Posted August 31, 2018
KneeTheCap
Nasse-Setä
Registered: Feb 2010
From Finland
dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted August 31, 2018
low rated
Wolfy777
Just a small furball :)
Registered: Dec 2016
From Slovenia
Posted August 31, 2018
The plot was that the player's character would go from a squire to a knight.
Sticking to at least a minimal amount of realism makes that impossible for a female.
And there's a scene where your mentor is trying to inspire ill-prepared soldiers for a longer battle and his speech goes along the lines:
"I know you're frightened and that you'd rather be doing something else. I'd much attend a tournament, fuck and drink so much I'd forget what I did by morning.
...
But as we were ordered by the king on this mission, we have to fulfill it.
So: fight for your families, your lives and the life of the man next to you.
Tonight might be the last time you see your home. Take a moment to remember it."
Would that speech work in a different context and not with male farmers turned into soldiers overnight? I doubt it.
Sorry, but I'll have to laugh at that one. XD
If you meant to replay to the user I replied to I get it, but otherwise, it makes 0 sense.
I really love to experiment when playing games; sometimes I discover interesting things. For example, I'll attach a screenshot of something strange I remember discovering decades ago. (If you're not familiar with the game, the bottom of the screen shows the party, and the upper right is the combat log; this screenshot was taken during a battle.)
See for yourself.
The game always adresses the player as "you" or by the name you pick for him.
Maybe it would work, but the the game itself would not gain anything by including a female protagonist.
Besides, it would butcher the expanded romances in the second game, given that the game's setting is the Middle Ages and it was impossible for 2 women to have kids back then.
A female squire: In fantasy, yes.
However, in the Middle Ages the gender dynamics were very diffrent and unless I'm wrong, women were not allowed to be soldiers or knights. A girl woudln't even be accepted as a squire.
The second part:
Ah, now it makes sense.
Thanks for pointing out is was a joke. :)
Sometimes I may takes a joke seriously because I don't even realise it was a joke.
Yes, autism, I'm looking at you. XD
I do like my increased attention to deatil thanks to Ausperger's syndrome, but reading between the lines is next to mission impossible.
You support Steam by buying games on it or not by not buying them.
Unless there's more to it?
Post edited August 31, 2018 by Wolfy777
dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
Registered: Jan 2010
From United States
Posted August 31, 2018
You support Steam by buying games on it or not by not buying them.
Unless there's more to it?
Incidentally, I actually go as far as to avoid Windows, because of DRM in the OS and other reasons; I run exclusively Linux on the computers I own.
Wolfy777
Just a small furball :)
Registered: Dec 2016
From Slovenia
Posted August 31, 2018
You support Steam by buying games on it or not by not buying them.
Unless there's more to it?
Incidentally, I actually go as far as to avoid Windows, because of DRM in the OS and other reasons; I run exclusively Linux on the computers I own.
Your policy, your rules.
I still don't see how checking out a link on Steam helps them.
They don't make money form just people visiting their site. Or do they?
HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Posted August 31, 2018
Thanks for replying.
It depends for me, too.
For instance, a game I adore - Independence War 2 - has a male lead alongside male and female cohorts. Does the gender / sex / whatever they call it these days matter at all to the story? Not a bit. Could it have been written with a female lead? Sure, and would be the same game. So why isn't the option available? I suspect time and cost came into it. All the characters are voice acted, which costs money and time, and the game was cut short from its originally-planned scope, according to a former team member who posted in the forum.
For games that give the option, I will often play as a female. This is usually done to see if the game changes at all. For example, Mount and Blade: Warband treats women a bit differently, but I think you eventually work your way to having the same options as male characters; the prime difference seems to be in marriage options, but those open up once you've made a name for yourself. Some options early on go differently but the game doesn't really treat female characters as lesser or handicapped in any way that I noticed - in combat, there seems to be no difference. I don't recall the personal stories of your followers being gender-specific.
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General comment, not directed to Wolfy:
Maybe as a guy I'm less sensitive to the stuff. But I'm also completely willing to play either a male or female lead if a game offers the choice, especially if the story changes a bit to match. I mean, why limit your options? "I won't play if it doesn't have this gender." Suit yourself. I'm going to play, and enjoy the experience. Maybe see some new things along the way. Does a game need to include every possible combination of gender / sex / sexuality? Heavens no! A game that clumsily includes many options is probably worse than one that sticks to one or two options and does them well.
It depends for me, too.
For instance, a game I adore - Independence War 2 - has a male lead alongside male and female cohorts. Does the gender / sex / whatever they call it these days matter at all to the story? Not a bit. Could it have been written with a female lead? Sure, and would be the same game. So why isn't the option available? I suspect time and cost came into it. All the characters are voice acted, which costs money and time, and the game was cut short from its originally-planned scope, according to a former team member who posted in the forum.
