Posted May 04, 2021
AB2012: Aside from the fact you've probably already figured out it won't work at all for offline installers, the truth is it also regularly doesn't really work well for Steam either. The number of times I've read a snarky comment on a Steam review like "But you've only played this 5 minutes!" in response to a review where the person obviously has a great deal of knowledge about the game but was running in offline mode shows that even many people on Steam can't wrap their head around how unreliable it is. The reverse is also true - anyone can fake 40hrs "gameplay" in any game just by starting it on a Friday evening and leaving it idling on the main menu in the background over the weekend. What's being "counted" isn't play-time at all but merely .exe run-time.
The only truly reliable game time tracking is internal, ie, games like Dragon Age Origins or Stardew Valley with "hours played" actually recorded by the game itself into the save fie. But even then deleting that save file and starting fresh will reset the counter. For older games it makes even less sense where someone could have something like "Doom 2, 5hrs played" on their GOG / Steam profile after recently re-buying it on GOG but literally thousands of hours of game play on the disc version they also own and have been playing for 28 years, what counts most really in terms of experience / knowledge of the game?...
I'd imagine most people playing games on Steam would just normally play it instead of going offline, or w/o DRM, leaving the game AFK overnight, etc... Of course I don't have the numbers, but neither do you. But do you honestly think most people do not just play their Steam games just directly through steam? The only truly reliable game time tracking is internal, ie, games like Dragon Age Origins or Stardew Valley with "hours played" actually recorded by the game itself into the save fie. But even then deleting that save file and starting fresh will reset the counter. For older games it makes even less sense where someone could have something like "Doom 2, 5hrs played" on their GOG / Steam profile after recently re-buying it on GOG but literally thousands of hours of game play on the disc version they also own and have been playing for 28 years, what counts most really in terms of experience / knowledge of the game?...
In my experience of reading the reviews (yes, I actually read the reviews), if the review is well constructed with little to no spelling, syntax and grammatical errors, if they do have show a very low amount of hours in the game, they will be upfront with the reasons why. By the same token, if someone has hundreds to thousands of hours in a game but 1 or 2 sentence in their review, I don't take it seriously and it's probably a 'joke' review.
Just because a reviewer's game time may not be reliable doesn't necessarily mean its not useful. When used in conjunction with reading a review, I find it helpful. Not all steam reviews are reliable either; do you advocate getting rid of all steam reviews just because it isn't perfect as well? i hope not.
Compatibility of the game matters; especially if its an older title. I need to know does this game run on W10? If so are there any issues I should be aware of. Has the gameplay mechanics held up after 28 years??
For a game that is 28 years old, these are the questions that matter to me, not some guy that has thousands of hours into a disc version of a game they play on their specially made DOS PC.
Sure if they bought a GoG version later w/only a couple hours and the review states everything checks out good, that's great but you are giving very specific examples which are more exceptions than the rule.
AB2012: True but this is highly variable and works both ways. Eg, there are some games here that are very clunky without any "nostalgia hook / muscle memory" of originally awkward controls that newcomers to the game will find off-putting and "nostalgia scores" somewhat inflated. The reverse is also true though. A brand new "verified" review from someone complaining about how clunky Doom's controls are for running the original .exe in DOSBox isn't particularly helpful either when many people will be running it via GZDoom with far better controls that neither GOG nor Steam package it like. And the WAD files are identical for all platforms going back to 28 year old discs.
Likewise, what do we do with early GOG reviews like "cutscenes don't work, game doesn't work" on early reviews of Thief here on GOG that were made long before they started integrating the community TFix patch that fixed all the issues? The difference between the GOG version without it vs the newer GOG version with it is far greater than the new GOG version + TFix vs an old disc version running the same TFix. It's often people with 20 years of of experience of a game that know the most about this stuff or where to find widescreen / unofficial patches / source ports that GOG haven't included that create the most helpful reviews than someone who just bought the game blind and hasn't a clue about this stuff, regardless of which store it was bought from.
Again, very specific examples. You don't need to be an expert in Doom to find out how to configure it properly; most if not all of the pertinent info is already catalogued at pcgamingwiki. Likewise, what do we do with early GOG reviews like "cutscenes don't work, game doesn't work" on early reviews of Thief here on GOG that were made long before they started integrating the community TFix patch that fixed all the issues? The difference between the GOG version without it vs the newer GOG version with it is far greater than the new GOG version + TFix vs an old disc version running the same TFix. It's often people with 20 years of of experience of a game that know the most about this stuff or where to find widescreen / unofficial patches / source ports that GOG haven't included that create the most helpful reviews than someone who just bought the game blind and hasn't a clue about this stuff, regardless of which store it was bought from.
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if not you can ask on the forums.
A game is competing for my time; my time isn't infinite and it doesn't care when a game was made. I'd trust someone's review that isn't tainted by nostalgia. I played Deux Ex when it came out and I thought it was the best game ever. Could I recommend the game now to people that never played it?? No, I can't because it was 20 years ago. I could only offer that I enjoyed the game immensely when it was released. I would have to play the game again or recently in the past to see whether or not the gameplay mechanics, user interface, feels outdated.
Early reviews are fine as is because that's what the dates are for. I usually always sort my reviews by most recent 1st.
Post edited May 04, 2021 by jjyiz28