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Posted January 27, 2020
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JoeSapphire: and the you go and publicly state what you're voting???
Sorry, my mistake. But I nominated you and was voicing my support for this government, I thought it's obvious.

To be honest I'm thinking now, what the heck; let this thing play out.
Posted January 27, 2020
RW and yet I'm merely uncomfortable and answering ZFRs objections, not opposing.

I guess the only way I see not shoot at Joe in that case is if ZFR is also F, as that would deprive the Fs of two players.

because when it comes down to it, the next pres can also shoot (F) and one less F vote is one less thing to worry about. also--shooting Joe confirms two players at once, if he turns up lib (everything he said can be taken as truth), or locks out GR if Joe's F.

Unless you know who H is, which I think is not likely. far better chance of getting one confirmed L (alive or ded) via execution of Joe if he drops F
UNLESS (wifom time) ZFR lied and dropped the L in order to frame and L!Joe--which still confirms GR as L in this case.

If ZFR is Lib, I see no downside to shooting joe if joe drops L, and no gain for the F's if ZFR lied to claim Joe dropped and Joe is L as this confirms GR.
Posted January 27, 2020
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Microfish_1: RW and yet I'm merely uncomfortable and answering ZFRs objections, not opposing.

I guess the only way I see not shoot at Joe in that case is if ZFR is also F, as that would deprive the Fs of two players.

because when it comes down to it, the next pres can also shoot (F) and one less F vote is one less thing to worry about. also--shooting Joe confirms two players at once, if he turns up lib (everything he said can be taken as truth), or locks out GR if Joe's F.

Unless you know who H is, which I think is not likely. far better chance of getting one confirmed L (alive or ded) via execution of Joe if he drops F
UNLESS (wifom time) ZFR lied and dropped the L in order to frame and L!Joe--which still confirms GR as L in this case.

If ZFR is Lib, I see no downside to shooting joe if joe drops L, and no gain for the F's if ZFR lied to claim Joe dropped and Joe is L as this confirms GR.
Sadly, one doesn't get that player's alignment on execution unless he was Hitler and the game ends.
Posted January 27, 2020
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Microfish_1: @ZFRWho do you shoot if you draw 3F?
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ZFR: I haven't thought about it.

If I get FFL and Joe passed F, probably Joe. If FFF, I'm not sure.
If you draw FFF it means that probably one of the previous presidents lied about drawing FFF. So you might kill one of them. Or Scene. But probably that scenario won't arise and we will either get an L or you will know whom to kill because Joe misbehaved.

It's too bad that we don't get flips in this game after a kill. Otherwise I would say go for Joe even if you draw FFF. Since he cleared GR, checking his alignment would tell us something about GR as well if we would get a full flip. But in this game we only get H or non-H upon a kill.

Which actually would make it very elegant play on your part, if you are F or H, to claim that you gave Joe a choice and then kill him. So, if the kill scenario arises, please don't kill too fast. Wait for discussion first before announcing your target. Even if Joe passes F after you gave him FL.
Posted January 28, 2020
oh. I didn't recall that. My apologies . >:(
Posted January 28, 2020
anyone else got opinions on why zfr should kill joe? Would none of you miss me?

vultures, the lot of you!
Posted January 28, 2020
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JoeSapphire: anyone else got opinions on why zfr should kill joe? Would none of you miss me?

vultures, the lot of you!
If he passes you an L and a Fascist policy gets enacted, are you arguing with the wisdom in him killing you?
That is as far as I've gone talking about it.

