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skeletonbow: To be honest I think people are overreacting to your post and blaming the victim here.
There is still hope I think... Someone reasonable, talking properly and politely. Thanks skeletonbow.
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pimpmonkey2382.313: And could have easily started it outside of galaxy.
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almabrds: Yep.
And there's this thing called Photoshop, too :p
Is Carlo trying to pull the wool over our eyes?
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Post edited July 07, 2016 by almabrds
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pimpmonkey2382.313: Is Carlo trying to pull the wool over our eyes?
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almabrds: Probably!
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tinyE: As far as playing SP, it takes 20 minutes, maybe 30 to get what you need to build a MP Portal at which point the sky is yours. As far as who joins, about that part I know nothing about.
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almabrds: Time shouldn't be a problem for him.
He wasted much more than 20 minutes in this thread alone.
Actually what puzzles me the most - He didn't do the slightest research - Gog reviews on the game page he linked said Multiplayer isn't worth it.
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almabrds: Probably!

Time shouldn't be a problem for him.
He wasted much more than 20 minutes in this thread alone.
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BlackThorny: Actually what puzzles me the most - He didn't do the slightest research - Gog reviews on the game page he linked said Multiplayer isn't worth it.
Yeah I try to read as much as I can about any game that I even MIGHT want, even if it's an atari 2600. This makes no sense to me.
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Post edited July 07, 2016 by almabrds
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skeletonbow: To be honest I think people are overreacting to your post and blaming the victim here.
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tokisto: There is still hope I think... Someone reasonable, talking properly and politely. Thanks skeletonbow.
This. Telling people that they have to look. LPs and read reviews is quite strange in this particular case. If you really can't play multiplayer mode right away in a game that is advertised as a multiplayer game, it should be stated at the game card.
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Post edited July 07, 2016 by almabrds
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The only thing that matters is if the OP actually qualifies for a refund or not. Whether he was lazy or not is subjective and irrelevant really. It's a given that the more information people read in terms of the game description, watching trailers and looking at screenshots, possibly reading reviews etc. then the more information they'll be armed with to make a better purchase decision. Everyone doesn't always have the time or feel the need to do that however, or they may read as much as they possibly can and still not find out about some issue or flaw.

What matters is not judging their character, but providing a good customer service experience. This person's complaint is that under identical circumstances - he was refused a refund but someone else was granted one. That is arguably a bad customer service experience regardless of whether or not he read the reviews/details. Either both/all customers should be issued a refund, or none of them should be - if their circumstances are exactly the same.

Also, in terms of customer service - even if it turns out they should not have issued a refund to the father due to the circumstances being the same, but did anyway - then it would be reasonable for them to make an exception in this case in the name of customer service, and I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if that's exactly what they do.

I know if I had the same experience as described here by the OP, I would be unsatisfied knowing someone with identical circumstances got a refund but I was refused, and I think every other person on GOG would feel the same if they had the same experience too.

This all assumes of course that their circumstances are exactly the same. If for example the father never did download the game, then his account would show he didn't and that could be why he got a refund. That would make things different. But if they all did download it and it's verifiable, then they should all get the same customer service result - whether they read the reviews or not.

Customer service 101.

I've had nothing but fantastic customer service from GOG personally. Even had them offer to refund me $40'ish for a game I bought 12 months prior and played for hundreds of hours just from asking them a question (nothing to do with a refund) - which I turned down because I didn't feel right taking the money and felt they were going way beyond the call of duty for what was just a question I had, and not a support request.

One final tip though to anyone and everyone - which are words to live by when it comes to interacting with support (GOG or anywhere really) - you get further with a smile and honey than with guns and anger. (TM), and when making assumptions about the experience you think you'll get - it's always best to assume good results than bad, as the assumptions will tend to affect the mood and language choices one uses.
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skeletonbow: The only thing that matters is if the OP actually qualifies for a refund or not. Whether he was lazy or not is subjective and irrelevant really. It's a given that the more information people read in terms of the game description, watching trailers and looking at screenshots, possibly reading reviews etc. then the more information they'll be armed with to make a better purchase decision. Everyone doesn't always have the time or feel the need to do that however, or they may read as much as they possibly can and still not find out about some issue or flaw.

What matters is not judging their character, but providing a good customer service experience. This person's complaint is that under identical circumstances - he was refused a refund but someone else was granted one. That is arguably a bad customer service experience regardless of whether or not he read the reviews/details. Either both/all customers should be issued a refund, or none of them should be - if their circumstances are exactly the same.

Also, in terms of customer service - even if it turns out they should not have issued a refund to the father due to the circumstances being the same, but did anyway - then it would be reasonable for them to make an exception in this case in the name of customer service, and I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if that's exactly what they do.

I know if I had the same experience as described here by the OP, I would be unsatisfied knowing someone with identical circumstances got a refund but I was refused, and I think every other person on GOG would feel the same if they had the same experience too.

This all assumes of course that their circumstances are exactly the same. If for example the father never did download the game, then his account would show he didn't and that could be why he got a refund. That would make things different. But if they all did download it and it's verifiable, then they should all get the same customer service result - whether they read the reviews or not.

Customer service 101.

I've had nothing but fantastic customer service from GOG personally. Even had them offer to refund me $40'ish for a game I bought 12 months prior and played for hundreds of hours just from asking them a question (nothing to do with a refund) - which I turned down because I didn't feel right taking the money and felt they were going way beyond the call of duty for what was just a question I had, and not a support request.

One final tip though to anyone and everyone - which are words to live by when it comes to interacting with support (GOG or anywhere really) - you get further with a smile and honey than with guns and anger. (TM), and when making assumptions about the experience you think you'll get - it's always best to assume good results than bad, as the assumptions will tend to affect the mood and language choices one uses.
That's if it's happened exactly as he's stated.
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almabrds: That's it, the OP was super lazy, to the point of not even reading the first review in the game page!
Setting aside that the info was in a review by a GOG member, I actually think this should be in the game's description. This is not a normal way to set up multiplayer in a game. It's downright weird, actually, and as such should be noted on the game page.

Just my 2 cents.
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PaterAlf: This. Telling people that they have to look. LPs and read reviews is quite strange in this particular case. If you really can't play multiplayer mode right away in a game that is advertised as a multiplayer game, it should be stated at the game card.
And this.


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lokiracer: Thanks for the input. I'll try contacting GOG again and reexplain the situation.
It should be more than apparent that there's no point in continuing to reply to posts here, just contact GOG Support, explain the situation once again, and ask for clarification.
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PaterAlf: This. Telling people that they have to look. LPs and read reviews is quite strange in this particular case. If you really can't play multiplayer mode right away in a game that is advertised as a multiplayer game, it should be stated at the game card.
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HypersomniacLive: And this.

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lokiracer: Thanks for the input. I'll try contacting GOG again and reexplain the situation.
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HypersomniacLive: It should be more than apparent that there's no point in continuing to reply to posts here, just contact GOG Support, explain the situation once again, and ask for clarification.
My dad has contacted the customer service rep that he dealt with.

Thanks for the tips everyone.
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skeletonbow: with guns and anger. (TM)
Did you trademark this for a game you are developing?
A game that you have to play in single player mode about 30 minutes before you can play in multi player mode... each time?

Yuck.