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Sachys: GREY
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PROLIFERATION
Is that really a problem though? I know people who started using Steam solely because of the sheer number of keys out there from bundle sites, and now they're diehard Steam users. It would probably be a similar situation for GOG?
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Sachys: GREY
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SpikedWallMan: Is that really a problem though?
The reason why it's called "grey" is because it is problematic, such as selling stolen keys and review keys which aren't supposed to be distributed, but on the other hand it's simply another way to sell keys, and is used by some indie developers themselves, so not any black market.

You can find all GOG keys offered by Amazon Prime Gaming on those sites, so there's no doubt that free keys will end up there if such keys are given. But whether GOG is losing any actual sales, or getting free publicity on those sites can be debated.

Speaking of Amazon, I'm sure some of these games will end up in their free game offers, just like games from previous GOG bundles did.

In any case, that's a real good bundle offer, and as I only have one or two of those games before, I think I'm going to get it, even though it is a bit annoying if you can't give duplicate keys to someone else.
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SpikedWallMan: Is that really a problem though?
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PixelBoy: The reason why it's called "grey" is because it is problematic, such as selling stolen keys and review keys which aren't supposed to be distributed, but on the other hand it's simply another way to sell keys, and is used by some indie developers themselves, so not any black market.

You can find all GOG keys offered by Amazon Prime Gaming on those sites, so there's no doubt that free keys will end up there if such keys are given. But whether GOG is losing any actual sales, or getting free publicity on those sites can be debated.

Speaking of Amazon, I'm sure some of these games will end up in their free game offers, just like games from previous GOG bundles did.

In any case, that's a real good bundle offer, and as I only have one or two of those games before, I think I'm going to get it, even though it is a bit annoying if you can't give duplicate keys to someone else.
My thoughts on Amazon are the same. I wonder if some will show up here from Prime.


I already have Blade of Darkness on Steam. If that want not the case, I would get it for 100% as BoD and Chasm are the real deal I find in this one.
Is the bundle blocked in Germany? I always get "Product unavailable" when I try to buy it.
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PaterAlf: Is the bundle blocked in Germany? I always get "Product unavailable" when I try to buy it.
Ah maybe the WWII strategy games have imagery that's banned in Germany?
Do all the games show up as separately available in Germany on here?
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PaterAlf: Is the bundle blocked in Germany? I always get "Product unavailable" when I try to buy it.
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Fever_Discordia: Ah maybe the WWII strategy games have imagery that's banned in Germany?
Do all the games show up as separately available in Germany on here?
No, two of the games are blocked here two (Great Naval Battles and Wargame Construction Set II). But I still think it's strange that they don't let me buy the rest of the bundle.

But ok, I'll move to another country this afternoon and will try it again. ;-)
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htn: Oh, sorry I made same thread too... These games are keyless activations unfortunately for sure...
Btw edit your post with my thread content, so your thread will be with links

And about bundle itself - I like it, even having Blade of Darknes + SSI Collection and I really hope GOG support will refund Siege of Avalon, I bought it recently too :P
I bought it anyway, just to support GOG bundles and I wanted Diggles + Warlords a lot and Chasm a bit.
Hi, i saw it now. Thanks a lot. I post your info to make more complet the post. Probably i will buy it to support now. Furthermore, there are quite good games. I hope more bundles in the future ^^.
Not a bad bundle per se, if you have any interest in these old games.

Of these 23 games, I so far only own six here on GOG.
And of the other 17, I had a whopping ten on my (now defunct) wishlist.

As for the other seven: I would see those as "bycatch"...something, I would probably never install and play.

But even if I only count those ten games: €9,05 for ten games...rounded up that's €0,91 per game. Not bad.
A quick GOGdb search confirmed, that that's the lowest price on GOG for all these games - by far.
(and yes, I know: it's €9,05 / 23 = ~ €0,39 per game...but since I own a few already and I have zero interest in a few others...)

But there's one thing, that has me hesitating: two of the games in the bundle are not officially available for German GOG customers.
And one of those two, I would be interested in.

In the OP it says: "All of the games in this bundle are available on GOG for Windows via keyless integration."

So, I assume, I have to link my GOG account to HB and after purchase, the games will get added automatically to my GOG account?
Does a fellow German know, whether I would be able to claim these two games with my German IP?
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SpikedWallMan: Is that really a problem though?
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PixelBoy: The reason why it's called "grey" is because it is problematic, such as selling stolen keys and review keys which aren't supposed to be distributed, but on the other hand it's simply another way to sell keys, and is used by some indie developers themselves, so not any black market.

You can find all GOG keys offered by Amazon Prime Gaming on those sites, so there's no doubt that free keys will end up there if such keys are given. But whether GOG is losing any actual sales, or getting free publicity on those sites can be debated.
I agree that the case of stolen/review keys ending up on the grey market is a problem, but that's not the situation here. GOG was paid for keys distributed via Amazon (or Humble, if they were doing that here) so they aren't necessarily losing sales.

In the case of a customer, the person buying the bundle can effectively lose money because someone with none of these games is getting a certain value for their money but someone with all but one game is getting an entirely different value for their money. So Humble/GOG is taking money for products not delivered which in any other scenario would be deemed a shady practice. I would see this as a much bigger issue than worries about someone trying to sell a duplicate key on a grey market site.
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SpikedWallMan: I would see this as a much bigger issue than worries about someone trying to sell a duplicate key on a grey market site.
Example: of the 23 games, I own six.

Let's say, I'd receive a "gift key" for each of these six games.
Then I go and sell all these (100% legit!) keys for €1,- each.

Now think of that same situation, but for someone who owns ten, twelve or 15 games in that bundle already...

And finally, take that times "n", where "n" is the number of sold bundles.
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BreOl72: Let's say, I'd receive a "gift key" for each of these six games. Then I go and sell all these (100% legit!) keys for €1,- each.
There's an easy solution for that; simply allow us to build our own bundle like Fanatical. Customers don't get fewer games from the bundle because they already own a few and account linking prevents customers from selling the keys they get.
Post edited October 10, 2024 by Hurricane0440
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BreOl72: Let's say, I'd receive a "gift key" for each of these six games. Then I go and sell all these (100% legit!) keys for €1,- each.
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Hurricane0440: That's a much better compromise.
Sure.
You should propose that to HB.
For someone in interest, i bought the RPGbundle last winter sale linking my gog account. Now, i have bought this bundle and said that my account integration was expired and i have relinked the account. So, is not sure, but the expiration data for linked accounts is not very long.
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argamasa: For someone in interest, i bought the RPGbundle last winter sale linking my gog account. Now, i have bought this bundle and said that my account integration was expired and i have relinked the account. So, is not sure, but the expiration data for linked accounts is not very long.
That is indeed interesting.
Thanks.
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BreOl72: Does a fellow German know, whether I would be able to claim these two games with my German IP?
You can't even buy the bundle, because of the two blocked games. :(

If you want it, you'll have to visit another country. And also change the location in the setting of your Humble Bundle account. Then you can buy the bundle and activate all games.