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This is my favourite topic
Posted March 04, 2022
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Hi. I am from Russia.
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cyberfancom: спасибо gog за то, что помогает всем россиянам сделать правильный выбор. одно время я надеялся, что смогу отказаться от пиратства в пользу лицензий без drm, воодушевившись этим. но видя ситуацию в мире, что происходит с простыми россиянами (большинство из которых категорически против войны, вплоть до того, что хотят ее проиграть), я могу только поднять Веселый Роджер до конца жизни.

thanks to gog for helping all russians make the right choice. at one time i hoped i could give up piracy in favor of drm-free licenses, encouraged by this. but seeing the world situation and what happens to ordinary russians (most of whom are adamantly against war, to the point of wanting to lose it), i can only raise the Jolly Roger for the rest of my life.
Ты хотя бы спиратить можешь. А для меня покупка лицензии единственный выход на данный момент. И то я остался ни с чем. У меня просто отобрали возможность играть. Столько денег потрачено впустую
Posted March 04, 2022
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al281442: Wouldn't that in consequence mean we'd actually have to make sure to prevent him getting into this position of maybe being overthrown? Wouldn't we have to support his iron grip on the country because he is that one weirdo with the big red button...?

Call me an interventionist but I can't follow. If we always let the bullies have their way to enjoy one more moment of peace and quiet in the present it won't get us anywhere better. It's that Munich 1938 thing.

Indeed the stakes are high right now. It's kinda balancing on a knife's edge.

I surely don't think it's fair to ask everyone to be like Nawalny (who is miraculously not dead). But for example in Russia if you want to do just one little thing tell friends and family to read Nowaja Gaseta / Новая газета instead of Vlad's papers. Do it privately. Thankfully surveillance in Russia is not (yet?) as strict as in other authoritarian systems. They don't have spies at every corner like the old GDR. They don't have cyber-whatnot like today's China.

It's got to start at some point.
I think it's a jarring game of opposing him (otherwise he'll feel like he can do whatever the heck he wants), but not to the point where he gets so desperate that he'll want to press that button.

We need to make him afraid, but not desperate.

That's the kind of crazy distinction you get to have to make when a psycho gets his hands on the launch codes. Ain't it fun?

Personally, if I was the US/EU, without actually attacking his troops in Eastern Ukraine, I'd stick my troops in Western and center Ukraine and dare him to advance further. I'd think he's back down somewhat, but lets be real, the fate of the world would be on that gamble so I kind of understand that they don't want to do that (try to explain to your constituents that you're willing to risk most of them dying over the fate of another country ;). I have a temper. Probably wouldn't make the best of leaders anyhow.
Post edited March 04, 2022 by Magnitus
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_kepel_: Ты хотя бы спиратить можешь. А для меня покупка лицензии единственный выход на данный момент. И то я остался ни с чем. У меня просто отобрали возможность играть. Столько денег потрачено впустую
В самом деле жаль тебя. Надеюсь, что у тебя всё получится, что ты сможешь насладиться прекрасными фантастическими мирами видеоигр хоть когда-нибудь. Так то у меня тоже слабый и очень старый комп, собранный ещё в 2010-2011, но я выхожу из положения старыми играми)

Really feel sorry for you. I hope that you will succeed, that you will be able to enjoy the beautiful fantasy worlds of video games someday. I also have a weak and very old computer from 2010-2011, but I'm getting out of it with old games)

Так как форум англоязычный, то все свои сообщения стоит если не писать, то хотя бы дублировать на английском
Posted March 04, 2022
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_kepel_: Ты хотя бы спиратить можешь. А для меня покупка лицензии единственный выход на данный момент. И то я остался ни с чем. У меня просто отобрали возможность играть. Столько денег потрачено впустую
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cyberfancom: В самом деле жаль тебя. Надеюсь, что у тебя всё получится, что ты сможешь насладиться прекрасными фантастическими мирами видеоигр хоть когда-нибудь. Так то у меня тоже слабый и очень старый комп, собранный ещё в 2010-2011, но я выхожу из положения старыми играми)

