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Posted July 13, 2021
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fronzelneekburm: which is legit banned for realz in Germany
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MarkoH01: Not completely true. It isn't allowed to be sold in Germany but you are still allowed to import it from elsewhere as long as you only use it for yourself.

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Orkhepaj: nah , nearly nothing is banned here
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MarkoH01: This might be true for games but surely not for everthing ;)
like what?
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MarkoH01: Not completely true. It isn't allowed to be sold in Germany but you are still allowed to import it from elsewhere as long as you only use it for yourself.
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Maxvorstadt: As far as I know, its allowed for adults to buy this game.

From Wikipedia:
Nachdem das Verwaltungsgericht Köln jedoch keinen Verstoß gegen das Strafgesetz sah,[18] wurde der Titel in Listenteil A verschoben,[19][20] der lediglich das Bewerben, die öffentliche Zurschaustellung und den Verkauf an Minderjährige verbietet.
dont use wiki , cant you find the law or edict or whatever related to this?
Post edited July 13, 2021 by Orkhepaj
Posted July 13, 2021
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Orkhepaj: like what?
Would be off topic and might drift into political discussions. If you don't know that's fine but I wont post it here.
(If you really need to know I can post a link for you via chat)
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MarkoH01: Not completely true. It isn't allowed to be sold in Germany but you are still allowed to import it from elsewhere as long as you only use it for yourself.
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Maxvorstadt: As far as I know, its allowed for adults to buy this game.

From Wikipedia:
Nachdem das Verwaltungsgericht Köln jedoch keinen Verstoß gegen das Strafgesetz sah,[18] wurde der Titel in Listenteil A verschoben,[19][20] der lediglich das Bewerben, die öffentliche Zurschaustellung und den Verkauf an Minderjährige verbietet.
Whenever you post a quote the source would be a good idea as well. In the Bundesanzeiger I could only find the game listed in part B so I would love to see the source of your quote to follow it up.
Post edited July 13, 2021 by MarkoH01
Posted July 13, 2021
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Orkhepaj: like what?
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MarkoH01: Would be off topic and might drift into political discussions. If you don't know that's fine but I wont post it here.
(If you really need to know I can post a link for you via chat)
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Maxvorstadt: As far as I know, its allowed for adults to buy this game.

From Wikipedia:
Nachdem das Verwaltungsgericht Köln jedoch keinen Verstoß gegen das Strafgesetz sah,[18] wurde der Titel in Listenteil A verschoben,[19][20] der lediglich das Bewerben, die öffentliche Zurschaustellung und den Verkauf an Minderjährige verbietet.
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MarkoH01: Whenever you post a quote the source would be a good idea as well. In the Bundesanzeiger I could only find the game listed in part B so I would love to see the source of your quote to follow it up.
[url=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_(Computerspiel)#Ver%C3%B6ffentlichung]https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_(Computerspiel)#Ver%C3%B6ffentlichung[/url]
Well, I tried, but GOG doesn`t like some links!
Post edited July 13, 2021 by Maxvorstadt
Posted July 13, 2021
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MarkoH01: Would be off topic and might drift into political discussions. If you don't know that's fine but I wont post it here.
(If you really need to know I can post a link for you via chat)

