(we're allowed to talk, yes?)

If so, then very much this^^^!!!! dedo, please don't try any fancy moves about "testing" scene. Just get those 2 liberal policies home and we're done.

I agree. A secure 4-0 would be SO much more valuable than a confirmed Scene or a President/Chancellor conflict between the two of you.

Too many Yes votes... Kinda worrying but let's see what happens.

The Puzzlemaster is busy drawing stick figures in one of Adalia's ledgers while he's not looking, trying to see how many he can get in before somebody notices. He snickers to himself as one of the zeros turns into the head of a grotesque caricature of Wyrm. The amusement tickles him so much that he doesn't even notice as Captain Dedo and Mr. Scene stand up.
"Well," begins Scene, "after extensive discussion with the captain, we have come to the conclusion that-"
He abruptly stops his speech as he notices the attention of the entire room is focused on the oblivious Puzzlemaster, still doodling.
Suddenly, Dedo draws a cutlass from his side, leans over, and stabs the book, pinning it to the table.
"Listen, palhaço! After sailing the seven seas, you have any idea what I've seen out there? World's a dangerous place. You gotta be paying attention. The bilge rats out there will get the better of you. Scene knows it, too. We've decided that you're wrong, we can't pretend like we're all gonna play nice. We gotta move. Take control of this alien piece of lixo. You really trust all these governments to do the right thing? Really?"
The Puzzlemaster, realizing that he's losing the influence he gained from purely shouting, stands up and returns to the default which has served him well until now.
"VE VILL ASK ZE QUESTIONS!"
"It's not questions we want," Scene explains, "it's answers. We've decided that there's something fishy going on."
"And I'm going to investigate it," says Dedo.
"WHAT IS ZE MEANING OF ZIS?!"
"Well," pipes up Wyrm, "it would seem that...

The government has passed a fascist policy."

"Jawohl, Strudel! NOW BRING US ANOTHER BOOK!"

A fascist policy has been passed.
The current president (dedoporno) must investigate the alignment of another player.

OK. The fascist policy is unfortunate, but not the end of the world. The big question is now: whose fault is it?

So, dedo: what did you draw?
And Scene: what did dedo give you?

And dedo: I would still suggest that you investigate Brasas. Then we'll take it from there and see what the reported investigation result means.

So I received 2 Fascist Cards and it looks like my run as Chancellor is now over as a result. This is the scenario I expected with ZFR and RWarehall but I thought Dedo was my best bet.

Probabilities for crowd discussion:

1. 3 Fascist policies - 36% - low probability but possible
2. Scene is fascist, Dedo is Lib
3. Scene is Lib, Dedo is Fascist

The probable fascist RWarehall predicted a fascist policy would pass. He predicted as if he knew. I thought he or ZFR would be the one to take me out. Don't let RWarehall near the Presidency or Chancelorship.

The next round will shed some light on how likely scenario 1 was. It is vital we get a Liberal President to look at next rounds cards. If we don't there won't be any useful analysis for Liberals.

These are all good points, I thought I'd found a Fascist ring, but if I had they would have been playing with ineffective tactics as you point out.

4. Both Scene and dedo are fascists.

Scene, if you have tricked us and it turns out that you are fascist, you are the biggest furking bluffer ever.

EDIT (not a real one) So who to investigate, well it needs to be one of the next 3 presidents and someone we seem likely to be Liberal. The problem is if Dedo is legit in his answers or if he is planning to take out Liberal HQ, who knows.

Indeed 4 should be there too and I meant to put it. If I am Fascist my accusations are either wrong or I've been using them as a distancing mechanism as Lift pointed out.

Like I said the most important part of analysing this is getting a Liberal President in next because only then do we know for sure what cards are been drawn.

It will also be interesting to see what Dedo posts. He could say he passed a F and L card to me.

Still I recommend all Liberals to read my analysis of RWarehall above, I think he's a cert to be scum, maybe more so than ZFR

It's my fault. It was 3 fascist policies and for better or for worse Scene didn't have a choice.


I guess the investigation has to be the silver lining (if people trust the result, of course). I still like the idea of going for one of the next presidents.

How does everyone feel about Brasas being investigated?

We definitely need a vote on who to investigate imo

Well I was expecting a confrontation but this doesn't really show muc h

So this confirms the following to Liberals:

1. If Dedo is F and I am L, he could discard L policy and
2. If Dedo is F and I am F, anything could happen and we would both pass fascist policy
3. If Dedo is L and I and F, he would tell the truth and I wouldn't be tested.
4. If Dedo is L and I am L, we both tell the truth but it is only 66% chance of being true.

Conclusion Libs can not trust Dedo or me right now.

Perhaps the next vote changes that with a President who can coroborate Dedo's series of events

Either is fine.

Also, whichever of these 2 gets chosen for president PLEASE CHOOSE GREEK AS YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT AND NOT LIFT. If you chose Lift he gets term-locked and won't be able to be chosen by greek.

Going to post more once I'm back home. *If* what dedo says is true we should still be good 2L policies left in next batch then it's smooth sailing.

I second this. There is no good way of knowing if I'm telling the truth and if Scene is a fascist he just got the best deal out of the bargain bin.

Unfortunate but not unexpected. Even more so because the agreement between the two parties means we have no idea if they are in cahoots, one is fascist or both are liberal.

The question with the investigation is do we want to out a fascist or find a liberal?
Obviously you've also got to temper that with whether you trust dedo or not.
I think finding a liberal is actually more useful, as it means they can also be used as chancellors (particularly now that scene's alignment is in doubt) whereas outing a fascist only tells us who to avoid.
I'd suggest dedo investigates me and proves my liberal alignment so I could be the next president before we get back to greek, but I'm not sure I can trust him and he may well call me a fascist, in which case we'd probably have to vote in Brasas as president (who I suspect is a fascist...).

Can anyone give me the odds of there actually being a liberal policy for the next government?
Assuming dedo told the truth and the second case where he is lying and discarded a liberal policy.