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Randalator: That's why you don't buy on release day but wait for the inevitable GOTY/Ultimate/Definitve/Whatever Collection instead which gives you the whole package for a fraction of the price.

Game Buying 101
Bingo. Exactly this. And seriously, with the backlog that most of us have, it's ludicrous to shell out that much for a game when you know there will be some kind of complete edition available down the road for a fraction of the cost.
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hucklebarry: Maybe I missed most of the discussion, but its slowly dawned on me that, thanks to DLC, most AAA games now just assume a "Season Pass". Which means to buy the game at launch, you are gonna fork out $59.99 for the base game and then $29.99 for the season pass.
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Ganni1987: If you think that's too much, Think Again. Just expand the DLC list and scroll to the bottom for final price.

:D
Dang...well...if there was the same list for a game like baldur's gate, I would have to sell my car...
TW3 DLEP (Downloaded Expansion Pack(s))

Not quite DLC not quite Boxed Expansion Pack
well you can always just wait for the price to go down.
no one has a gun to your head makin anyone buy the games when they are launched.
after all launch price is just for the company to make quick cash

now of course this is just my opinion so if y'all feel the need to get the latest game that comes out its up to you.
its your money, me i prefer the more economic path of waiting to the price to drop to a more comfortable level.
even if it takes a year or more. in the end we all get and enjoy the games we like.

anyway that's my $0.02
Vyr out
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rtcvb32: I recall a while back that developers said they needed to raise prices for higher quality games, and the community revolted and said no. So they are cutting content, DLC, micro-transactions, etc.

It would be SOOO much easier to just back off and go for quality levels a little easier to develop for rather than trying to make things photo realistic and using as many filters/effects. Honestly a LOT of PS2 games are still awesome today, gameplay and graphics-wise. If they HAVE to have higher level graphics, then develop for the 360/PS3 level and stop after that, rather than pushing the envelope.
Imho all the effects in current gen AAA games are extremely distracting for me. I practically have no selective perception, so playing PS2 games is actually a lot more fun for me, although I mostly play classics and indies where even in HD there's not too much going on. I love Trine though, there are tons of distracting nice details, but you usually have the time to progress in your own pace.

When it comes to the biggest publishers, there's no clear difference between movies and games anymore, both have the same problems and the active part in games is constantly being reduced.
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Randalator: That's why you don't buy on release day but wait for the inevitable GOTY/Ultimate/Definitve/Whatever Collection instead which gives you the whole package for a fraction of the price.

Game Buying 101
Exactly.

Go buy some older complete games and you're good, it's way cheaper, already patched and you don't have to install so much stuff separately.
Post edited December 10, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Vyraexii: well you can always just wait for the price to go down.
I will wait for a game to lower in price. Be it console or otherwise. As such i haven't bought a game over $20 in a long time, one of the few games i bought with a really really low discount was TIS-100 (and was like $8).

I can't help but remember looking at [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Returns:_Final_Fantasy_XIII]Lightning Returns[/url] (PS3), seeing the $60 price and shook my head. 2-3 years later it's now low enough at about $20.
The first game that I had to buy for myself, and kept the receipt, was Quest for Glory 2. So at the beginning of the 1990s, with game budgets hovering around half a million dollars, games cost $70 on release.

$100 for a new game isn't really all that much.

[url= Keeping the receipt was an important part because I don't have to try to remember. When I bought Heroes Quest, was it $60 or $65? Can't honestly say, now. Too long. Forgot too much ;) ][/url]
Will consoles follow? I mean, they're following already (AAA releases cheap cheap, right? Right? :P) amirite?
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Smannesman: W3 also has a season pass.
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Yeshu: The difference is that with the Witcher you are getting actual expansions and not glorified mission packs.
Also the expansions themselves are not really expensive.
Our definition of expensive is obviously different.
The Witcher 3 Expansion Pass costs $25. That's more than I have paid for any single full game (counting all DLCs, if any) in my life.
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OneFiercePuppy: $100 for a new game isn't really all that much.
Is it not so much? I'd consider anything over $10 as a lot of money still personally. I could get five bowie knifes, several books, a bunch of food, 4 Raspberry Pi's, 20 Raspberry Pi Zeros, 1,500 feet of Paracord, 6 pounds of Bankline (probably 6000+ ft), a high quality tarp and mess Kit, a new Hard drive, five sets of shoes (or more!), a near lifetime supply of bleach, a Gamecube (second hand) to include 5 games...

[url=Cute note by the way :P][/url]
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Randalator: That's why you don't buy on release day but wait for the inevitable GOTY/Ultimate/Definitive/Whatever Collection instead which gives you the whole package for a fraction of the price.

Game Buying 101
Keep preaching good man. +1
I remember when Chrono Trigger first came out way back in '95, I bought that for $60, and you got the full game with no DLC to buy later. Man those were the days...
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Yeshu: The difference is that with the Witcher you are getting actual expansions and not glorified mission packs.
Also the expansions themselves are not really expensive.
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mrkgnao: Our definition of expensive is obviously different.
The Witcher 3 Expansion Pass costs $25. That's more than I have paid for any single full game (counting all DLCs, if any) in my life.
Seriously? I understand that people have different incomes but 25$ can be saved up in a month.
Unless you're one of those special sales vampires.
Post edited December 10, 2015 by Yeshu
Since I only buy DRM-free, I haven't experienced too much sticker shock. But when I first saw a $90 entry for Pillars of Eternity I made the pledge to not buy that game (at any tier) until it hit 80% off. I've still got some years to wait - no worries, my massive collection of DRM-free games should get me through the interim. :)
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mrkgnao: Our definition of expensive is obviously different.
The Witcher 3 Expansion Pass costs $25. That's more than I have paid for any single full game (counting all DLCs, if any) in my life.
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Yeshu: Seriously? I understand that people have different incomes but 25$ can be saved up in a month.
Unless you're one of those special sales vampires.
I can pay $25 for a game, but I don't want to. I don't think it's worth it.

For example, King's Bounty: The Legend is an absolutely awesome game that I have played for hundreds of hours and it only costs $6 without sale (I paid $5 for it back in 2010). There might be better games out there, but 5 times better ($5 x 5 = $25)?! Or 20 times better ($5 x 20 = $100)?! No way.

I believe somewhere between $5 and $15 is a fair price for most games (including all DLCs and expansions); a bit more for indie games, a bit less for mass-market games.
Post edited December 10, 2015 by mrkgnao