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I'm rewatching the first season in anticipation of the 2d season's release and damn man, i really want to see Galadriel and Halbrand own some Orcs in the southern lands.

Truth be told, I literally forgot what season 1 was all about. The only thing i remembered was Galadriel jumping from some ship because she did not want to return (to heaven?). I have now arrived at episode 4 and i'm slowly remembering the whole story. Somewhere it is such a shame how the series is presented, for all we know season 2 might be the last.
Still I do hope that about in 10 years this will be a nice blast in the past which will provide a similar experience as Star Trek Voyager and the Battlestar Galactica reboot, which i'm also rewatching at the moment. Voyager has also been quite the experience, i think it took the better part of 2 years to finally reach the last couple of episodes. What a journey! They don't make 'm like that any more!
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Can't wait for them to reveal that Sauron is actually Aunt May's evil doppelganger from Dimension X. It was such a cool moment in the comics.
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Rings of Power is a woke dumpster fire that no one should ever watch.

Not sure why anyone would ever "anticipate Season 2," unless that person is a youtuber who will be watching it solely so that they can later make videos about it which will be mocking it.
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As somebody that is usually the grumbly old fart in a room, it is NOW my place to say I mostly enjoyed the first season and will watch the second.

Also betting our local demon hallucinating numpty has no idea what that word they keep using means! XD
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Rings of Power is a woke dumpster fire that no one should ever watch.

Not sure why anyone would ever "anticipate Season 2," unless that person is a youtuber who will be watching it solely so that they can later make videos about it which will be mocking it.
What makes it a woke dumpster fire for you? The fact that they got a female lead or a dark skinned elf or a dark skinned dwarf? These are really the only things that come to mind and that's not much of an agenda, but rather just injecting some mainstream 2024 sensibility to Tolkien's Tale (you know, women have been on the workforce for a while now and if you live in a sizable city which a lot of people are, they are getting pretty multi-ethnic).

If you want an overly progressive touchy feely dumpster fire with far more agendas than writing chops, watch Star Trek Discovery (season 1 was promising, but somewhere along the way, I don't know what happened). Now, if you want to hammer on that, by all means, I'll understand.

Otherwise, for Ring of Power... it was a bit like The Wheel of Time for me. Far from the second coming of GoT the first 4 seasons, but watchable television. Unless a bunch of really great tv shows appear around the same time and munch up all my tv time, I'll tune in.
Post edited August 25, 2024 by Magnitus
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Magnitus: but rather just injecting some mainstream 2024 sensibility to Tolkien's Tale
And that's a good thing? Middle-Earth isn't supposed to be a reflection of a sizeable city in 2024. That's the whole issue. You could just as well give elves jetpacks.
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Magnitus: but rather just injecting some mainstream 2024 sensibility to Tolkien's Tale
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Breja: And that's a good thing? Middle-Earth isn't supposed to be a reflection of a sizeable city in 2024. That's the whole issue. You could just as well give elves jetpacks.
Thats a right load of old cobblers.

Of course if you want what middle earth is supposed to be, I could remind you (and you wont like it), but then the thread would be locked because the thread would entirely be derailed by politics (which ARD has already tried).
I stopped watching after the third episode, it didnot make much sense and there were so damn many characters forgetable.
But the trailer form season 2 looks impresively more interesting.
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Zimerius: Battlestar Galactica reboot
Man that was a weird one. I am unsure if I liked or hated it, but most of the time I was bored watching it. There were some great episodes though, IIRC.

What really puzzled me about that TV series was the language they used. Yes it was English, and yeah I know I am not a native English speaker... but the vocabulary they used just seemed so weird? And no I am not talking about replacing fuck with frack, I guess back then you couldn't say fuck or ass or pippletits on TV.

It was as if they were constantly trying to find the most obscure and rarest synonym for even the most common words they used. Naturally I noticed that because it made it much harder for me to understand the dialogue even with English subtitles, constantly having to use Google translate what this and that obscure word means... I dunno, maybe native speakers don't feel the same way and it isn't obscure at all to them?

Like, the Galactica staff would never visit a toilet but e.g. a latrine, just because the latter is a bit more obscure word and I'd have to look it up in Google translate.

Can't remember the whole story arch though, I don't even remember anymore how the series ended, did someone win or lose or was it a tie, everyone became friends in the end? I remember many of the characters and what was their relation to each other, apparently the story was quite much about many of the humans actually being cylons, and you'd watch the series just to learn bit by bit who was a cylon or not. A contrived mystery to keep you watching the series.

EDIT: Is this the correct place to mention that I felt glee over hearing the Star Wars: Acolyte season 2 being cancelled?

Yeah I haven't even seen the first season and the fight between the Matrix chick and the protagonist seemed ok on Youtube, but meh. Good riddance, hopefully they learn something from this experience.
Post edited August 25, 2024 by timppu
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timppu: Man that was a weird one. I am unsure if I liked or hated it, but most of the time I was bored watching it. There were some great episodes though, IIRC.
I absolutely adored the first show as a kid.... with the light in the visor going wooo wooo and everything else going on. And of course 'Face' was in there.
But yea, lots of army talk now i think of it (in the reboot). And of course the so called psychological drama. I think it was lauded most for that part.
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timppu: EDIT: Is this the correct place to mention that I felt glee over hearing the Star Wars: Acolyte season 2 being cancelled?

