those customers I think gOg might become just another store selling games, and not a store selling DRM-free games. In other words, they might think, "DRM-free... that's a good thing, right?", but not actually understand what that means at the practical level. For one, it means that if the client takes a dump you can still play single-player by opening the executable manually. Sounds like many do not understand that, and I think Galaxy might inadvertently be watering down people's perception of the benefits that DRM-free offers.
I agree, and if i want to and i would really want to use a client, i would be able to learn how to work with it, no problem at all.
But... i am not fond of clients, extra clients/ tools might cause more problems and i rather spend hours gaming then contacting or mailing support, so imho i can game without a client, done that for the last 40 years so the rest of (gaming) years to come i can manage quite well without these 'clients'.
Post edited February 16, 2018 by gamesfreak64
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HereForTheBeer: Sounds like many do not understand that, and I think Galaxy might deliberately be watering down people's perception of the benefits that DRM-free offers.
ftfy
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HereForTheBeer: Sounds like many do not understand that, and I think Galaxy might deliberately be watering down people's perception of the benefits that DRM-free offers.
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russellskanne: ftfy
haha, well, I'm not yet ready to believe that gOg has plans to actively move away from DRM-free, so for now I'll chalk it up as what I feel is a potential unintended consequence. To be fair, I have no evidence that this is actually happening, but I suspect - given some of the threads of late - that it could be.