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Part of me wants to <rolleyes>

And part of me says "Yes, the majority of games today are not 'sexist, misogynistic cliché' ".

With the games I played back in the day, there wasn't a majority in the first place with those problems. So from my perspective it went from not a majority to not a majority.
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How many games are really launching with 'rescue the princess' as the core plot these days? Sure, there's one or two indie homages but that's just the nature of mimicking something from the past.


In general, I don't find 'rescue the princess' sexist, just an age-old tale that has been passed on from generation to generation.
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Linko90: In general, I don't find 'rescue the princess' sexist, just an age-old tale that has been passed on from generation to generation.
Ever play Karateka?

Sexist my ass. The game would have been a lot easier had it been her rescuing him.
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Linko90: In general, I don't find 'rescue the princess' sexist, just an age-old tale that has been passed on from generation to generation.
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tinyE: Ever play Karateka?

Sexist my ass. The game would have been a lot easier had it been her rescuing him.
That damn bird, messing up my rhythm.
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Dragon Quest 4 has one chapter where you rescue a fake princess, and later (in the same chapter) have to save another princess from having to marry someone evil. The twist? I mentioned that you have to rescue a fake princess, but in this chapter *you* are the real princess that she was pretending to be!

(It's too bad that, when viewed with a feminist perspective, Dragon Quest 5 regressed compared to its predecessor.)

SaGa Frontier has one part where you have the option to rescue a girl, but here, you are playing as a girl. In fact, there does appear to be a lesbian relationship here, and the girl who you might rescue plays a major role in the ending, regardless of which path you choose. (Also, that girl actually narrates the early part of this story.) If you want to see this particular story, choose Asellus as your main character.

(By the way, if you want a book recommendation, I would recommend Dealing With Dragons by Patricia Wrede; it's a wonderful story that makes fun of gender and fantasy stereotypes; for example, it starts with the princess running away to the dragon's lair, and not wanting to be rescued by a prince.)
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Linko90: In general, I don't find 'rescue the princess' sexist, just an age-old tale that has been passed on from generation to generation.
The problem is that this trope has been over-used over the ages. (You know it's been over-used when it appears in an "excuse plot", like in the Mario series.)

Where are the games where you have to rescue a prince instead?
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How is it misogynist to save the princess? Wouldn't it be misogynist not´to save the princess? Or is everything misogyny nowadays?

So how should it be instead, a woman hero saving some hapless guy? Would that be considered misandry?

The thing is, men and boys quite often like adventure and doing (or fantasizing) of doing heroic deeds where they are admired for their heroism. Women, on the other hand, enjoy cooking, raising children (preferably male children) and backstabbing each other. It's in our genes.

Hence, if you don't like games where you play a man doing heroic deeds, just skip such games. I'm sure there are enough games about cooking and raising children for you. Have you checked e.g. here?

http://www.girlsgogames.com/

There are lots of categories like cooking games, dress-up games, gossip games, backstabbing games etc.

Sure women are action heros too... in movies. But not in real life. Games are supposed to be as realistic as possible, hence male heroes. It is not a coincidence that female heroes are called "heroin(e)". Ie. like the drug. One must be on drugs to be that way, it is just unnatural.
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timppu: ...
The thing is, men and boys quite often like adventure and doing (or fantasizing) of doing heroic deeds where they are admired for their heroism. ...
I've slain quite a few evil robot emperors and their dark armies back in my day. Though cunning, hiding all of their bases and missile silos among the shrubs and flower beds in our backyard was not enough to protect them from my keen detective skills! At least until I started to spend too much time gaming on weekends. Hmmm, it's almost as if pc gaming steadily ruined my imagination over the years :\
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Post edited August 29, 2018 by Fairfox
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Fairfox: buuuut point is thar shuoldnt b princess need savin' in 1st place
Ummm... ok, so Mario in Donkey Kong or Super Mario Bros would be just standing around smoking a fag, talking to the turtles about the weather and basketball?

I fail to see how that would make those games interesting.
Post edited August 29, 2018 by timppu
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dtgreene: The problem is that this trope has been over-used over the ages. (You know it's been over-used when it appears in an "excuse plot", like in the Mario series.)
You mean unlike "kill the bad guy", "find the magic object(s)", "save the world", etc, etc... or all the others similar tropes/plot excuses that are used billions times more often that "save the princess" ever was in video games.
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I always thought Paul and Vince were out to rescue each other, and hold each other tight, by the campfire, after a long day of killing baddies.

Seriously, LOOK at those guys! :P

Oh sure, Paul is acting like he checking to his left for the enemy, but he's really just sneaking a peak at Vince.
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