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Posted March 26, 2015
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Strijkbout: It's sad but to be honest Clarkson owed it to himself as success got to him and the last few years he could only be funny at the cost of others which apparently is called political incorrect these days, 15 years ago it would have been just plain rude and that's not even touching all the racism he's been doing.
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Red_Avatar: Bullshit. Spoken like someone who has terrible terrible memory it seems because making digs at other famous people was a very very common thing back in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Watch Red Dwarf, for example, or Married with Children - it was even worse in talk shows like Tonight Show. It's only in recent years that people like you have been against this approach and while that's an entirely different debate, claiming that it wasn't that bad 15 years ago is just living under a rock.

And onto the topic: people should read more. Clarkson has mainly gotten in the news because the media are left-wing idiots who just dislike Clarkson and have been looking for every little thing to slam him on. 90% of the times he got in the news, it was completely over the top like the joke about truck drivers and killing hookers. And that's coming from someone, who like James May, thinks he's a big knob. I just think there should be room for knobs like him to exist. If all we get is dull and tedious SWJs on TV, it might as well just die.
Sure you can molest your co-workers as long as you are popular with the masses, anyone who does not comply is a fake liberalist, just ask around on the forum. It's exactly this attitude why people like him and that Salville guy got away with that sort of behaviour for so long.
I don't see the point of comparing Top Gear with MwC or Red Dwarf as the humour is rather different, I can't remember I've seen a joke of insulting a demographic group in those shows, which Clarkson does on several occasions, even as it personally didn't touch me, I did found it cheap and unfunny.
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Posted March 26, 2015
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zeffyr: Sorry to hear that many of you support BBC's decision. They're grown men, they should solve the problem like men do.

I'm also surprised that the producer isn't sacked as well. I mean he neglected his duties (organizing a meal), so he pissed of the presenter which resulted in cancelling the best motor show in the history. And he still works as a producer?

BBC is being run by hypocrites.
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wpegg: Are you actually fucking serious? Neglecting to get Jeremy Clarkson a hot meal means he should be allowed to be subjected to a viscious beating!

You've clearly never been victim of an assault. My anger almost made me write some very horrible words. I will just say that I am disgusted by your remarks.

This is the last I will say on this matter - He assaulted someone in his workplace, that is unforgivable and must see him sacked.
First of all, calm down. I've never said that he deserved beating or that behaviour of Jeremy was appropriate. He should be punished, but sacking him, thus ruining Top Gear isn't the best solution.

BBC are hypocrites: they covered Jimmy Saville for years and he did some horrible things. And now a quarell results in sacking the presenter, while the producer is crystal clear.

BTW, I see the Brits don't love the show as much I do.
Posted March 26, 2015
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Riotact: It's rumoured Chris Evans will take over.....omg :(
Oh god. Please no.
Posted March 26, 2015
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Strijkbout: Sure you can molest your co-workers as long as you are popular with the masses, anyone who does not comply is a fake liberalist, just ask around on the forum. It's exactly this attitude why people like him and that Salville guy got away with that sort of behaviour for so long.
I don't see the point of comparing Top Gear with MwC or Red Dwarf as the humour is rather different, I can't remember I've seen a joke of insulting a demographic group in those shows, which Clarkson does on several occasions, even as it personally didn't touch me, I did found it cheap and unfunny.
First of all, I didn't even mention the fight itself so you can keep your strawman argument and shove it.

Second of all, comparing a sex offender with a guy who is a bit of a knob and offends people as a result is just not done. You're over the line there, mate.

Thirdly, Irish, Welsh, Australian, Scottish, etc. mockery in English culture is very very very common. Watch Mock The Week and almost every other comedy show with a panel to see plenty of examples even today - so to single out Clarkson is more than silly.
Posted March 26, 2015
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wpegg: This is the last I will say on this matter - He assaulted someone in his workplace, that is unforgivable and must see him sacked.
100% agreed.
Posted March 26, 2015
I literally just now got, that this thread is not about this.
Never heard of the show.
Posted March 26, 2015
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Red_Avatar: First of all, I didn't even mention the fight itself so you can keep your strawman argument and shove it.
Yeah, lets just ignore it ever happened.
Can I shove it into yours, mine is not big enough.
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Red_Avatar: Second of all, comparing a sex offender with a guy who is a bit of a knob and offends people as a result is just not done. You're over the line there, mate.
I think second of all that I'm not your mate, mate.
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Red_Avatar: Thirdly, Irish, Welsh, Australian, Scottish, etc. mockery in English culture is very very very common. Watch Mock The Week and almost every other comedy show with a panel to see plenty of examples even today - so to single out Clarkson is more than silly.
It's a matter of taste, though Clarkson is genuinly funny most of the time, he made a lot of cheap jokes at the cost of other poeple.
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Posted March 26, 2015
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011284mm: Unfortunately I think the BBC wont go with him.
I think he would be a good fit. He likes cars, is funny and has a wider interest of the world then just the local pub, like James May does too.

