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Prah: It is not any censoring done since it's not forced by a government agency.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: It's still censorship just the same.
No, it's not. In matters like this, context makes all the difference in the world--in this case, the context being the reason(s) for the removal(s) or alteration(s), and who enforced their implementation. No moral code was being enforced by these changes, no social or political ideas were being repressed. "We removed trademarked brand logos from our own game because the contract that allowed us to use them expired--meaning we no longer had the legal right to use them--and we didn't want to risk being sued" has never been something that any reasonable person or group would lump in with censorship.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/rollercoaster_tycoon_3_complete_edition_listed_again/post11
1. Bring up the RollerCoaster Tycoon 3: Complete Edition entry in the library
2. Change Language to "Deutsch", or any of the languages other than "English"
3. Download the original 2016 build (setup_rollercoaster_tycoon3_2.1.0.16.exe) from the Download Offline Backup Installers link below
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I expect many other GOG customers probably will have a problem with their uncensored old original version of RT3 having been removed from their libraries, and replaced with a newly censored version.

And this also sets a very bad precedent for the same treatment to be done to future GOG games too, if no backlash & demands of a reversal are to arise as regards to this instance of it being done.
Changing your existing library entries is nothing new on GOG:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/original_version_of_saints_row_iv_removed_replaced_with_bad_remake_including_for_those_who_already

You can still rollback to the original, Game of the Century version through Galaxy rollback, but no way to get the installers for it anymore. Also, if the game receives 2 more updates, it will no longer be possible to rollback to the Century version as Galaxy only allows rollback of 5 versions (see screenshot).

Piracy is probably the only option how to still get the old installers (if you can get lucky and actually find them). Speaking of which, I just installed SR 4 and pre-emptively reverted to the Century version :P

While it's not reasonable to expect GOG to maintain installers for every single version of every game, it would be nice at least in cases like these where big changes/replacements are done to an existing entry. For example, just put the last pre-Re Elected installer under extras or something. That'd be an actual advantage over all other competition. But GOG probably has no leverage over the publisher's demands, if they want to keep selling the game....

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Just noticed 00063 already mentioned the Saints Row incident, so just take my post as more info on the topic.

Also IIRC, the first incidence of this thing happening was with Wolfenstein 3D, where it lost the 2 mission packs from FormGen.
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Post edited May 11, 2024 by idbeholdME
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Syphon72: Why are RCT3 reviews so negative on GOG compared to steam??
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BreOl72: Because of "reasons", I guess...
When I look at this morning the reviews were different.
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Lucian_Galca: Any difference between RCT Classic and RCT 1 & 2 using OpenRTC2? I've already got 1 & 2 running on OpenRTC2, just wondering if Classic has any significant added content.
Nope. It has all the same content with worse UI and less features (compared to OpenRCT2). You're better off just sticking with what you already have.
Post edited May 11, 2024 by P-E-S
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idbeholdME: Also IIRC, the first incidence of this thing happening was with Wolfenstein 3D, where it lost the 2 mission packs from FormGen.
Way back in 2011 Arma: Cold War Assault replaced Operation Flashpoint: GotY Edition and we lost Codemasters' Red Hammer expansion.
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Lucian_Galca: Any difference between RCT Classic and RCT 1 & 2 using OpenRTC2? I've already got 1 & 2 running on OpenRTC2, just wondering if Classic has any significant added content.
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P-E-S: Nope. It has all the same content with worse UI and less features (compared to OpenRCT2). You're better off just sticking with what you already have.
I though so from what I looked up, but I wanted extra confirmation. Much Thanks.
Good to see RCT3 back. The building (both coasters and buildings) in Parkitect is much nicer but I like the graphics of the first three RCT games much beter. They did replace the platinum with complete it looks like for those of us who already have it but didn't blue dot it.

Unfortunately, it looks like it is back with Atari asa publisher :(, so buying it is supporting the thieves at Atari. According to wikipedia:

"On 15 March 2024, Frontier announced that the publishing rights to RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 would be sold back to Atari, Inc. This was confirmed by their parent Atari SA on 2 April."

Edit: P-E-S mentioned this with a link to purchase details in the other thread.

