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Posted April 19, 2021
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JakobFel: it was basically everything else that Fallout fans had been asking for.
Sure, and The Elder Scrolls Online was everything TES fans had been asking for... Seriously, you should review your concepts of "ask for", "fans" and"everything"
Posted April 19, 2021
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51nikopol: I am glad Cyberpunk was not a point and click adventure game!!!
Hmm, not yet...
Posted April 19, 2021
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I used the money from when I refunded my preorder towards games that don't have content locked behind online-activation schemes.

Bonus/Alternate: There is a greater-than-zero (albeit probably hopelessly slim) chance that they could update the game to remove the online-activation scheme and provide the content currently locked behind it to offline installer users.
Posted April 19, 2021
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richlind33: Does he have a refund option? lol

If he does, people better hope it's not as bad as the Mel Gibson Refund Option ;D
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dogwhelk: Cyberpunk 2077 is a piece of art, at least when you watch it like a movie.
You mean just like the intro to The Dark Knight Rises? ;)
Post edited April 19, 2021 by GamezRanker
Posted April 19, 2021
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It (hopefully) taught people that even the "best" companies are not your friends.


It also showed that a delay (or two, or three) does not guarantee a ZOMG game.
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JakobFel: I don't appreciate the OP jab at Fallout 76, considering how that game was also unfairly hated just like Cyberpunk, but here goes...

It's a phenomenal first-person RPG with an incredibly intriguing world, above top-notch writing, a great soundtrack, fun RPG mechanics and great quests with a metric crapton of future potential.

It's one of my favorite games of all time and, given time with more patches, DLCs and expansions, it may enter my top 3. Right now, it's top 10 due to the bugs, performance issues and the fact that I feel like it still has a lot more potential to be fulfilled but it's still a ridiculously incredible game that has been unfairly crapped on by people who have set unrealistically high expectations and/or people who just can't be satisfied no matter how hard a dev tries. It lived up to virtually all of the hype I had for it and where it missed the mark was in rather unimportant ways... I mean, I was hoping for RDR2-styled interactions with the random NPCs, as well as Bethesda-esque sandbox freedom in the side activities, but hey: that wasn't what I was actually expecting in the first place.

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Orkhepaj: so nothing, just as i expected
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JakobFel: You're correct, absolutely nothing. People hated on it on launch because it had a really buggy start and because it didn't have dialogue options (yep, I'm not kidding), despite the fact that it was basically everything else that Fallout fans had been asking for. Moreover, people were determined to crap on it before Bethesda even revealed any info on the game which just shows how absurd gamers can be nowadays... and Youtubers weren't any help there, with a certain few morons actively encouraging people to boycott it... simply because it wasn't Fallout 5.

I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea (though nowadays, there really aren't any more excuses for that if you enjoy the Fallout franchise) but it never once did anything to deserve the over-the-top vitriol it received. Funny thing is, the whiners stayed away and as a result, it has the friendliest online community I've ever experienced, bar none. While we were busy enjoying the game and its completely free updates, Youtubers and their hate mobs were drumming up drama about how "bad" the game is, how the cash shop is "unfair" (despite the fact that you can earn all of it through gameplay if you don't want to pay), how the completely optional subscription that gives some minor convenience buffs is "disgusting" and so forth. It's ridiculous. All BGS Austin has done since launch is relentlessly improve the game to the point where it literally encompasses everything that makes a Fallout game special, along with excellent online elements that can pretty much be ignored if you're not a fan of that... the literal only thing that's not available is modding and even that is still planned for the future.

But I digress, it's just prime proof that gamers can be some of the whiniest children these days. If a game isn't 100% what they wanted, in their own individual desires, it's complete crap to them which is just ridiculous. Anyways, I'm not gonna argue this with anyone because I don't want to derail this.. I just figured I'd weigh in, though. It's my favorite online game, after all.
I agree with you.

I've tried F76 out when it was beta or free weekend when it came out , it was total garbage, ran bad and was empty and boring. A year ago gave it a chance when it was very cheap at keysites around 5-10 euros. It is way better now . I still dont like some decisions they made but it is a good game to play with friends and isnt any worse than most mmo-s.
Most indie games cant even come close especially in content. And as you said every micro is optional.

What I see is the dumb part of humanity just likes to hate things. It doesn't matter why, it is enough for them someone labeled a thing to be hated, and they jump on the bandwagon and hate it even thou they have 0 experience about it. They yell : "We hate that!" and when I ask them why , they just reply "Just because" and void of any reasoning. They never questions why exactly or the things they heard is true or changed.
Posted April 19, 2021
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If I were to pour hours upon hours (counting in the hundreds) into games (let's say online), then complain about the AI and the "cheaters", while leaving negative reviews (meaning a few words thrown in a fit) and still not putting a stop to it, I would have to reconsider several things, attitude being the first.

