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Posted January 30, 2018
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BKGaming: Nope, down repping isn't "discussions", people actually involved in debating aren't usaully the ones doing that crap. Rep isn't meant to be a "I disgree" button it's meant for downvoting spam post and post that don't add any relevant info to the discussion at hand. GOG should have removed the rep system long ago as we have asked for countless times because of how bad people abuse it, especially those that use alts.
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Asbeau: This again? FFS...

The rest of us are just ignoring the rep system but you're ranting about it, trying to turn this thread into a discussion about it, and generally stressing over it. You should realize that it's not the downvote button that's disrupting the smooth flow of the forum, it's YOU, because you can't cope with a little red mark above one of your posts on a gaming forum.
Well that is something I can agree with. If downvoting BKGaming pisses him off, I should start doing that now, because I don't agree with nearly all he says, but that would make me a bad person. Hm. Now I'm a little bit confused.

Well anyway, after a long thought, it most probably is so that more and more people use the drm client Galaxy, because GOG is pushing this crapware shit like hell AND the clientele that GOG attracted are more and more the "we need a drm client like Steam", but that's is always the way when a company loses its way, just because they need to grow faster and faster.

But I'm still boycotting this shitware.
Posted January 30, 2018
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john_hatcher: Well that is something I can agree with. If downvoting BKGaming pisses him off, I should start doing that now, because I don't agree with nearly all he says, but that would make me a bad person. Hm. Now I'm a little bit confused.
It really doesn't, otherwise why would I continue to post things I know are controversial... but if it makes you happy have at it. More power to you. I'm pissed about what this forum has devolved into, that's it. :)
Post edited January 30, 2018 by user deleted
Posted January 30, 2018
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kohlrak: so, there's no real evidence. Gotcha.
Here ya go.

It's a bit old, sorry, but then again, how often do you have users that actually confess to using alts?
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Post edited January 30, 2018 by Vainamoinen
Posted January 30, 2018
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kohlrak: But it's hard to use it all, especially when you have to judge multiple accounts and things like that. At least with the forums, they have controls.
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JMich: Is it hard? Why? And what kind of control do you suggest they have over the forum?
They can make posts, destroy posts, edit posts, whatever. They can add features, remove features, etc. They have complete control.
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kohlrak: So, multiple votes count?
Depends on how much data you have, and whether you can see if someone has only voted, only commented or both.
Once you have multiple sources, you really can't tell, especially if only one of them is under your complete control.
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kohlrak: Where do you get the idea of using support tickets for feedback? Tht seems strange to me, especially if you want to show support for something. Usually people don't like to go through the "wrong method" for doing something. Support tickets are help requests, not feature feedback mechanisms.
It used to be in the support pages, though I can't find it in the new one. Still, when you go to open a ticket, go to "Other Issues" and take a look through the listed problem types. It has a couple of "suggestions" categories, as well as "kudos / positive feedback" in the listed options.
Weird. That still doesn't suggest that the average shmuck sees it that way. Especially since people typically don't go through such options until they have a problem.

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kohlrak: so, there's no real evidence. Gotcha.
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Vainamoinen: Here ya go.

It's a bit old, sorry, but then again, how often do you have users that actually confess to using alts?
Ok, so we know people have done it, but the snipe hunting i'm referring to is the stuff regarding galaxy. BKGaming is practically shouting at the wind because the post rep counts don't match what he wants it to match. From what I see in this pic, the guy has a few alts. So is he the only one doing it? If there's more, how many more? What issues do these people feel are worth dragging out the alts? Are these people with the alts still here, or did they have their accounts removed by gog?
Posted January 31, 2018
So much discussion when the answer is so simple:

Q: So is everyone using GOG Galaxy now ?

A: No, not everyone is using GOG Galaxy.
Posted January 31, 2018
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DubConqueror: So much discussion when the answer is so simple:

Q: So is everyone using GOG Galaxy now ?

A: No, not everyone is using GOG Galaxy.
Any mention of galaxy is going to bring out the fight. What amazes me is that we still haven't had the conversation. It always seems to boil down to whether or not we trust gog. Reminds me of politics in the west: do you trust the federal government?
Posted January 31, 2018
I've yet to try it, i have no interest in it.

Also i utterly HATE the steam client...
Posted January 31, 2018
I have not tried it yet and don't intend to.
Posted January 31, 2018
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timppu: True, so you are using gogrepo too, then? :)

My GOG games (installers) are on an external hard drive, and when I get an urge to play some game, I just double-click on its installer there and it installs itself. I don't see how Galaxy would make that easier or faster for me, quite on the contrary. It is much easier this way if I just want to quickly try out some game, rather than waiting even several hours while it first downloads from the GOG servers (be it through Galaxy, or without). And, after all, "DRM-free" really makes sense only if you do keep your games (installers) locally.
Eh, haven't heard of it :S

It's that that external storage might not be at hand, while Internet connection to download some game(s) (and Galaxy, if it's not installed yet) is a more available option.
Posted January 31, 2018
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MasterS.249: Eh, haven't heard of it :S
That is easy to fix!

