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Lifthrasil: Yes, all votes have to be given and have to be considered, since all votes will be revealed and it can give us information to look at who voted what. In that way fascists cannot hide behind 'accidentally' not voting due to RL delays.
I second this - that rationale should be quite obvious and zeo's rules quite explicitly stated that all votes need to be sent to mirror the RL simultaneous vote.
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ZFR: This fellow Brasas also stood out in the sense that he provided no explanation of his reaction whatsoever, other than the usual "I vote NO".
heh

I think I covered it when I replied to cristi and... dedo was it?

Let me put it this way. It's always interesting to see who asks.
It's also interesting to see who changes approach after answers are given.

In other words, I'm a bit of a cocktease... :P
So, not sure if the approach is defined, but votecount please?

I assume Cristi is pending, but curious if anyone else.
To whoever it was earlier that asked - in my experience Cristi does tend to be quiet early on. She ramps up participation usually. Other regulars can confirm (I mean RW, Dedo, Lift - ZFR maybe)

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dedoporno: Regarding the vote I can't really understand the voting "no" without a good reason to do so. I'd rather have a government that makes a conscious choice on what policy they pass (even if it's a fascist one) rather than go the 3 failures road and leave it to chance in which case a fascist policy is currently more likely to pass.
Taking the opportunity as on reread I noticed this and find it bordering on straw manning and throwing shade at me...

1 - different meta approaches can be disagreed on but I find it hard to believe you really can't understand the information gathering / analysis rationale.
It's similar to calling for participation and the presumption that votes should be Yes is to me akin to being lurker friendly. Because with these rules unlike regular Mafia we don't get flips every Day. The votes on governments are the pseudo flips, and the more we get the better. I don't see that as being that strange of a logic to grok, and find it hard to attribute resistance (pun intended) to anything other than ingrained groupthink or intentional FUD.

2 - no one has said they are fine going the 3 failures road. What I said (and despite your not mentioning me, I was the only one anywhere near a position like that - which is why this is pinging me), what I said was 2 failures and then carte blanche. And even that will quickly become conditional on the seating order.
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supplementscene: Because my conclusion from your objection to the Chancelorship was that it would be a strategy Hitler himself would pick. Hitler can't appear to be fascist so if he is a Chancelor early he must vote for Liberal policy. This hurts the fascist cause so Hitler's best cause of action is to state he doesn't want to be Chancelor for whatever reason.
I don't agree with this. It seems like Hitler's best interest to be elected Chancellor early and buy some liberal cred, so that players are willing to vote him Chacellor again after three Fascists policies. If three Fascists policies are on the board, are you more willing to vote for:
1. someone who has never been Chancellor?
2. someone who passed a liberal policy as Chancellor?

It's clear that my ability to check in once a day may not work in this setup. A single day in a mafia game can last a week or more. If y'all want to play faster, I will ask for a sub.
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cristigale: A single day in a mafia game can last a week or more. If y'all want to play faster, I will ask for a sub.
So far I see no issue, it is anyway going faster than I expected.

I think rather unusually the percentage of Americans playing is also low with only you, ZFR and RW. That might be contributing to your feeling a bit off. But try to hang on I say. :)
Yes, so far I don't see any reason for you to sub out, cristi. Just vote whenever you're here when a government has been proposed, then things should work out.

By the way, did you vote?

If so, @mods: who is missing?
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supplementscene: Because my conclusion from your objection to the Chancelorship was that it would be a strategy Hitler himself would pick. Hitler can't appear to be fascist so if he is a Chancelor early he must vote for Liberal policy. This hurts the fascist cause so Hitler's best cause of action is to state he doesn't want to be Chancelor for whatever reason.
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cristigale: I don't agree with this. It seems like Hitler's best interest to be elected Chancellor early and buy some liberal cred, so that players are willing to vote him Chacellor again after three Fascists policies. If three Fascists policies are on the board, are you more willing to vote for:
1. someone who has never been Chancellor?
2. someone who passed a liberal policy as Chancellor?

