Posted November 02, 2020

Mafwek
Killing for entertainment is harmlees
Registered: Jun 2013
From Croatia

miracle.flame
New User
Registered: Apr 2016
From Slovakia
Posted November 02, 2020
low rated
@Breja consider you are completely missing the point I made and are trying to see something that isn't there and I've never said it - you did. This discussion is not about particular games, it's about particular practice. So if you are annoyed by this discussion, don't participate - to use your logic the correct valid way.
Maybe that Mafwek we're talking about here is also making up his own ideas which have nothing to do with reality.
Maybe that Mafwek we're talking about here is also making up his own ideas which have nothing to do with reality.
Post edited November 02, 2020 by miracle.flame

Time4Tea
Free speech and honey!
Registered: Jan 2015
From United States
Posted November 02, 2020
If you don't like the look of those games, then vote with your wallet and don't buy them or play them. But please don't expect GOG to tailor their entire catalogue offering to suit your personal tastes.
Those games are DRM-free and many people seem to be playing them and enjoying them. Therefore, they belong on GOG.
Have you played both these games, or are you jumping to conclusions just based on hearsay?
Breja: And Baldur's Gate 3, not only by all indications is it a good game, but expecting a slavishly faithful sequel to the classic games in 2020 was always ridiculous. D&D itself is not what it was back when the original Baldur's were released. It's a different system, three editions removed from what original BG was absed on, with a new, broader audience. The whole culture of cRPG and tabletop RPGs is in a different place. You may not like it, but don't blame BG 3 for it. Not to mention there have also been huge changes in the Forgotten Realms setting and lore during that time too.
Those games are DRM-free and many people seem to be playing them and enjoying them. Therefore, they belong on GOG.
Have you played both these games, or are you jumping to conclusions just based on hearsay?

Post edited November 02, 2020 by Time4Tea

tfishell
Remorse: The List, if you like FPS psych horror
Registered: Oct 2010
From United States
Posted November 02, 2020
everyone is old and bitter

Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted November 02, 2020
What discussion? You're just flinging ridiculous hyperbole and bitter angry general statements without addressing anything anyone else is actually saying.

Acriz
New User
Registered: Aug 2013
From Germany
Posted November 02, 2020

(I am not saying that you did say that, it's just the sentiment I got from you talking about those games previously.)
Post edited November 02, 2020 by Acriz

illiousintahl
New User
Registered: Apr 2010
From Australia
Posted November 02, 2020
uninspiring

eric5h5
New User
Registered: Jul 2011
From Other
Posted November 02, 2020
Larian isn't "lazy" or "cheap". Learn what those words mean. Also they don't have a publisher; they are indie developers, which means they get to make the games they want and don't have to do what a publisher tells them to do. I guess it never occurred to you that Larian made a Baldur's Gate game just because they liked the originals and wanted to do their own take on it? You don't have to like the results (although I would bet money you haven't actually played it), but throwing around accusations like "greedy" is what's actually lazy and cheap. Larian already had name recognition with Divinity: Original Sin, and it would have been easier for them to just coast along with D:OS 3, rather than doing something different.

Breja
You're in my spot
Registered: Apr 2012
From Poland
Posted November 02, 2020


(I am not saying that you did say that, it's just the sentiment I got from you talking about those games previously.)
Or maybe I just sound like a total blowhard sometimes too. Not that surprising, really.
Post edited November 02, 2020 by Breja

rjbuffchix
Online/Galaxy required = DRM.
Registered: Jun 2017
From United States
Posted November 02, 2020

I do think the topic title doesn't really match the first post. I agree with the responses given by mqstout and Lifthrasil...the concern is still the commitment to DRM-free. I'll gladly take DRM-free versions of inferior sequels, over DRM.

miracle.flame
New User
Registered: Apr 2016
From Slovakia
Posted November 02, 2020
low rated
Looks like there is actually someone who understands the topic rather then focusing on adjectives used and messenger himself. I can see how there are many eager to respond out of topic while having no clue what is it really about.
rjbuffchix: I don't know why OP is getting low-rated because their point seems rather obvious to me and I agree with it:
Companies are capitalizing on nostalgia, using the names of classics (or at least personnel that worked on them) to entice people to buy the new games being made. Yet, the new games are lacking in comparison to the classics. So perhaps it is better to support totally novel games like Disco Elysium which arguably offer a better value proposition.
Another point being made here is that when a new game comes out and has been heavily marketed using nostalgia of the classics, if the new game with that marketing is disappointing, then people who haven't played the classics yet might not even bother, since they were disappointed with the newest iteration of that franchise. The word "lacking" used here is as subtle as my words were hyperbolic. Yet sacrificing names this way should be punishable. Just imagine The game Watch Dogs would be named The Matrix. Is it OK to introduce product of such quality targeting particular audience to be named that way? If you didn't watch The Matrix movie back in the day you would be equally clueless on the topic yapping those "if you don't like it, don't buy it" like a parrot or an ape incapable of meaningful and creative sentences of your own that would actually address the point.

Companies are capitalizing on nostalgia, using the names of classics (or at least personnel that worked on them) to entice people to buy the new games being made. Yet, the new games are lacking in comparison to the classics. So perhaps it is better to support totally novel games like Disco Elysium which arguably offer a better value proposition.
Another point being made here is that when a new game comes out and has been heavily marketed using nostalgia of the classics, if the new game with that marketing is disappointing, then people who haven't played the classics yet might not even bother, since they were disappointed with the newest iteration of that franchise.
Post edited November 02, 2020 by miracle.flame

amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
Registered: Sep 2008
From United Kingdom

Icinix
Peeler of Banana
Registered: Jul 2009
From Australia
Posted November 02, 2020
I get the impression that despite titling this thread with a question - you don't want to hear others opinions - but I think it's been great.
There has been some banger releases and there is some more coming.
I thought Outer Worlds was excellent, haven't grabbed Baldurs Gate 3 yet (but loving what I'm seeing so far) and think the 1 star review bombing is a far bigger sin on the game scene (as you put it) than any games released recently.
We have YouTube, Twitch, Media and demos and whatever else to find out a game before we buy. If someone can't explore those to find out about a game before they buy, that's on them.
As for name dropping in games advertising, I like knowing a companies reputation and the names involved, it gives me an idea about the kind of game it will be. It may not be the be all and end all, but it's another piece of information to help inform my decision.
There has been some banger releases and there is some more coming.
I thought Outer Worlds was excellent, haven't grabbed Baldurs Gate 3 yet (but loving what I'm seeing so far) and think the 1 star review bombing is a far bigger sin on the game scene (as you put it) than any games released recently.
We have YouTube, Twitch, Media and demos and whatever else to find out a game before we buy. If someone can't explore those to find out about a game before they buy, that's on them.
As for name dropping in games advertising, I like knowing a companies reputation and the names involved, it gives me an idea about the kind of game it will be. It may not be the be all and end all, but it's another piece of information to help inform my decision.

tomimt
Optimum rat
Registered: May 2010
From Finland
Posted November 02, 2020
In this topic: GOG is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't.
In other news, fire is reportedly hot.
In other news, fire is reportedly hot.

dnovraD
2023-08-14: Remember the Spaces!
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted November 03, 2020
Okay, so I've read over the OP.
What are they complaining about? That GOG is selling titles on some idea of gloss and that Baldies' Gate 3 has problems?
To the OP: You do realize GOG is selling Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, right? That is very much a chufty old DOS game.
What are they complaining about? That GOG is selling titles on some idea of gloss and that Baldies' Gate 3 has problems?
To the OP: You do realize GOG is selling Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, right? That is very much a chufty old DOS game.