MysterD: DOOM 2016 is definitely another one. Does anyone even play this for the MP?

DOOM 2016 is awesome. Again, another games I'd love to see its MP split away from it...b/c of size and DRM-FREE purposes for the Single Player.

All of these games w/ MP-style Skirmish modes - TBH, they should have bot support and I should be able to play these offline to battle the game's AI/bots. Think Quake 3: Arena.

RoboPond: GFWL was removed in the latest Steam version it got merged with all addons and had Steamworks added to it, and the multiplayer removed from it, and renamed as GTAIV: Complete Edition.

RoboPond: I never finished DOOM. It felt more Painkiller to me than Doom so I got bored.

But the thing about these games are if developers are so worried (such as Take-Two were saying when they attempted to remove mods for GTA) then make the MP side separate.

It should really be common sense now days that players on the PC will usually want to mod single player content. And to me that should be embraced, as it shows the love for your game but also the creative side of people. (Some of the mods for GTA are crazy.)

But they should not do a Bethesda and charge people for mods.

timppu: *sad face* But I am kinda interested in the game, and don't have it yet... I have all the other GTA games though, also GTA4 (not played it yet).

RoboPond: Yes. Neither the single player or multiplayer are DRM free, both need Steam. (No matter where you buy it from.)

Truth007: Does Doom 2016 multiplayer use steam?

MysterD: At least old editions of GTA4 and EFLC have the XLiveLess Mod, I guess - since those still have all the music stations before the GTA4:CE removal of stations.

GTA4 did get updated on Steam - but, that version lost a lot of its music. Has someone created a mod to allow for us to add more radio stations to GTA4: CE? Or did someone mod the music back in for the new version of GTA4: CE?

I think GTA:O was packaged originally w/ GTA5 to make it look like a "great" deal - as in "Buy GTA5 package, get GTA Online for free!" Sure, most were probably planning to buy GTA5, but this made the deal sound ever better.

Of course, that was before any gamer realized Shark Cards and MTX's could be an issue for some w/ GTAO.

RoboPond: I'm still sad that they removed my fav song in the whole game ("Швайне" [Schweine / Pigs in German] by Glukoza (2005)).

There is a mod though I don't know if it works with the complete edition so use it at your own risk. (It was meant for the original versions.)

https://gtaforums.com/topic/908658-iveflc-radio-downgrader/

It was, and if it comes to Epic for free it will be as you said earlier to try and get more people online using it. I don't like playing online though, and have never and will never buy a Shark Card or anything.

RoboPond: the multiplayer removed from it

RoboPond: renamed as GTAIV: Complete Edition.

real.geizterfahr: Why not? I think most people interested in GTA V already have it. Doesn't hurt to gift it to the few dozen people who still didn't bring themselves to buy it. Maybe one of them buys a few GTA Dollar, or whatever their online money is called.

Leroux: I didn't bring myself to buy it due to the Rockstar Social Club requirement. Not sure if I'd take it for free under that condition. Because if there is anything to this rumour at all, it definitely will require a connection to Rockstar Social Club, just like the Ubi games Epic gave away required a connection to a Uplay account. But that would be a reason for Rockstar to do it, to get more people to give in and create a Rockstar account.

Breja: >shrug< I will never get the popularity of GTA. My every attempt to get into that series ended with nothing but boredom. At this point they'd have to pay me to try another one.

theslitherydeee: GTA is for the sandbox crowd, you can run around and ignore the story as much as you want.

theslitherydeee: GTA is for the sandbox crowd, you can run around and ignore the story as much as you want.