It's clear that my ability to check in once a day may not work in this setup. A single day in a mafia game can last a week or more. If y'all want to play faster, I will ask for a sub.
That sounds a reasonable strategy but an individual Hitler player may perhaps think differently

Sorry to make you feel rushed, once a day should be perfectly fine as long as you make sure you check whether there's a vote when you are online
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Brasas: Taking the opportunity as on reread I noticed this and find it bordering on straw manning and throwing shade at me...
I'm sorry if that came as a swing at you, it wasn't meant to be one. I was saying that I don't agree with this approach in general and won't be going for it myself, not that it is in any way condemning when others do it. I didn't mention your name exactly for that reason but now I'm getting a sense of "a guilty conscious needs no accuser" (this is mostly a joke, but the idiom did pop out in my mind :))
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Lifthrasil: Yes, so far I don't see any reason for you to sub out, cristi. Just vote whenever you're here when a government has been proposed, then things should work out.

By the way, did you vote?

If so, @mods: who is missing?
Looking at post #2, it indicates Kusu, Dedo, me and Cristi, but given that I sent in my vote last night when I got home from work, maybe the person really missing is our fearless leader as that was edited 18 hours ago.

As an aside, even as an "American" my schedule is a little out of whack from normal as I work evenings.
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RWarehall: Looking at post #2, it indicates Kusu, Dedo, me and Cristi, but given that I sent in my vote last night when I got home from work, maybe the person really missing is our fearless leader as that was edited 18 hours ago.
Yep, I checked my chat and my vote has been cast some 20 hours ago.
I sent my vote 18 hours ago.

Sorry, real life is busier than usual. While I have time to read (and boy, some of you like to write wall of text), I really lack time to write long thoughtful reply.

I vote yes for this government because I think we need a better "data", if you can call it that. The last failed voting didn't really tell us anything, some suspicion here and there, nothing conclusive. I got a feeling this game is never meant for liberal player to have a strong fact, only bias / most likely ones. And if we must rely on unreliable data, then I would prefer have more data than less.
The votes are in! The results are as follows.

1. The Greek (greeklover) - YES
2. Boss Kusu (kusumahendra) - YES
3. Mr. Scene (supplementscene) - YES
4. Basil the Lifter (lifthrasil) - YES
5. Bishop Bling (ZFR) - YES
6. Captain Dedo (dedoporno) - YES
7. General Warehall (RWarehall) - YES
8. The Count of Monte Cristigale (cristigale) - YES
9. Big Brass (Brasas) - NO
10. Chief Blotunga (blotunga) - YES

The government is approved!

https://i.imgur.com/usF8Tgz.jpg

The president and chancellor (supplementscene and RWarehall) are now bound to silence until a policy is passed.
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supplementscene: So Austrian Zeo, we seemingly have 7 posters online today. Now assuming they all voted is it worth us or yourself giving the rest a PM reminder to vote to speed up the game? Also if there's enough to get a government passed without all the votes is it worth considering those absentees to speed the game up?
1) Please do not PM other players during the game. At least, not about the game; if there is some outside issue, then I suppose we'll allow you to PM them.

Feel free to PM a mod to ask about status of voting or to ask a mod to poke people for voting. You can also poke people in the game thread to request they go ahead and vote, and you can ask a mod in the game thread about current status of voting.

2) All votes need to be submitted before everyone's vote is revealed (and the government passed or rejected).
Nice. Now let's see what policy Scene and RW enact.
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dedoporno: I'm sorry if that came as a swing at you, it wasn't meant to be one. ... I didn't mention your name exactly for that reason but now ... [dedo carefully skewers the fleshy earthworm in the hook, then with an adept swing throws the line into the water again]
Heh

I see you're still fishing. Not sure if you would fake something like that as Fascist... is that your style? ;)