Really feel sorry for you. I hope that you will succeed, that you will be able to enjoy the beautiful fantasy worlds of video games someday. I also have a weak and very old computer from 2010-2011, but I'm getting out of it with old games)

Так как форум англоязычный, то все свои сообщения стоит если не писать, то хотя бы дублировать на английском
Ну старые игры наше всё. Сейчас вот в готику играть буду. Великолепная игра.
Хоть форум и англоязычный,но проблема именно наша. Поэтому не вижу смысла дублировать на инглише. Кому надо, тот прочитает.
Posted March 04, 2022
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al281442: Wouldn't that in consequence mean we'd actually have to make sure to prevent him getting into this position of maybe being overthrown? Wouldn't we have to support his iron grip on the country because he is that one weirdo with the big red button...?

Call me an interventionist but I can't follow. If we always let the bullies have their way to enjoy one more moment of peace and quiet in the present it won't get us anywhere better. It's that Munich 1938 thing.

Indeed the stakes are high right now. It's kinda balancing on a knife's edge.

I surely don't think it's fair to ask everyone to be like Nawalny (who is miraculously not dead). But for example in Russia if you want to do just one little thing tell friends and family to read Nowaja Gaseta / Новая газета instead of Vlad's papers. Do it privately. Thankfully surveillance in Russia is not (yet?) as strict as in other authoritarian systems. They don't have spies at every corner like the old GDR. They don't have cyber-whatnot like today's China.

It's got to start at some point.
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Magnitus: I think it's a jarring game of opposing him (otherwise he'll feel like he can do whatever the heck he wants), but not to the point where he gets so desperate that he'll want to press that button.

We need to make him afraid, but not desperate.

That's the kind of crazy distinction you get to have to make when a psycho gets his hands on the launch codes. Ain't it fun?

Personally, if I was the US/EU, without actually attacking his troops in Eastern Ukraine, I'd stick my troops in Western and center Ukraine and dare him to advance further. I'd think he's back down somewhat, but lets be real, the fate of the world would be on that gamble so I kind of understand that they don't want to do that (try to explain to your constituents that you're willing to risk most of them dying over the fate of another country ;). I have a temper. Probably wouldn't make the best of leaders anyhow.
I completely agree, nato should have put some troops there at the behest of the nation when Russia and Belarus co ducted their war games (more provocation). As an invited guest it would have been no different than Russia conducting its war games with Belarus. However nato, the us and eu failed to act (as is unfortunately the continuing saga) and so now we are in the situation where this cannot happen as sending in any troops now would be easily deemed agression on our point. Therefore Ukraine is pretty much on its own, I can’t see putin making a silly mistake such as attacking anywhere else’s until that territory is shorn up and with China poised to take out certain key areas that will put US in a difficult position of which front to work on. Key mistakes over the last 30 years has put us where we are now.
Posted March 04, 2022
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If there's anything that we should by now that here in [Current Year] society don't have any tolerance for nuance, polite discussion, or even logic.

