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Posted August 26, 2015
Goodbyes are not forever (and war never changes).

It's not the first time we give this advice, but remember to take your Rad-X pills, try not to mistake a G.E.C.K for a gecko (not even remotely the same thing!), and take good care of yourself out there in the wasteland: <span class="bold">Fallout</span>, the premiere post nuclear role playing game franchise, is back.
The Fallout games have been with us on day one, and they played an inseparable part in defining the early GOG.com catalog. When they got swept away by radioactive winds, a gaping hole the size of California was left behind that we haven't quite been able to fill... until now!

Once again, you can pick up all three RPG classics at <span class="bold">66% off in a single post-apo bundle that includes:
--Fallout
--Fallout 2
--Fallout Tactics





We're welcoming Bethesda Softworks to GOG.com with more bundles, and tons of new classic releases - all DRM-free of course - and don't forget that two The Elder Scrolls classics (The Elder Scrolls: Arena and The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall) will drop like a bomb straight into your library, completely FREE with any Bethesda purchase. The bundle promos end on Wednesday, September 2, 12:59 PM GMT.





Stream watch:
Twitch.tv/GOGcom is worth your attention - we'll be showing off all three returning Fallout games over the next few days, along with many other Bethesda releases!

THURSDAY, August 27th:
4pm GMT / 6pm CEST / 12pm EDT / 9am PDT: Fallout Tactics with MegapiemanPHD

SATURDAY, August 29th:
6pm GMT / 8pm CEST / 2pm EDT / 11am PDT: Fallout 2 with Outstar
8pm GMT / 10pm CESt / 4pm EDT / 1pm PDT: Fallout 1 with Vlad of The Weekend Slice
Posted August 26, 2015
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SirPrimalform: Why do I no longer own the Fallout games according to the store? ._.
The Interplay-published ones and the Bethesda-published ones have different product ID's, and the Interplay-published ones haven't been displayed in the store, or been purchasable, since January 1, 2014. As far as the store is concerned, they are completely different products (similar to games with multiple editions).

EDIT: Also, yeah, as has already been mentioned, the old ones were renamed and given the "Classic" suffix.
Post edited August 26, 2015 by Maighstir
Posted August 26, 2015
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MIK0: GOG customers are second class citizen, they remind it on every news or change on the site.
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elgonzo: So, that's why you were and still are coming here... :)
With this way of thinking GOG would became even more a niche because most of the users would left. I understand that they are willing to sacrifice the people who made them out the first years of the store to appeal the new customers, but still is a risky move.
Staying here and giving feedbacks is a way to improve things. The problem is that apparently there's noone to receive those feedbacks.

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MIK0: GOG customers are second class citizen, they remind it on every news or change on the site.
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ClaymoreFan: Yeah, they whine about everything
Do you believe is fair calling whine every criticism you don't like? Without citicism it's really hard to improve things. And they clearly aren't improving themself.
Posted August 26, 2015
There's always a catch...
Posted August 26, 2015
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Alenonimo: That's true. I didn't had to rebuy the games on Steam either. What gives? :(
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Ixamyakxim: Probably because GoG gave the freakin' things away free. Do you think GoG would risk negotiations (and have this day never happen?) over a free upgrade to a free series of games? Could you imagine the look on the Beth lawyers' faces when GoG reps are pounding on the table demanding that?
A pre-emptive +1 to you, because like it or not, this is almost certainly the correct answer.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Ixamyakxim: Probably because GoG gave the freakin' things away free. Do you think GoG would risk negotiations (and have this day never happen?) over a free upgrade to a free series of games? Could you imagine the look on the Beth lawyers' faces when GoG reps are pounding on the table demanding that?
+1 there.

I guess I don't mind not getting the upgrades for free, not that I'll be re-buying the games any time soon.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Maighstir: The Interplay-published ones and the Bethesda-published ones have different product ID's, and the Interplay-published ones haven't been displayed in the store, or been purchasable, since January 1, 2014. As far as the store is concerned, they are completely different products (similar to games with multiple editions).