It sounds like Frontier is having financial difficulty. Hopefully they will eventually decide that more money is good and release their stuff here.
Post edited May 11, 2024 by joveian
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Lucian_Galca: Any difference between RCT Classic and RCT 1 & 2 using OpenRTC2? I've already got 1 & 2 running on OpenRTC2, just wondering if Classic has any significant added content.
Well, Classic has... one different scenario and...0 of the improvements of OpenRCT2, and 0 of the new rides.
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HunchBluntley: No, it's not. In matters like this, context makes all the difference in the world--in this case, the context being the reason(s) for the removal(s) or alteration(s), and who enforced their implementation. No moral code was being enforced by these changes, no social or political ideas were being repressed. "We removed trademarked brand logos from our own game because the contract that allowed us to use them expired--meaning we no longer had the legal right to use them--and we didn't want to risk being sued" has never been something that any reasonable person or group would lump in with censorship.
Sides' that, Hershey is a dogwater brand of chocolate to start with! The Red Cross thing has always been stated as applicable, but video games being as young as they are thought they could cowboy it; in spite of the application towards the symbol being applied in perpetuity and retroactively, and the Atari that released that version of the game is long dead again! Hail the (depending who's counting) 6th heir to the zombie throne!
Post edited May 11, 2024 by dnovraD
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BreOl72: Because of "reasons", I guess...
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Syphon72: When I look at this morning the reviews were different.
Probably depends on what your settings are.
I only want to see reviews, that are written by "verified owners".
So, that's the box, that I check.
The reviews written by "others" don't interest me.
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BreOl72: I only want to see reviews, that are written by "verified owners".
So, that's the box, that I check.
The reviews written by "others" don't interest me.
There could be reviews by people who:
a) Own the game on another store
b) Own a physical copy

So you are potentially removing valid reviews. Probably not that many of them, but they exist.

Can also be counterproductive for games that have been on a giveaway at any point. Then there is usually a flood of "verified" reviews, saying "got the game for free, 5 stars".
Post edited May 11, 2024 by idbeholdME
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idbeholdME: Also IIRC, the first incidence of this thing happening was with Wolfenstein 3D, where it lost the 2 mission packs from FormGen.
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Ghildrean: Way back in 2011 Arma: Cold War Assault replaced Operation Flashpoint: GotY Edition and we lost Codemasters' Red Hammer expansion.
And we all know why: Because Bohemia Interactive, who developed the first Operation Flashpoint game has the rights on the game, but not the "Operation Flashpoint" brand/name, which remains with the original publisher of the game, Codemasters. So, Bohemia Interactive still sells their game, but with a different name, and stripped by all the addons they aren't responsible for and Codemasters still holds the rights for...
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Really appreciate them bringing RT3 back.
However, I do find it annoying these "fake" bundles (which don't discount already owned items) are becoming more and more common here.
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idbeholdME: There could be reviews by people who:
a) Own the game on another store
b) Own a physical copy

So you are potentially removing valid reviews. Probably not that many of them, but they exist.
"Valid" reviews are a rare find on GOG, anyway.

Because even among those reviews, written by "verified owners", there are many that are based on memories from 10, 15, or 20 years ago - when the "reviewers" played the game for the first (and probably also the last) time.

Then there are "reviews" that are based on a different version of the game (say: PS1 or Sega Dreamcast, etc).
These memories may be "valid"...but they most probably don't matter in regard to the GOG version (which is probably the, say: the DOS version).

The GOG reviews are not to be trusted.
At least not, as long it's not explicitly stated, that the review is for the actual GOG version.

And the review is written directly/shortly after playing that version, in the best case scenario - and not two years later, because it's a lazy Sunday afternoon, and one is bored and has nothing better to do.

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idbeholdME: Can also be counterproductive for games that have been on a giveaway at any point.
Then there is usually a flood of "verified" reviews, saying "got the game for free, 5 stars".
Those "non-reviews" don't matter anyway (whether they come from "verified owners", or not).
Those automatically get a "not helpful" rating from me.
This is such a BS.
Give me back my Platinum edition.
That's what I paid for.
I don't want the new subpar version.
And don't lie to me trying to sell it as a superior re-release.
Keep them separated.