Either praise or denounce whatever the current thing is. Change your social media icons to support whatever the current cause is. And then spend your time just absolutely vilify anyone that doesn't unquestioningly support whatever the current cause du jour happens to be.
Posted March 04, 2022
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_kepel_: Я человек с очень слабым ноутбуком. Он не тянет игры с 13 года. Уже очень давно я хочу собрать себе ПК, однако финансы не позволяют. Пару дней назад я познакомился с сервисом GFN. Моей радости не было предела. Не думал, что скорости моего инета хватит для комфортной игры. Я обожаю жанр киберпанк. Всей душой его люблю. И очень сильно хотел поиграть в Cyberpunk 2077. Вчера я купил игру, оформил подписку на GFN. Прихожу с работы два часа назад. Запускаю ноутбук и не вижу эту игру в своей библиотеке GFN. Они пишут, что у купивших доступ останется. Но я купил, мать вашу, эту чёртову игру! И где она? Я заплатил деньги за сраный кусок кода, который чисто физически не могу запустить на своём ноутбуке. Какого черта? Деньги на ветер.
They not authorized to remove your game, you have your recipe or an email copy? Try to contact some of the blues so they can help you, or contact directly to CD Projekt Red support, thedevelopers of the game, it will be faster than GOG. Or where you buy the game?
Posted March 04, 2022
This ban is wrong GOG.
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UnrealDelusion: It's a low blow to punish citizens for actions which are beyond their control.
It's not a low blow to give them incentives to make actions which ARE in their control. Such as deposing their Glorious Leader.
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UnrealDelusion: It's a low blow to punish citizens for actions which are beyond their control.
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kalirion: It's not a low blow to give them incentives to make actions which ARE in their control. Such as deposing their Glorious Leader.
Okay, okay, battle boy. Go ahead, tell me, how should I do this. But before you begin, I recommend you to read about Belarus and Kazahstan attempts to depose their leaders. If you don't want to (and I am sure you really don't want to), I say it shortly.

Belarus' people've been beaten. BRUTALLY beaten. And no one in Europe didn't say a word. Nobody did nothing.

Kazahstan? Oh, it is intersting. Russian army has stopped this. Army. Fucking army. Our army is loyal to Kremlin. They have, you know, guns?

So, tell me, what is your plan? What should we do?
Posted March 04, 2022
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KetobaK: My previous thread was censored.
I stood up for our Russian Users friend, those who take part in the forum for years, people that help many other users and always were kind with everybody. Think is not fair to punish them because the simple fact that this users are not part of the war, they are just splitting our community for not reason, that excuse that taxes revenue will go to war is not true, after SWIFT Bank restrictions most users couldn't purchase games anyway, so what is the point of divide our community? Of discriminate users that were part of this community for years? Let's not make GOG Community part of the war!
I'm with you in this. There's no rational reason behind this ban.
Russian GOG users aren't to blame for what is happening.

People will make wrong decisions everywhere, Russia, Ukraine, US, India, Latin America, because there are stupid people choosing the wrong thing everywhere in the world.
Post edited March 04, 2022 by _Line
Posted March 04, 2022
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Do you really think this is going to motivate a bunch of gamers to...... what exactly?

Do you really think gamers are to blame?

I doubt I'll be your customer in the near future. Because this accomplished jack shit.

I disagree with Russia's invasion, as much as I disagree with you banning them.



To put in perspective. The people with power to stop Putin, don't waste their time with things like GOG.
Post edited March 04, 2022 by MrEos
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UnrealDelusion: It's a low blow to punish citizens for actions which are beyond their control.
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kalirion: It's not a low blow to give them incentives to make actions which ARE in their control. Such as deposing their Glorious Leader.
You know, whose logic your remind me of? The logic of that Glorous Leader, who after seeng hostility from Ukraine government decided to attack Ukraine. After all, military action would give Ukranians incentive to abandon their government, right?
Posted March 04, 2022
Of all the bullshit GOG has pulled in recent years, this is what pisses me off the most. Most Russians are good people and have no control over what their rulers do. 40% of Russians don't even support the war, and the rest are being fed propaganda. Why haven't ordinary Americans faced any consequences for the devastation that our government caused in Iraq, Libya, and Yemen? Why is the world full of such hypocrites?

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kalirion: It's not a low blow to give them incentives to make actions which ARE in their control. Such as deposing their Glorious Leader.
Easy for you to say. You don't have to fear being arrested, beaten, and shot.
Besides, when has that ever worked? It didn't work in Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Syria, Iran, and North Korea. Why do you expect it to work now? We should learn from history instead of repeating it.
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