If anyone is still willing to support Bethesda and their practices at this point in time, by all means go right ahead. This is not only about 76, nor just the Fallout franchise, one also has to take a closer look at The Elder Scrolls. Oblivion would be a good starting point.
Come to think of it, the world needs more of their drivel moving forward, we haven't had enough by now. With bated breath we await the arrival of their next "masterpieces" and maybe more quests in the vein of Kid in a Fridge. Also, radiant quests are what every RPG needs. Did I say RPG? Pardon me... I mean who needs some decent writing, freedom and role-playing elements in a RPG, fetch-go kill quests are far more entertaining.
And before I forget, we also need the games to be broken at launch, it seems to be working somehow.
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JakobFel: I don't appreciate the OP jab at Fallout 76, considering how that game was also unfairly hated just like Cyberpunk, but here goes...

It's a phenomenal first-person RPG with an incredibly intriguing world, above top-notch writing, a great soundtrack, fun RPG mechanics and great quests with a metric crapton of future potential.

It's one of my favorite games of all time and, given time with more patches, DLCs and expansions, it may enter my top 3. Right now, it's top 10 due to the bugs, performance issues and the fact that I feel like it still has a lot more potential to be fulfilled but it's still a ridiculously incredible game that has been unfairly crapped on by people who have set unrealistically high expectations and/or people who just can't be satisfied no matter how hard a dev tries. It lived up to virtually all of the hype I had for it and where it missed the mark was in rather unimportant ways... I mean, I was hoping for RDR2-styled interactions with the random NPCs, as well as Bethesda-esque sandbox freedom in the side activities, but hey: that wasn't what I was actually expecting in the first place.
Are you talking about cyberpunk here? I don’t know f76, but cyberpunk is garbage from the core up. It isn’t an RPG, you don’t play any role, just some faceless pre orchestrated nobody with a backstory which last 10mins. There are no skill mechanisms, most of the skills don’t do any thing, stealth does not work. It had so many bugs on release, was terribly optimised. I did not have any hype for it whatsoever, in fact I didn’t particularly like W3, however I was still staggered by how bad it was. The open world is nothing more than billboards moving in one direction, there is no AI at any point, hit boxes were so out of whack you can’t shoot anything. Not to mention the borderlands style looting, that’s so RPG that what with random loot. It’s by no means specifically designed with (well what the product was designed for) the microtransaction market in mind. And that is the key here, it was not designed as game, but a microtransaction platform. Why do you think GoG has been pushing galaxy, they want an online only microtransaction market, it’s where the big money is (think fortnite).

I mean this has been gone over in minuscule detail, detailed presentations on YouTube showing the problems, comparing it to its competitors. It’s been dropped from one of the largest stores, it’s investors are suing them. Not to mention the review buying, and the lying that went on. And then the locking of content behind online walls, dumping on preorder offline installer customers even though pirates managed to get the preorder.
I mean what does a game have to do to be out out your top 10? Quite frankly they get everything they deserve. Sure with several years patching and dlc, it might scrape into being a playable if below average first person action adventure. Me, the only happy part of the whole thing is getting my money back, a company that will never see another penny from me.
Seriously I can’t understand people defending this appalling product or display.
Posted April 19, 2021
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patrikc: If anyone is still willing to support Bethesda and their practices at this point in time, by all means go right ahead.
I do so sometimes...as I genuinely like some of their newer games(I even laugh at some of the bugs on YT videos and etc). Still, I dislike some of their business practices, so I try to not give them too much money(usually buying in deep sales or used).
Posted April 19, 2021
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By the way - do you guys think the Cyberpunk banner will ever disappear from the front page?
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Breja: By the way - do you guys think the Cyberpunk banner will ever disappear from the front page?
Not until their next big hit. Wild guess.
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Breja: By the way - do you guys think the Cyberpunk banner will ever disappear from the front page?
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patrikc: Not until their next big hit. Wild guess.
So, something like 5 years. Might as well get used to it I guess :D
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Breja: By the way - do you guys think the Cyberpunk banner will ever disappear from the front page?
sure it will in a few months
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Breja: So, something like 5 years. Might as well get used to it I guess :D
Seems about right. Although I have no idea if they are working on something now or bouncing any ideas. So, we might be looking at more than 5 years.
Posted April 19, 2021
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No other game has ever made me invest so emotionally into its characters as CP2077, in spite of the bugs it was an exceptional piece of storytelling.
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