For games that give the option, I will often play as a female. This is usually done to see if the game changes at all. For example, Mount and Blade: Warband treats women a bit differently, but I think you eventually work your way to having the same options as male characters; the prime difference seems to be in marriage options, but those open up once you've made a name for yourself. Some options early on go differently but the game doesn't really treat female characters as lesser or handicapped in any way that I noticed - in combat, there seems to be no difference. I don't recall the personal stories of your followers being gender-specific.
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General comment, not directed to Wolfy:
Maybe as a guy I'm less sensitive to the stuff. But I'm also completely willing to play either a male or female lead if a game offers the choice, especially if the story changes a bit to match. I mean, why limit your options? "I won't play if it doesn't have this gender." Suit yourself. I'm going to play, and enjoy the experience. Maybe see some new things along the way. Does a game need to include every possible combination of gender / sex / sexuality? Heavens no! A game that clumsily includes many options is probably worse than one that sticks to one or two options and does them well.
Wolfy777
Just a small furball :)
Registered: Dec 2016
From Slovenia
Posted August 31, 2018
It depends for me, too.
For instance, a game I adore - Independence War 2 - has a male lead alongside male and female cohorts. Does the gender / sex / whatever they call it these days matter at all to the story? Not a bit. Could it have been written with a female lead? Sure, and would be the same game. So why isn't the option available? I suspect time and cost came into it. All the characters are voice acted, which costs money and time, and the game was cut short from its originally-planned scope, according to a former team member who posted in the forum.
For games that give the option, I will often play as a female. This is usually done to see if the game changes at all. For example, Mount and Blade: Warband treats women a bit differently, but I think you eventually work your way to having the same options as male characters; the prime difference seems to be in marriage options, but those open up once you've made a name for yourself. Some options early on go differently but the game doesn't really treat female characters as lesser or handicapped in any way that I noticed - in combat, there seems to be no difference. I don't recall the personal stories of your followers being gender-specific.
-----
General comment, not directed to Wolfy:
Maybe as a guy I'm less sensitive to the stuff. But I'm also completely willing to play either a male or female lead if a game offers the choice, especially if the story changes a bit to match. I mean, why limit your options? "I won't play if it doesn't have this gender." Suit yourself. I'm going to play, and enjoy the experience. Maybe see some new things along the way. Does a game need to include every possible combination of gender / sex / sexuality? Heavens no! A game that clumsily includes many options is probably worse than one that sticks to one or two options and does them well.
I do rember some of the Dragon Age games made your companions unique also in the aspect of sexuality.
Some characters were even gey or lesbian in Inquisition and even in Origins some characters were bisexual and some straight.
Having a male or female PC had no real impact on the story (I haven't played any of the games besides DA Origins).
There was only one game where I did encounter a difference in attributes and not just apperance between male and female characters: Dungeon Lords.
You could pick male/female elf, male/female human and a bunch of demon races that were only male.
Story-wise your selection made no difference whatsoever.
I rember female has somewaht lower strength compare to males, but higher in some magic related attribute.
Still given that female also had acess to an exclusive guild and thus class options, it wasn't such a bad trade-off.
If ound it intresting how my reaction to the two characters was diffrent.
The female elf looked fragile so it made it harder to play against some unded enemies (the graphics are fairly cartoonish, but I've always had a fear of the undead in video games).
While the male character happened to be a member of some half hyena demon race and looked more viscious with fangs and claws, plus he had the signature hyena grin.
In the end I solved my problem be muting the audio of the game in areas with scary enemies and picked my own music in an external prgram. XD That and by picking a mage, with that class the game lets your freeze your foes and then burn them to a crisp. ;)
P.S. What does <snip> stand for/mean?
HereForTheBeer
Positive Patty
Registered: Oct 2009
From United States
Wolfy777
Just a small furball :)
Registered: Dec 2016
From Slovenia
devoras
New User
Registered: Jun 2012
From Canada
Posted August 31, 2018
You could pick male/female elf, male/female human and a bunch of demon races that were only male.
Story-wise your selection made no difference whatsoever.
I rember female has somewaht lower strength compare to males, but higher in some magic related attribute.
Still given that female also had acess to an exclusive guild and thus class options, it wasn't such a bad trade-off.
As for the gender swap thing, in my opinion is it's not necessary. The witcher games would not have worked better if you had the option to make geralt a female. Tomb raider would not have worked better if you had the option to make lara a male.
Wolfy777
Just a small furball :)
Registered: Dec 2016
From Slovenia
Posted August 31, 2018
You could pick male/female elf, male/female human and a bunch of demon races that were only male.
Story-wise your selection made no difference whatsoever.
I rember female has somewaht lower strength compare to males, but higher in some magic related attribute.
Still given that female also had acess to an exclusive guild and thus class options, it wasn't such a bad trade-off.
As for the gender swap thing, in my opinion is it's not necessary. The witcher games would not have worked better if you had the option to make geralt a female. Tomb raider would not have worked better if you had the option to make lara a male.