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supplementscene: Because if he investigates ZFR you and Rager get to continue your government and there's a decent chance you find a Liberal card.

ZFR likely plays the hand after yours regardless

Consider the possibility of a fascist Joe locking a Liberal out of government. That's not stopping his fascist partner from playing but it is increasing the odds you pick 1 of his fascist buddies into government. That's sub optimal play
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RWarehall: And I am considering the possibility Joe is Fascist...
We learn nothing from him investigating ZFR because we will still be stuck wondering if he's covering for Hitler, or has honestly investigated.

If he investigates GameRager or I, and determines that person is Liberal, that result can be trusted outside of a strange scenario where both teams have Fascists yet still somehow passed 4L to start the game.

And if he claims Fascist, we know for a fact, either Joe or the person investigated is truly a Fascist and make sure those players do not ever become Chancellor.

Optimum play to me is gaining helpful knowledge instead of wasting abilities. Joe investigating ZFR only tells Joe something.
If you and Rager are both Liberal and get a Liberal policy in the next hand we win. If your frozen because your investigated fascist what do you suggest the next play is? Because I think there are probably 2 fascist in Lift, Redfire and Microfish. So they play, play another fascist policy and we're in Hitler zone, with a fascist choosing the special election

For the record the table should agree a special election anyway.
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supplementscene: If you and Rager are both Liberal and get a Liberal policy in the next hand we win.
And if they're not liberal? In that case we *do* want a conflict with Joe.

As RW said, conflicts are *good*. When an investigator claims a "liberal" result we don't get much knowledge.
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supplementscene: If you and Rager are both Liberal and get a Liberal policy in the next hand we win.
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ZFR: And if they're not liberal? In that case we *do* want a conflict with Joe.

As RW said, conflicts are *good*. When an investigator claims a "liberal" result we don't get much knowledge.
If they claim 3 fascist policies either you or me gets SE.There will be a soft conflict then with 1 of either Joe or Warehall very likely droppers
Well, alright.

I only asked to see what people had to say, and I was planning to go with ZFR all along, but actually I see the merit in investigating GameRager so

Investigate GameRager

Sorry for the delay
Conf incoming

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JoeSapphire: Well, alright.

I only asked to see what people had to say, and I was planning to go with ZFR all along, but actually I see the merit in investigating GameRager so

Investigate GameRager

Sorry for the delay
You might want to PM Pooka
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JoeSapphire: Well, alright.

I only asked to see what people had to say, and I was planning to go with ZFR all along, but actually I see the merit in investigating GameRager so

Investigate GameRager

Sorry for the delay
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Speak of one of the "devils" o.0

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supplementscene: Conf incoming
Confirmation?

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supplementscene: You might want to PM Pooka
I believe Pooka wants such posted to the thread to count(only votes via PM), but it would help Pooka/OP know we've made progress in the game so we can get moving. :)
President JoeSapphire has investigated GameRager!

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RWarehall: ...
President RWarehall must now nominate a chancellor.
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PookaMustard: President JoeSapphire has investigated GameRager!

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RWarehall: ...
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PookaMustard: President RWarehall must now nominate a chancellor.
I think Joe needs to announce his claim first.
Gamerager's liberal.

RW is pretty sure in my mind.

ZFR I fairly trust.

I think we got this guys.

Now YOU KNOW I don't like to bring this up, but we really should have listened to Joe in the first place.
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JoeSapphire: Gamerager's liberal.

RW is pretty sure in my mind.

ZFR I fairly trust.
What about the others? Just curious

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JoeSapphire: I think we got this guys.
Hopefully :)

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JoeSapphire: Now YOU KNOW I don't like to bring this up, but we really should have listened to Joe in the first place.
I listen to no one but myself, and also whomever brings me something to eat....i'm still hungry.....i've been forced to eat from the VENDING MACHINES. o.0
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JoeSapphire: Gamerager's liberal.

RW is pretty sure in my mind.

ZFR I fairly trust.
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GameRager: What about the others? Just curious
Lift's Fascist I reckon. The others are... bored?
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JoeSapphire: Lift's Fascist I reckon. The others are... bored?
You might be right, but then again he could be as liberal as I am.

As for the others.....I meant do you find them lib or fas....but if you have no opinion on them that's fine.
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JoeSapphire: Gamerager's liberal.
Confirms RW I think.
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ZFR: Confirms RW I think.
How so?
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ZFR: Confirms RW I think.
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GameRager: How so?
He can't be H - wouldn't want to draw investigation to himself.
He can't be regular F. Wouldn't have brought it to 3-0. If he got LLF, he would have passed you LL.

Ergo, liberal.

I can see a few scenarios in which he's Fascist, but they all seem far-fetched. Very gutsy WIFOM with asking for an investigation. A Joe-RW team. I don't see any of those as likely.