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gogrepopy_python_script_for_regularly_backing_up_your_purchased_gog_collection_for_full_offline_e/page1

The current recommended version (the original author has been inactive for a long time, so others have taken over the project with their own versions):

https://github.com/Kalanyr/gogrepo

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MasterS.249: It's that that external storage might not be at hand, while Internet connection to download some game(s) (and Galaxy, if it's not installed yet) is a more available option.
Well, if you have your GOG games installers on e.g. an external 2.5" USB hard drive, it is easy to keep with you if you travel with your gaming laptop etc. I've done that too when travelling abroad (and there I didn't want to download my games as I was restricted to an expensive prepaid mobile internet connection which had a monthly data cap of 9 GB; I couldn't have downloaded even The Witcher 3 with it).

The only place where I wouldn't routinely take it with me (if I take my laptop there) would be my workplace, and there I wouldn't install Galaxy either.
Post edited January 31, 2018 by timppu
Posted January 31, 2018
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kohlrak: They can make posts, destroy posts, edit posts, whatever. They can add features, remove features, etc. They have complete control.
Thank you. I needed that laugh.

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kohlrak: Once you have multiple sources, you really can't tell, especially if only one of them is under your complete control.
And unless every one of your user base reports something to you, you also can't tell what the majority wants. That's why data analysis is a thing, so you can extrapolate correct (or at least useful) data from a limited set, with unknown variables.

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kohlrak: Weird. That still doesn't suggest that the average shmuck sees it that way. Especially since people typically don't go through such options until they have a problem.
Proper way and common sense don't always agree. Just because one thinks A is the proper way to do something doesn't make it so. People should look and ask about the proper way to do something, and be willing to help others do it properly as well.
Posted January 31, 2018
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kohlrak: They can make posts, destroy posts, edit posts, whatever. They can add features, remove features, etc. They have complete control.
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JMich: Thank you. I needed that laugh.
Seen it in action.
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kohlrak: Once you have multiple sources, you really can't tell, especially if only one of them is under your complete control.
And unless every one of your user base reports something to you, you also can't tell what the majority wants. That's why data analysis is a thing, so you can extrapolate correct (or at least useful) data from a limited set, with unknown variables.
With matters where some groups may be more vocal than other groups, this becomes a problem.
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kohlrak: Weird. That still doesn't suggest that the average shmuck sees it that way. Especially since people typically don't go through such options until they have a problem.
Proper way and common sense don't always agree. Just because one thinks A is the proper way to do something doesn't make it so. People should look and ask about the proper way to do something, and be willing to help others do it properly as well.
Theory and practice also don't always agree, either.
Posted January 31, 2018
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kohlrak: Seen it in action.
I assume you are not talking about the GOG forums.

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kohlrak: With matters where some groups may be more vocal than other groups, this becomes a problem.
Depends on your analyst and how good they are at their job. A good analyst will still be able to get proper results, a bad analyst will declare the end of the world over a handful of very loud people.

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kohlrak: Theory and practice also don't always agree, either.
Yes.
Posted January 31, 2018
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kohlrak: Seen it in action.
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JMich: I assume you are not talking about the GOG forums.
No, i very much am. They're not omnipresent, so it doesn't exactly just happen at random, but i've seen it.
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kohlrak: With matters where some groups may be more vocal than other groups, this becomes a problem.
Depends on your analyst and how good they are at their job. A good analyst will still be able to get proper results, a bad analyst will declare the end of the world over a handful of very loud people.
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I'm very skeptical, short of any feasible explanation. An analyst can only do so much with the data they have, and when they fail, it's the analyst's fault, magically, so they get fired and cycle in a new one.
Posted January 31, 2018
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kohlrak: No, i very much am. They're not omnipresent, so it doesn't exactly just happen at random, but i've seen it.
While the staff can delete and edit posts, as well as lock threads and ban accounts, I would certainly not say they have "complete control" over the forum and can add any feature they want. The forum's code is a mess, and I highly doubt they have anyone who truly understands it. So I would very much like you to explain a bit better what you mean by "complete control".

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kohlrak: I'm very skeptical, short of any feasible explanation. An analyst can only do so much with the data they have, and when they fail, it's the analyst's fault, magically, so they get fired and cycle in a new one.
An analyst can only do so much with the data they have. That does not mean that analyst A and analyst B can do the same with the same data in the same amount of time. An analyst could be faster to identify a trend, could have more experience in what specific trends signify, could have more experience with specific regions and what their mood means and so on. Different analysts may give different results.
Take any of the investment companies and see how often they disagree on whether you should invest in product A or not. See if any of those has a better track record with their recommendations than the others. Or do all of the good record ones have insider knowledge?
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