Whenever you post a quote the source would be a good idea as well. In the Bundesanzeiger I could only find the game listed in part B so I would love to see the source of your quote to follow it up.
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Maxvorstadt: [url=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_(Computerspiel)#Ver%C3%B6ffentlichung]https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_(Computerspiel)#Ver%C3%B6ffentlichung[/url]
Well, I tried, but GOG doesn`t like some links!
Ah, you were talking about Sleeping Dogs. (Yes, the regular(!) game is on part A of the list) but fronzelneekburm was talking about Soldier of Fortune Payback.
Posted July 13, 2021
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Orkhepaj: like what?
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MarkoH01: Would be off topic and might drift into political discussions. If you don't know that's fine but I wont post it here.
(If you really need to know I can post a link for you via chat)
why would it be political?
is it drugs? drugs are bad for humans and it is good they are banned
Posted July 13, 2021
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Maxvorstadt: [url=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_(Computerspiel)#Ver%C3%B6ffentlichung]https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Dogs_(Computerspiel)#Ver%C3%B6ffentlichung[/url]
Well, I tried, but GOG doesn`t like some links!
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MarkoH01: Ah, you were talking about Sleeping Dogs. (Yes, the regular(!) game is on part A of the list) but fronzelneekburm was talking about Soldier of Fortune Payback.
Okay, wait: I thought this thread is about Sleeping Dogs? Confused now I am!
Posted July 13, 2021
So why is it banned in Germany then, is it simply because it has some violence in it, as I don’t remember anything extraordinary in terms out anything else. If so you can’t have many games in DE as even Mario has bouncing on heads. Ludicrous if you ask me. Cracking game thoug, better than GTA I would say, probably one of the best open world games, alongside the saboteur (again, you probably can’t get that either).
Posted July 13, 2021
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MarkoH01: Ah, you were talking about Sleeping Dogs. (Yes, the regular(!) game is on part A of the list) but fronzelneekburm was talking about Soldier of Fortune Payback.
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Maxvorstadt: Okay, wait: I thought this thread is about Sleeping Dogs? Confused now I am!
It's easy to get unconfused - just read the thread from the beginning :)
But since I know that we all never have enough time I'll give you a summary:

The thread at first was only about Sleeping Dogs being blocked in Germany. Of course the usual discussion went on in which it has been explained why games in Germany are sometimes restricted. It went on with the question if Germany actually is banning games at all and Soldier of Fortune Paypback then has been mentioned as being one game that is banned in Germany. I replied that it is not really banned but only restricted and then you quoted my post.

So as you can see - it is easy to go from Sleeping Dogs to SoF :)
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nightcraw1er.488: So why is it banned in Germany then, is it simply because it has some violence in it, as I don’t remember anything extraordinary in terms out anything else. If so you can’t have many games in DE as even Mario has bouncing on heads. Ludicrous if you ask me. Cracking game thoug, better than GTA I would say, probably one of the best open world games, alongside the saboteur (again, you probably can’t get that either).
1) It is NOT banned in Germany - as I tried to explain.
2) Yes, the problem with this game according to the youth protectors is violence that will help you reach your goal. So according to them it is not suitable for persons <18 and stores that want to selll the game to Germans would have to provide true age verification systems to make sure that only persons >=18 will be able to get it. GOG does not provide such a system and so they simply don't sell to Germans.

And yes, the criteria of a game being not suitable for kids sometimes are ridiculous and highly subjective - that's one of the many problems with this part of the German youth protection law.
Post edited July 13, 2021 by MarkoH01
Posted July 13, 2021
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Maxvorstadt: Okay, wait: I thought this thread is about Sleeping Dogs? Confused now I am!
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MarkoH01: It's easy to get unconfused - just read the thread from the beginning :)
But since I know that we all never have enough time I'll give you a summary:

The thread at first was only about Sleeping Dogs being blocked in Germany. Of course the usual discussion went on in which it has been explained why games in Germany are sometimes restricted. It went on with the question if Germany actually is banning games at all and Soldier of Fortune Paypback then has been mentioned as being one game that is banned in Germany. I replied that it is not really banned but only restricted and then you quoted my post.

So as you can see - it is easy to go from Sleeping Dogs to SoF :)
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nightcraw1er.488: So why is it banned in Germany then, is it simply because it has some violence in it, as I don’t remember anything extraordinary in terms out anything else. If so you can’t have many games in DE as even Mario has bouncing on heads. Ludicrous if you ask me. Cracking game thoug, better than GTA I would say, probably one of the best open world games, alongside the saboteur (again, you probably can’t get that either).
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MarkoH01: 1) It is NOT banned in Germany - as I tried to explain.
2) Yes, the problem with this game according to the youth protectors is violence that will help you reach your goal. So according to them it is not suitable for persons <18 and stores that want to selll the game to Germans would have to provide true age verification systems to make sure that only persons >=18 will be able to get it. GOG does not provide such a system and so they simply don't sell to Germans.

