Posted April 22, 2018
Brasas: Fair. But my main problem with you is that you find ZFR play in any way towny. Some effort posts are not that hard for scum to fake... in other games you've done it, I've done it... and ZFR is also our type.
Ok, so let me get this straight... Pointing out misconceptions about outcomes like in 257 are somehow not towny?
Oh wait, you explain it, by hand-waving it away with "it's easy to appear town"
If it's so easy, why haven't you done it? Why haven't you actually contributed anything valuable?
How is any of this consistent with his play being "in no way towny".
Talk about gross mischaracterization...
But let's deep analyze some of ZFR's early posts...
Post 49 is interesting...suggesting we blindly vote yes to the first government so that we don't end up with Mafia day 1. A government which votes in a liberal policy. But maybe he's doing it for a scum buddy right? Probably not Scene, and Greek is as confirmed as can be.
Posts 53 and 55 shows he is paying attention to the game. That tends to lean liberal as well because it's usually Mafia who don't have to think as much.
Post 109 seems pretty informative too.
And on it goes...ZFR sure looks to be trying to be helpful as I ISO him...
Yes, he plays devil's advocate a bit too much at times, he voted "No" to his own government which seems an odd choice, but beyond that, I found his insights helpful.
That's why I question you, Brasas, with your insistence that his posts are "in no way towny". Because as I see it, you are the one out to lunch.
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But ok, so your "plan" was that we would all automatically vote for the 3rd government...
You dodged the question...how do we learn ANYTHING from that? Everyone votes "No" twice, then "Yes" and then Step 2 where we now instantly know who the scum are? How about fill in the blank on how this actually works?
Because what would really happen if that became a strategy is we would be stuck in useless Day 1 Mafia discussion for two entire governments, debating nothing because we have no information. Not even debating what government to pass since we are all just supposed to agree to automatically vote in the third. And even the third becomes a "no-brainer" where all of that discussion tells us nothing either. So 3 game days of Day 1 Mafia discussion, ugh...
Sorry, but this whole philosophy of yours doesn't seem to work.
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My plan, is to vote in favor of the governments which seem to have the most chance of voting in a liberal policy. ZFR has provided insight. Those with a track record have shown good inclination (we are up 3-0). So I've been voting "Yes" to those seemingly helping our cause, and if something goes wrong, guess I've left them some rope to hang themselves too.