If he draws 3F, it's not as simple.
Posted January 28, 2020
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RWarehall: Given his confirmation...I nominate GameRager to get the game moving
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RedFireGaming: By the way, are you going to investigate ZFR or Joe?
Would you please return to the game? Maybe you're against this government and maybe you don't know how to argue against it without giving yourself away. But stalling isn't fair play, if that is what you are doing. In any case your last post was 2 days ago.
Posted January 28, 2020
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RedFireGaming: By the way, are you going to investigate ZFR or Joe?
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Lifthrasil: Would you please return to the game? Maybe you're against this government and maybe you don't know how to argue against it without giving yourself away. But stalling isn't fair play, if that is what you are doing. In any case your last post was 2 days ago.
Sorry. I was trying to read through posts to get an idea on which way to vote. I've had two colds in as many weeks, and it's been difficult to understand what's been going on in this game.
Posted January 28, 2020
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RedFireGaming: Sorry. I was trying to read through posts to get an idea on which way to vote. I've had two colds in as many weeks, and it's been difficult to understand what's been going on in this game.
But please note this...
If you vote No for this government, that is a YES vote for either a Lift or Micro led government. And if that person is a Fascist, undoubtedly they will select Hitler as Chancellor.

So a No vote also needs a better plan...
Posted January 28, 2020
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JoeSapphire: anyone else got opinions on why zfr should kill joe? Would none of you miss me?

vultures, the lot of you!
First we stopped listening to you....now we want to keel u. o.0

Don't look shocked...it IS the logical progression, after all....everyone shoots Joe. ;D
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RedFireGaming: Sorry. I was trying to read through posts to get an idea on which way to vote. I've had two colds in as many weeks, and it's been difficult to understand what's been going on in this game.
That sucks if you are sick....I was moderately ill a short while back, myself. As such I hope you will feel better soon. :)

Also as to your vote: If you are unsure then vote no so at least we can continue on(if no one else removed their vote and needs to re vote, that is) with the game and then you can catch up until you are next needed to vote/etc again.
Posted January 28, 2020
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RWarehall: But please note this...
If you vote No for this government, that is a YES vote for either a Lift or Micro led government.
You've said this before and I meant to pull you up on it and it isn't. We can top deck to another tested player

No way is an untested player being President

If Joe is Lib he should be lobbying for a top deck to Rager

@Joe why aren't you lobbying for a top deck to Rager?
Posted January 28, 2020
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RWarehall: But please note this...
If you vote No for this government, that is a YES vote for either a Lift or Micro led government.
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supplementscene: You've said this before and I meant to pull you up on it and it isn't. We can top deck to another tested player

No way is an untested player being President

If Joe is Lib he should be lobbying for a top deck to Rager

@Joe why aren't you lobbying for a top deck to Rager?
Um...are you crazy?
ZFR, Lift, Micro - random draw
ZFR, RFG, Scene - random draw can be at 5F and if GameRager picks a bad partner, not just Hitler we lose?
Not to mention what happens if someone dropped an L and the last L is stuck at the end of the deck?

All this, while you accused me of being a Fascist because you thought I picked GameRager? Who could have been picked for this Special Election but now we need to top deck? And you preferred ZFR as your choice but now disagree? Or do you complain no matter what decisions are made?
Posted January 28, 2020
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RWarehall: Or do you complain no matter what decisions are made?
The problem is his preferred style of play(meta) is working against him and making him look bad to others....even if it makes sense to him or does actually make some amount of sense sometimes it's still not a good style of play for this sort of SH game, imo(though I could obv. be a bit wrong, this being my first "rodeo" and all), and we all chose not to play that way yet he chose to play that way anyways & is seemingly judging everyone else's actions based on a style no one else seems to be playing by.

Dunno if that makes sense/if I said it right....hopefully I did.
Posted January 28, 2020
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RWarehall: Or do you complain no matter what decisions are made?
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GameRager: The problem is his preferred style of play(meta) is working against him and making him look bad to others....even if it makes sense to him or does actually make some amount of sense sometimes it's still not a good style of play for this sort of SH game, imo(though I could obv. be a bit wrong, this being my first "rodeo" and all), and we all chose not to play that way yet he chose to play that way anyways & is seemingly judging everyone else's actions based on a style no one else seems to be playing by.

Dunno if that makes sense/if I said it right....hopefully I did.
It's not just that. A few days ago he complained when he thought I chose you as President for this Special Election. Now, instead of just selecting you, he's suggesting we should top deck to you drawing 2 random cards from a very Fascist heavy deck. And back then he was saying that ZFR should be the President for this Special Election which he is now against.
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