And yes, the criteria of a game being not suitable for kids sometimes are ridiculous and highly subjective - that's one of the many problems with this part of the German youth protection law.
so is this to protect the kids? hmm
is it only from violence or other things too like sexual things some games here have?
I mean are furry/lmbtq games also banned in ger?
banned or restricted ofc
Post edited July 13, 2021 by Orkhepaj
Posted July 13, 2021
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Maxvorstadt: Okay, wait: I thought this thread is about Sleeping Dogs? Confused now I am!
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MarkoH01: It's easy to get unconfused - just read the thread from the beginning :)
But since I know that we all never have enough time I'll give you a summary:

The thread at first was only about Sleeping Dogs being blocked in Germany. Of course the usual discussion went on in which it has been explained why games in Germany are sometimes restricted. It went on with the question if Germany actually is banning games at all and Soldier of Fortune Paypback then has been mentioned as being one game that is banned in Germany. I replied that it is not really banned but only restricted and then you quoted my post.

So as you can see - it is easy to go from Sleeping Dogs to SoF :)
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nightcraw1er.488: So why is it banned in Germany then, is it simply because it has some violence in it, as I don’t remember anything extraordinary in terms out anything else. If so you can’t have many games in DE as even Mario has bouncing on heads. Ludicrous if you ask me. Cracking game thoug, better than GTA I would say, probably one of the best open world games, alongside the saboteur (again, you probably can’t get that either).
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MarkoH01: 1) It is NOT banned in Germany - as I tried to explain.
2) Yes, the problem with this game according to the youth protectors is violence that will help you reach your goal. So according to them it is not suitable for persons <18 and stores that want to selll the game to Germans would have to provide true age verification systems to make sure that only persons >=18 will be able to get it. GOG does not provide such a system and so they simply don't sell to Germans.

And yes, the criteria of a game being not suitable for kids sometimes are ridiculous and highly subjective - that's one of the many problems with this part of the German youth protection law.
Ah, what GOG needs is one of those screens you get on steam asking you to put your date of birth in as verification. Those things are infallible!
Posted July 13, 2021
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Orkhepaj: so is this to protect the kids? hmm
is it only from violence or other things too like sexual things some games here have?
I mean are furry/lmbtq games also banned in ger?
banned or restricted ofc
I am sure lgbtq/furry games are NOT restricted in Germany because ... why?
However sexual explicit games are most certainly restricted as well. However Germany is not extremely strong when it comes to nudes only.
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nightcraw1er.488: Ah, what GOG needs is one of those screens you get on steam asking you to put your date of birth in as verification. Those things are infallible!
Would not be enough for German standards AT ALL.
We are talking about age verification using your passport and such. Not a Leisure Suit Larry kind of "age verification" :)
Post edited July 13, 2021 by MarkoH01
Posted July 13, 2021
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Orkhepaj: so is this to protect the kids? hmm
is it only from violence or other things too like sexual things some games here have?
I mean are furry/lmbtq games also banned in ger?
banned or restricted ofc
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MarkoH01: I am sure lgbtq/furry games are NOT restricted in Germany because ... why?
However sexual explicit games are most certainly restricted as well. However Germany is not extremely strong when it comes to nudes only.
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nightcraw1er.488: Ah, what GOG needs is one of those screens you get on steam asking you to put your date of birth in as verification. Those things are infallible!
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MarkoH01: Would not be enough for German standards AT ALL.
We are talking about age verification using your passport and such. Not a Leisure Suit Larry kind of "age verification" :)
to protect the children ofc, so they can grow up to be normal
well lgbt is all about sexuality , and looks like furry cult too
Posted July 13, 2021
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Orkhepaj: to protect the children ofc, so they can grow up to be normal
You still think, that somebody can be seduced into being gay?
Wow!
And "normal"? OMG ... okay. I better stop here.
Post edited July 13, 2021 by MarkoH01
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Orkhepaj: to protect the children ofc, so they can grow up to be normal
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MarkoH01: You still think, that somebody can be seduced into being gay?
Wow!
And "normal"? OMG ... okay. I better stop here.
yep , better stop here even if it is slightly related to game restrictions
Posted July 14, 2021
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nightcraw1er.488: Ah, what GOG needs is one of those screens you get on steam asking you to put your date of birth in as verification. Those things are infallible!
As Marco wrote: With German bureaucrazy and madness expect the worse, and then some.
The only approved system is "PostIdent" - which requires sending tokens via snail-mail and proving to the postman (via ID) that you are indeed the one.
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