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Clownski_: Hey everyone, I wanted to chime in here and share our perspective on the matter. When you give us consent for direct marketing communications, we will use the services of our Trusted Partners to allow for direct, online communications through third-party services - it is a common practise, but we wanted to be as upfront and transparent about it as possible, hence the notice visible on the screenshot. Of course, you can revoke your consent at any time by unchecking the “Marketing communications'' checkbox in your account settings. So, in context of giveaways, you can claim one and then immediately revoke your consent if you do not want to receive a more personalized GOG ads.
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wolfsite: You can make it up to use by getting more games from Triple A Publishers here. When was the last time an Ubi-soft game showed up? Or an EA game, would love the Mass Effect series or Dead Space 2 to show up. :)
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I know many people wouldn't be satisfied / would still be angry (which is fine), but if this were the actual connected result somehow, at least for me that would "dull the pain". :P Or something like "if you allow us to share, you get store credit" or "we'll be able to afford to do more game giveaways". Again I know many people would still be very unhappy (which is fine), but to me the above would at least seem more consumer-friendly. (I understand if people want to respond as this is a hot-button issue, but I'm not interested in arguing.)

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Clownski_: ...it is a common practise, but we wanted to be as upfront and transparent about it as possible, hence the notice visible on the screenshot.
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Timboli: I'm sorry, but that notice is not enough.

I would tolerate a checkbox in that notice that was selected, that I could deselect before grabbing the game, but that's it.
I feel similarly.
Post edited August 30, 2023 by tfishell
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Clownski_: Hey everyone, I wanted to chime in here and share our perspective on the matter. When you give us consent for direct marketing communications, we will use the services of our Trusted Partners to allow for direct, online communications through third-party services - it is a common practise, but we wanted to be as upfront and transparent about it as possible, hence the notice visible on the screenshot. Of course, you can revoke your consent at any time by unchecking the “Marketing communications'' checkbox in your account settings. So, in context of giveaways, you can claim one and then immediately revoke your consent if you do not want to receive a more personalized GOG ads.
If the email address is truly hashed and anonymised and no other coincidental linked data is sent to google/facebook at the same time (such as user agent, screen resolution) which can absolutely be used to fingerprint users when you have the reach and resources as google/facebook - then it's ok. Not user-friendly but not abusive.

Only if:
1: you communicate all of this explicitly with an up-to-date accurate privacy policy (none of these details are explained properly in the privacy policy)
And
2: if you trust google. Most of us do not trust google but they are your trusted partners...so GOG by association can't be trusted.
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Clownski_: […] When you give us consent for direct marketing communications, we will use the services of our Trusted Partners to allow for direct, online communications through third-party services […]
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lupineshadow: If the email address is truly hashed and anonymised and no other coincidental linked data is sent to google/facebook at the same time (such as user agent, screen resolution) which can absolutely be used to fingerprint users when you have the reach and resources as google/facebook - then it's ok. Not user-friendly but not abusive.
I wouldn't count on that "hashed" or "anonymity". Especially if one have the same Email Address for GOG and Google:

About the customer matching process
How it works

You create a customer data file based on information shared by your customers.

To keep your data secure, you can hash your customer data yourself using the SHA256 algorithm, or Google Ads will hash the data for you using the same SHA256 algorithm, which is the industry standard for one-way hashing
Google even have this hashed value of the Google user's email address recorded. They did said so:
Email address and phone matching

Google keeps track of the email addresses and phone numbers for Google accounts and the corresponding hashed strings for those email addresses or phone numbers.

After you've uploaded your customer list of email addresses and/or phone numbers, Google Ads will compare each hashed string on your customer list with the hashed string for email address or phone number of Google accounts. If there's a match, Google adds the corresponding Google account to your Customer Match segments (Customer list).
And sure enough, they have their guarantees:
Limited data use. We won’t use your data files for any purpose other than to create your Customer Match audiences and ensure compliance with our policies. We won’t use your data files to build or enhance profiles of your customers.
Limited data access. We won’t share your data files with other Google teams other than to create your Customer Match audiences and ensure compliance with our policies. We use employee access controls to protect your data files from unauthorized access.
Limited data sharing. We won’t share your data files with any third party, including other advertisers. Google may share this data to meet any applicable law, regulation, legal process or enforceable governmental request.
Limited data retention. We won’t retain your data files for any longer than necessary to create your Customer Match audiences and ensure compliance with our policies. Once those processes are complete, we'll promptly delete the data files you uploaded via the Google Ads interface or the API.
…followed by:
[…] As with other Google advertising products, we may use information derived from impressions or clicks on Customer Match ads to improve Google Ads and other Google products and services.
Note: About the 'Limited data retention.', the data files they mention that they would delete will be the user's Email Address to be handed by GOG in this case, not the 'Customer Match data' that will be created by the whole process.

There's also one for Facebook, but I couldn't be bothered skimming.

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lupineshadow: 2: if you trust google. Most of us do not trust google but they are your trusted partners...so GOG by association can't be trusted.
"Trusted Partners" in this context is more of an "assurance" to the users in their wording.
Not that they trust them or anything. (nor it was reassuring)
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lupineshadow: If the email address is truly hashed and anonymised and no other coincidental linked data is sent to google/facebook at the same time (such as user agent, screen resolution) which can absolutely be used to fingerprint users when you have the reach and resources as google/facebook - then it's ok. Not user-friendly but not abusive.
It does not matter that it is hashed. The hash is unique to you and is based on public data that is already known to both companies (your email address). Therefore, whenever they process your email address, the hash will match it and anonymisation is broken.

It's more of a loophole than a genuine form of anonymisation.

And as for advanced fingerprinting, it is unnecessary if Google/Facebook already know exactly who you are based on what I just described.
Post edited August 31, 2023 by lightwo_owo
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Clownski_: Hey everyone, I wanted to chime in here and share our perspective on the matter. When you give us consent for direct marketing communications, we will use the services of our Trusted Partners to allow for direct, online communications through third-party services - it is a common practise, but we wanted to be as upfront and transparent about it as possible, hence the notice visible on the screenshot. Of course, you can revoke your consent at any time by unchecking the “Marketing communications'' checkbox in your account settings. So, in context of giveaways, you can claim one and then immediately revoke your consent if you do not want to receive a more personalized GOG ads.
I'm sorry, but silently switching an option based on a hard-to-notice change of wording on the redemption segment is the exact opposite of upfront and transparent.

At least if you announced that in some way or made it clearer on the redemption segment, I would be satisfied with the response, but this is still disappointing.

About "immediately revoking consent", anyone who is unaware will never get the chance to do it. It feels like malicious and deceptive design.
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Clownski_: Hey everyone, I wanted to chime in here and share our perspective on the matter. When you give us consent for direct marketing communications, we will use the services of our Trusted Partners to allow for direct, online communications through third-party services - it is a common practise, but we wanted to be as upfront and transparent about it as possible, hence the notice visible on the screenshot. Of course, you can revoke your consent at any time by unchecking the “Marketing communications'' checkbox in your account settings. So, in context of giveaways, you can claim one and then immediately revoke your consent if you do not want to receive a more personalized GOG ads.
*grimace* Corporate copy/paste responses (meaning another blue on reddit posted exactly the same text as this). I get you need to be consistent with your official responses, but this doesn't placate my unease in this situation. Try to personalise posts at least a little, guys.
Post edited November 27, 2023 by Braggadar