That seems like a sound decision,

I question my own purchase for the 3090Ti for 1500 euro's at times. Okay, it was the fastest one on the market ( not the most expensive one ( that would be either that MSI or ROG card)

I did almost look at AMD at the time of purchase, Ray tracing and my previous experience with NVidia (and a insatiable curiosity regarding a top tier purchase) finally let the scale weigh down. I like to note that i did make a special savings account just to make such a purchase. 2 years long montly donations can go a long way

I'm not really sure how and what i will do for the future, especially with my specifc needs and idea's about gaming and how much watt it does cost. If one thing I learned is that at least this 90 level card does deliver on a sense of a satisfied experience, who knows the 80's series might deliver too or maybe XTX cards in the future with a better handling of ray tracing because the overall performance of the 7900XTX is most certainly worth noting as i discovered today when watching some of the 5090 reviews!

For now i'm contemplating the purchase of a intel ultra msi meg system with some ram and new aio +maybe a new m2 drive.... i have something to celebrate, and i have a very good destination for my somewhat older system.

As it stands now i think that, at least in the current desktop offering cpu's will remain important.... gpu's maybe not so with consoles getting better and better

Still, we all know that a custom streetlegal 100k racer might beat a Ferrari... but....

you know, excuse the comparison

Indeed. Given they're reusing the same process node, there's been zero increase in architectural efficiency, a huge upping in wattage from 411w 4090 to 587w 5090, plus an obvious over-focus on "Fake Frames (tm)" in all the marketing makes you wonder if they've hit the architecture's limits with the 4000's, and are basically relying on TSMC for any future efficiency increases from now on.

I was never going to buy the 5090 anyways but what a disappointment. The performance increase matches the price and power increase, so it isn't replacing the 4090. It's rather a 4090 Ti Super.

We'll see what AMD pulls off. Either I replace my RX 6800 with a 9070XT or I pick up a steam deck with the Ryzen APUs.

Considering "native gameplay", yes, the 5090 basically is simply a "4090 TI Super", with a up to 50% boost in performance and power used. It can easily hit 600 W, so the power increase and efficiency is pretty much linear to the 4090.°°° Sure, it can make a game that will run at 30 FPS on a 7900 XTX, 3090 TI or 4070 TI Super playable at 60 FPS... or it can give the same performance on 4k such as those cards listed at 1080P... this is the only reason for getting a 5090. However... the cost is insane.. the power bill should be ignored and the availability is close to none... so a lot of tradeoffs. I simply continue using my old 3090 TI on my 1080P Plasma and may upgrade even more years into the future... at a day it looks "more bright".

Sure, my PSU... a Seasonic 1300 W Titanium, could handle even this "reactor card"; yet, so far just not worth it to me and not any sooner than when i move to 4k...

°°°Same counts for the price of course..., although i still got no clue how much the 5090 in the end may cost... as i can not see any available offers listed anywhere. It seems somewhat a "paper launch" with extremely limited quantities... and they could ask almost any price for.. as they barely can meet the demand of the "most hardcore buyers". Not sure on purpose or with some intentions.

Regarding "AI gameplay" with fake frames... the 5090 surely can pull even more ahead and even forced i assume. Because i see no reason a 4090 or a even older series could not use DLSS4, as long as the AI hardware is sufficiently strong. Most likely this is the case as a game does not actually need so many TOPS... and if so... there are other "bottlenecks" even more critical... for example the bandwidth on the RAM or the cache inside the GPU itself.

So, it is pretty possible Nvidia is at least partially "forcing" a better performance on new GPU series... so it may "look" way better than on a older generation, without a clear hardware-limitation.

Nonetheless, if no other company is able to match Nvidias rather weak showoff... then they can go along with anything they feel pleased with, just how the cookie crumbles which is only asking for wheat, no other cereal required.

Nvidia does not even care gamers that much anymore, as the entire hardware has become a "AI war" that is affecting the whole IT industrie in which Nvidia is having a "leader role" with big influence. If someone does not believe me... well... AI is "way to political" already: https://focustaiwan.tw/business/202501130025

I would just keep the RX 6800. It works fine and plays everything just fine. Also AMD at this point no longer know how to count and nVidia stock is in freefall thanks to cheap A.I. from China.

It's great to see nVidia in this predicament. They did it to themselves by forgetiing what segemnet of the market put them on the map in the first place.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/consumer/article-14331051/Nvidia-no-longer-worlds-valuable-company-losing-560-BILLION-biggest-stock-drop-history.html

The Steam Deck is still running on, at this point, outdated RDNA2 hardware. I would wait for a revision to arrive. However, most likely Valve is not going to create a updated Steam Deck (2) any sooner than the UDNA architecture is out. Because at that point the performance difference seems to be "worth it" to them in order to hand out a new Steam Deck.

Seems like UDNA is the most big thing for the consoles and perhaps AMD may hand out another "XTX" at this point which is surely in a high demand as long as they wont exceed 1000 coins. Currently, the 7900 XTX is still a good value... i never had guessed i would still spell it out several years after its release. On top of that the 3090 TI is still with suitable performance, a fair amount of years after its release... another thing which is rather surprising. Well... the advancement is simply not "what it used to be".

Clearly... the current 5000 series is not "the next big thing"... i guess i safely can wait for the 6000 series (or UDNA) to arrive. Usually AMD is nowadays a "console provider" for me... as i got some of their RDNA4 stuff inside the PS5 Pro.

Nah, they are still "the worlds 3. valuable company, right behind Apple and Microsoft", with a loss of about 17% capital from shareholders, which is around 600 Billion "soft-fiad-currency-coins"... it is just totally crazy how much money has been created up to this point. However... only a few % of all the people on earth are actually able to invest with any serious amount... so the majority got close to no saying here.

Nonetheless, the gaming market was not the main issue making those shareholders "worried". Rather the already pretty "heated up" shares which was DESTINED to drop at some point... and the Chinese AI competition which is a "alternate way" of investment. It is not to wise pumping almost every coin into one single company.

Nvidia does not need to worry the "gaming market" as they lack any serious competition and the gamers are buying Nvidia with a chance of 80-90% blindly (almost the same for the Steam-Normies). The true competition is the AI industry...

Ah yeah, no... money is nothing rare... it is just not shared well. Old wisdom but it never gets old.

5080 benchmarks just dropped and it's a worse uplift than the 5090. Reviewers are only seeing about a 10% improvement at most. (100fps vs 110fps, to visualise how insignificant that is).

50 series is really just a software update. Like buying a new phone for an extra button (*cough* Apple *cough*).

I suspect this was always going to be the result regardless of what AMD did, so I wonder if AMD regrets only planning 1 card this generation.

I'm curious, is the founder edition better than the other versions?
Linux's review highlighted how NVIDIA had aimed to shrink the GPU size
As opposed to every other company making it the size of a cat

Actually it is really nice. I hope their stock drops 50% so I can buy in.

Yeah, the 5080 is.... something else. That's got to be one of the lowest generational differences in a long time. And it gets worse and worse the lower you go from 4K. More like a 4080 Super Ti :D

Thank you frame generation for making GPUs slower and more expensive :)

I hope AMD comes with a good mid range GPU under $300 this year before GPU prices goes up to replace my aging GTX 1060.

So anyone know if founder editions from NVIDIA are better or worse than manufacturer versions 4080 or 5080?

HUB uploaded some OC performance of the MSI Vanguard 5080, it added about 10% on top of the FE model, making it within touching distance of the 4090, but it also costs as much (well, less but way over standard MSRP)