Posted January 14, 2019
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flubbucket
"Intoning"
Registered: Dec 2012
From Micronesia
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trentonlf
Easily amused
Registered: Apr 2014
From United States
Posted January 14, 2019
![Lifthrasil](https://images.gog.com/e2259851c6e86609b166b01345176fdc7b1fed6147789a7fb8042dc24095c8da_forum_avatar.jpg)
Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted January 14, 2019
Why flub? Sure, his 'I am Hitler' was formulated as a joke. But knowing Flubb, he might very well make exactly such a joke if he really were Hitler. Plus his question to Scene, asking for clarification on a point (why vote NO) which Scene had already elaborated on in a quite verbose fashion, shows that flubb didn't really read the thread. Or at least didn't pay attention. To me, that question looked like fake activity. Flubb saw a chance to appear inquisitive with minimal effort.
In conclusion, while I didn't agree with scene's reasoning for voting NO on the first government, flubb's question was strange and I don't trust him right now.
blotunga: I would pick Lift as a chancellor. If your government gets voted, you can test him, if you guys ennact a L, we can skip both SirPrimalForm and Agentcarr's government and put up Lift for president. Who can safely choose Joe as chancellor because even if he is Hitler he has to enact a L. That would either bring us 3-0 or find out a lot. I like this plan much more than flubb as Chancellor! (or, really, anyone else but flubb, at the moment)
In conclusion, while I didn't agree with scene's reasoning for voting NO on the first government, flubb's question was strange and I don't trust him right now.
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blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
Registered: Apr 2012
From Other
Posted January 14, 2019
Of course my plan might have a slight flaw if trent is scum and he passes 2 F to Lift. Then goes on saying that he passed LF and that lift is scum.
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted January 14, 2019
If that happens, we have to re-evaluate. In any case such a conflict would make both trent and me suspicious and make it safer play to exclude us from future governments for the time being. Because if such a conflict happens, where two players disagree about which cards were passed, one of them usually is a fascist. But that's the point of testing players. Not only the chancellor is tested, but the president as well.
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted January 14, 2019
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blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
Registered: Apr 2012
From Other
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rtcvb32
echo e.lolfiu_fefiipieue|tr valueof_pi [0-9]
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted January 14, 2019
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Not saying impossible, I'm saying it's highly unlikely.
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Lifthrasil
Bring the GOG-Downloader back!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Germany
Posted January 14, 2019
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There is something to that. Yes. It basically boils down to the question: do you believe ZFR that he did use random.org? Or do you assume that he used his well known random.org addiction as cover to maneuver Joe into a position where he could 'prove' himself as 'Liberal'?
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rtcvb32
echo e.lolfiu_fefiipieue|tr valueof_pi [0-9]
Registered: Aug 2013
From United States
Posted January 14, 2019
If this site had a [dice] feature, you could roll a dice, then use that. But otherwise you have to take him at his word. Random and selected have the same odds of being chosen.
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blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
Registered: Apr 2012
From Other
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
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flubbucket
"Intoning"
Registered: Dec 2012
From Micronesia
Posted January 14, 2019
Or somebody.......anybody......choo choo choose.
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blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
Registered: Apr 2012
From Other
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blotunga
GrumpyOldGamers.CyringOutMiserably
Registered: Apr 2012
From Other
Posted January 15, 2019
So, trent, do we get an official nomination?