I personally feel that the BBC will be following the calls and produce a Top Gear with an all female cast. I have seen several calls for it over the whole spectrum of the news in the last week or so.
I do wonder, if - IF - they choose that direction if it would really work (I wonder about the future of Doctor Who as a woman too). Or would the audience follow Clarkson to Sky?
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Riotact: Just saw an interview with May, he wouldn't commit to much, but he did say that , they weren't there at the start of the show and the three of them together were an important collaboration to the shows success, But its possible the show can continue without them, but also hinting that maybe it wont continue with the three of them. If that makes any sense at all :)
I think the three of them could all go to the same place. My bet being on Sky.
They have worked together for a few years now and as I understand it (so I may be wrong) Clarkson does not actually write the scripts, it is May, Hammond and team with Clarkson just bafooning to camera what they write.
Clarkson is not a stupid man, so my best guess is that if he has been even approached by another channel he will want his team to go with him. Maybe they are all hedging their bets until they know more.
I am sure on the radio (local) today they said that all three contracts go up for renewal soon, so they all might walk.

That is all speculation and trying to guess the future with sand though, so who knows.
Posted March 26, 2015
He was... okay... on the show. His best bits are those few times that he's genuine about his feelings for the topic at hand. And those are rare. To get a feel for that watch the movie "Love the Beast", where he has a short spot talking about the love of cars.

But on the whole, the format is becoming boring to me: the same pre-planned shenanigans in a different wrapper each show.
Posted March 26, 2015
I'm afraid I don't find your opinions clear, zeffyr. Would you mind clarifying them?

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zeffyr: Sorry to hear that many of you support BBC's decision. They're grown men, they should solve the problem like men do.
How exactly do "grown men" solve their problems? I don't understand if you think the BBC executives should punch Clarkson on the face and yell insults at him, or you are using double standards in here.

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zeffyr: He should be punished, but sacking him, thus ruining Top Gear isn't the best solution.
Given that Clarkson is a popular TV presenter, you think that BBC should tolerate his poor behaviour? Maybe not do a big fuss about this issue? They did that with Savile...

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zeffyr: BBC are hypocrites: they covered Jimmy Saville for years and he did some horrible things. And now a quarell results in sacking the presenter, while the producer is crystal clear.
Savile does something bad, and BBC did nothing. Bad BBC!
Clarkson does something bad, and BBC let him go. Bad BBC!
While we are considering very different levels of "bad behaviour", after Clarkson had been reprehended by the network before, and was on his "final warning" as he admitted, what would you propose as a better reaction from the BBC executives? They should not send out a message of "as long as you are popular, you are untouchable"!

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zeffyr: I'm also surprised that the producer isn't sacked as well. I mean he neglected his duties (organizing a meal), so he pissed of the presenter which resulted in cancelling the best motor show in the history. And he still works as a producer?
No. Clarkson's punches, together with his previous issues on the program resulted on it being cancelled. If the producer was at fault, he too should have been punished accordingly -- not punched; I mean warned, suspended or fired. Resolve the situation like grown men would!
However, all I find is that the producer "has suffered significant personal distress as a result of this incident, through no fault of his own". I found no details on the error of the producer. Maybe you can fill me in on that detail so I can access its gravity and see if it warrants a physical attack.
Posted March 26, 2015
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HereForTheBeer: He was... okay... on the show. His best bits are those few times that he's genuine about his feelings for the topic at hand. And those are rare. To get a feel for that watch the movie "Love the Beast", where he has a short spot talking about the love of cars.

But on the whole, the format is becoming boring to me: the same pre-planned shenanigans in a different wrapper each show.
Agreed. When he did the spot on Senna, that was exceptional. Even the one with the first Veyron.

But all these staged disasters and wrecking each other's cars is wearing a little thin.
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