Yeah I haven't even seen the first season and the fight between the Matrix chick and the protagonist seemed ok on Youtube, but meh. Good riddance, hopefully they learn something from this experience.
Weird though, Disney has it all in house. Keep the damn series and show us some good dark evil season, everyone would be flocking back. But yea, the viewer numbers decide
Post edited August 25, 2024 by Zimerius
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It's going to be terrible, like the first season.
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timppu: Man that was a weird one. I am unsure if I liked or hated it, but most of the time I was bored watching it. There were some great episodes though, IIRC.
I am quite sure that I hated it. It was boring, made absolutely no sense, and was very poorly acted (even by the few legit good actors they had), and at the same time it was so po faced and pretentious, you could tell the people making it thought they are making the smartest, deepest show ever, even thogh they didn't een bother to have any kind of plan for it. I don't think I ever wasted my time quite as badly as trying to watch that thing.
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timppu: EDIT: Is this the correct place to mention that I felt glee over hearing the Star Wars: Acolyte season 2 being cancelled?

Yeah I haven't even seen the first season and the fight between the Matrix chick and the protagonist seemed ok on Youtube, but meh. Good riddance, hopefully they learn something from this experience.
I watched the first episode, and it really was garbage. The actress playing the two protagonists is terrible, the script is simply moronic ("that woman just killed a Jedi master in a fight, lets put her in an unmanned prison ship and not guard her at all!") and it was just so dull... Even by the standards of most recent Star Wars it was really damn bad. But somehow I doubt this will be much of a learning experience for them.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Rings of Power is a woke dumpster fire that no one should ever watch.

Not sure why anyone would ever "anticipate Season 2," unless that person is a youtuber who will be watching it solely so that they can later make videos about it which will be mocking it.
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Magnitus: What makes it a woke dumpster fire for you? The fact that they got a female lead or a dark skinned elf or a dark skinned dwarf?
WTH?! is this for real? I'm going to point out that Dark Elves of LoTR lore are just regular Elves who haven't seen the light of Trees of Valinor, they are not black or dark skinned! As for the Dwarves, i would totally get if there were Dwarven women with beards, but black Dwarfs? that's unheard of! And to think there was an outrage about the innocent enough Tauriel.

Anyway, haven't read the books in a while (last one i read was The Silmarillion, i think), but i'm definitely gonna do a thorough re-read before watching this series.
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Magnitus: but rather just injecting some mainstream 2024 sensibility to Tolkien's Tale
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Breja: And that's a good thing? Middle-Earth isn't supposed to be a reflection of a sizeable city in 2024. That's the whole issue. You could just as well give elves jetpacks.
Well, i remember that Elves in Thor The Dark World had energy weapons and spaceships, and there's probably some sci-fi movie where they do have jetpacks. But that has nothing to do with LoTR.


This Rings of Power sound more like someone's fanfiction rather than a real lore true LoTR TV series.
Post edited August 25, 2024 by 00063
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Magnitus: but rather just injecting some mainstream 2024 sensibility to Tolkien's Tale
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Breja: And that's a good thing? Middle-Earth isn't supposed to be a reflection of a sizeable city in 2024. That's the whole issue. You could just as well give elves jetpacks.
Not the same thing at all.

It's a TV series made for a modern audience, where many viewers aren't Caucasian or white and different more enlightened views about women and gender as well as ethnic groups are the norm now.

To call it woke, like Ancient-Red-Dragon does, is the height of silliness ... not to mention greater profits and possible acclaim from appealing to a broader audience.

Nothing wrong with making a TV series more applicable for modern viewers, and I am pretty sure if Tolkien were still alive he would feel exactly the same way. He might not agree with other changes, but he was always a decent human being, and would want his work to appeal far and wide.

And I say all of that as someone who totally disagreed with the gender agenda politics changes to Doctor Who. I would have been fine if Doctor Who had died (or retired) and been replaced by his granddaughter Susan or another Timelord that was female, but to co-opt a well known character without a hint of femaleness for many decades, and turn them into a female, is a bridge too far. Taking liberties with a beloved franchise is just full blown disrespect. You are not being true to long term fans or the character.

And just for the record, I quite enjoyed Rings Of Power, even if I think they didn't do a particularly good job of making things very clear much of the time ... okay for me who has read most of the material about Middle Earth, but I know many folk found it a bit tough to follow what was going on much of the time.

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00063: Anyway, haven't read the books in a while (last one i read was The Silmarillion, i think), but i'm definitely gonna do a thorough re-read before watching this series.
Have a broader thinking more open minded read when you do, as you clearly did not get what Tolkien was on about.

What matters is the behavior and the mindsets, not the color of anyone's skin. It is about substance not superficiality.
Post edited August 26, 2024 by Timboli
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Rialmwe: I stopped watching after the third episode, it didnot make much sense and there were so damn many characters forgetable.
But the trailer form season 2 looks impresively more interesting.
I stopped at a promotional cast interview prior to release where they bragged non-stop about how inclusive they were and that finally someone is showing this old white dude Tolkien how to do fantasy. I wouldn't hold my hope high, this project was made by the wrong people for all the wrong reasons...