EDIT: Also, yeah, as has already been mentioned, the old ones were renamed and given the "Classic" suffix.
Games have changed hands on GOG before without needing a new product ID though. This seems like a very deliberate attempt by Bethesda to exclude owners of the game from the Interplay era, possibly because of the giveaway but I paid for the games long before that.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Pietro672: I don't understand the complaints, I really don't. I would've been more upset if the people who bought it from Interplay lost all the free goodies that new purchasers don't get in the new Bethesda version. All you "lose" are the free patches that are readily available.
Most complaints so far are the missing explanations what exactly are the differences between the old ones in the backlog and these versions from Bethesda. Are these the updated versions from Bethesda with widescreen-mod included? Why is the thread labelled as Fallout Classics, like the old Interplay releases in the backlog? As most folks already own the old "classics" releases no ones really understand what's exactly going on here.. Clarifications from gogs side would be helpful why there are new releases and how they differ.
Post edited August 26, 2015 by DukeNukemForever
Posted August 26, 2015
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DukeNukemForever: Most complaints so far are the missing explanations what exactly are the differences between the old ones in the backlog and these versions from Bethesda. Are these the updated versions from Bethesda with widescreen-mod included? Why is the thread labelled as Fallout Classics, like the old Interplay releases in the backlog? As most folks already own the old "classics" releases no ones really understand what's exactly going on here.. Clarifications from gogs side would be helpful why there are new releases and how they differ.
Bingo. Seems really odd to me that they didn't preempt this with some kind of explanation. They had to know that this question would come up immediately.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Pietro672: I don't understand the complaints, I really don't. I would've been more upset if the people who bought it from Interplay lost all the free goodies that new purchasers don't get in the new Bethesda version. All you "lose" are the free patches that are readily available.
There shouldn't really be two versions. The new customers should have the extras that the 'classic' versions have and the old customers should have access to the updates.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Maighstir: The Interplay-published ones and the Bethesda-published ones have different product ID's, and the Interplay-published ones haven't been displayed in the store, or been purchasable, since January 1, 2014. As far as the store is concerned, they are completely different products (similar to games with multiple editions).

EDIT: Also, yeah, as has already been mentioned, the old ones were renamed and given the "Classic" suffix.
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SirPrimalform: Games have changed hands on GOG before without needing a new product ID though. This seems like a very deliberate attempt by Bethesda to exclude owners of the game from the Interplay era, possibly because of the giveaway but I paid for the games long before that.
Perhaps. Also, the classic ones have both Windows and OS X (via Wine) downloads whereas the new ones don't. GOG might simply have wanted to preserve the OS X download for those who bought the games for that reason while Bethesda perhaps did not authorise anything other than a Windows release (seeing how the new ones only have Windows downloads).
Posted August 26, 2015
Congrats GOG.COM to get them here again! Now strap them tight, one never knows, these "radioactive winds" are erratic... ;)
Posted August 26, 2015
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DukeNukemForever: Most complaints so far are the missing explanations what exactly are the differences between the old ones in the backlog and these versions from Bethesda. Are these the updated versions from Bethesda with widescreen-mod included? Why is the thread labelled as Fallout Classics, like the old Interplay releases in the backlog? As most folks already own the old "classics" releases no ones really understand what's exactly going on here.. Clarifications from gogs side would be helpful why there are new releases and how they differ.
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MrFortyFive: Bingo. Seems really odd to me that they didn't preempt this with some kind of explanation. They had to know that this question would come up immediately.
I agree. It almost seems like they didn't want to talk about the issue because it's really hard to think they didn't anticipate this question if they had their customers as a priority.
This gives the rightful impression that once you paid for something on GOG your are not as important as you were before giving them money.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Pietro672: I don't understand the complaints, I really don't. I would've been more upset if the people who bought it from Interplay lost all the free goodies that new purchasers don't get in the new Bethesda version. All you "lose" are the free patches that are readily available.
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SirPrimalform: There shouldn't really be two versions. The new customers should have the extras that the 'classic' versions have and the old customers should have access to the updates.
But it may be easier to say than to do. The rights for the bonuses may have expired with the licence to sell these games, and not be renewed by this new contract. Stuff like that.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Question for the blues:

Will the Classic (Interplay) editions continue to receive patches, or if we want to ensure that our Fallouts have the latest OS support do we need to buy the new (Bethesda) editions? Please let me know before the sale ends, thank you.
Posted August 26, 2015
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Pietro672: I don't understand the complaints, I really don't. I would've been more upset if the people who bought it from Interplay lost all the free goodies that new purchasers don't get in the new Bethesda version. All you "lose" are the free patches that are readily available.
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SirPrimalform: There shouldn't really be two versions. The new customers should have the extras that the 'classic' versions have and the old customers should have access to the updates.
My guess is that Bethesda didn't want to provide those extras because they want the Steam and GOG versions to be identical (apart from DRM Free), so the choices were either:

- Update the versions of old customers to remove the extras and add in the patches.
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- Leave the Interplay customers untouched so that they don't automatically have the free patches, while leaving the extras.

I think they made the right decision, there would've been an uproar if they removed the extras from older customers.
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