Food attracts murderers, should we ban food? What an ignorant comparison.

What if we banned it? It's not like we would lose anything of value. It is absolutely worthless and offers zero cultural value, unlike the national anthem.

Loli IS child porn and only those with issues watch that.

@DDDespair No, as long as that crap doesn't show up while I try to browse games that is.

Ah, so it only matters if you see it.

I kinda agree, in the sense that it would be nice for customers to configure their storefront to present items of interest. I personally dislike sports games, don't want MMOs, but desire lots of anime and cartoon-styled games. Unfortunately, Steam keeps pushing the realistic sports-mmo combo onto to me. Their anti-tag system is also bad, because it is too hardcore: Xenoverse 2 was invisible to me until I ditched the massively-multiplayer tag.


I don't want anyone to be deprived of their cup of tea, but I would like to easily find my mug of coffee. Whoever manages to create an effective recommendation filter will dominate their market.

That's reasonable, but you also don't seem to be campaigning in an announcement thread for it and plastering worthless reviews on the release pages. I don't disagree with you, there's tons of stuff that I'm not interested in. I wish the "recommended for you" section was more accurate as well. But I don't go around trashing the fighting games (for example) in their pages/threads simply for being fighting games. It's pointless. Also makes me an ass. And he really can't pull the "moral highground" card when he's ignoring another type of degeneracy just because he doesn't see it.

The classical rule of the internet was always: "if you don't like it, ignore it and move on." If you dislike it (ex. VN's), it's really not worth the time to trash it, and 90% of the time there's nothing you can do about it anyways. I just find it bizarre that some people choose this hill to die on when there's a lot more pressing concerns to be handled, both on GoG and IRL

Devs ultimately are the ones to be held accountable, whether for censorship or making games, at least that's how it is in the current set up.

As for retailers not wanting controversy, they're passing up an opportunity to stand out above their competition. Some sites at this point are known for being free speech zones for some of these games, but they're also notorious for untranslated versions, iirc. For me, that's not a problem. I got a PS4 for christmas, and i bought Final Fantasy XII and Final Fantasy 零式 (Final Fantasy Type-0) from play-asia.com just so i could have the original japanese versions so i'm not playing this stupid game of censorship, bad translations, etc. Unfortunately, not everyone is gifted with my abilities, so it's on behalf of these people i argue.

As for laws varying from country to country, the current solutions aren't working, so we need to actually develop a proper solution. But, we won't, so long as we're willing to cave all the time.

I normally don't care, but since there's the implication that people who might be interested in trying something are now buying what they think is uncensored, only to find out later that it is censored, i find that annoying ,especially when they can't even provide The Witcher (i understand it's a separate sister-company) in an all-ages version. It's blatant hypocrisy the moment they're making demands of devs. I'm really curious how this affects cyberpunk, as well. No sex will lead to a disappointed customer, but having sex in the game then releasing it on gog without requiring a de-censor patch will very, very likely result in the VN crowd exploding, and rightfully so.


I'm glad you see my point. That's funny, i see other people arguing that it does have cultural significance. Oh, it's from "their culture." Ok, so should we ban stuff from other cultures, too? Just because you see no value in that which is being censored doesn't mean that someone else doesn't. Who are you to say what does and does not have enough value to be banned? Give someone the power to censor what you don't like, and you will give them the same power to censor the things that you do like. Conservative Christians like myself are feeling this right now, hardcore, when i'm told I can't read my bible (to myself) in public institutions such as schools. Being threatened over my bible gave me a wakeup call that even degenerate stuff nees protected, because in the end, if it's not the thing government or whomever likes at the time, it's automatically degenerate. Loli, in theory, is child porn, but it's not really htat simple. And something isn't magically "loli" simply because something appears to depict minors. How old are these girls? Here's a hint, they're old enough to be worried about menopause. If they appeared in the nude, would it be "loli" or "child porn," or if they were drawn as a cartoon, would that apply? Their real age does come out in other pictures a little bit better, so you can say "but makeup," and i return with "and Japan is famous for it's makeup culture, and i imagine we should expect things from Japan to reflect that."


I can get behind that, but "we need better filters" is a far cry from "burn the loli that isn't even loli!!"

No, yuri is targeting a male audience in the same way that lesbian porn targets a male audience. Yaoi/BL targets a female audience (and I haven't seen any of that on here, not that I've been looking closely or that I'm saying that's what I want). All the yuri is 100% part of what I was including in my observation that it seems to be mostly male-targeted games. (That's not to say that all men like yuri. Again, I'm talking *target audience*, not the entirety of who enjoys the games.)

And I'm not saying that no females enjoy yuri or harem or male-aimed sexual games targeted at a male audience. Some do, sure. That doesn't mean they're made for women to enjoy.

Also, I think it's a little disingenuous to count Hatoful Boyfriend as otome. I see people classifying it as such often, and the thing is, it's really more of a parody of otome. The "hot guys" are birds and you can't do anything to make them not look like birds. The eye candy factor is removed. That doesn't mean it's not an interesting game or not worth playing, but it's clearly not a regular otome female-romance-fantasy game.

You didnt, Two lines are not a coherent argument.
And no, pixel art of small children is not Child porn and has newer been.
It has always been a figment of imaginiation or just Art.
Now, if somone are to use real pictures or photos or real models/people and draw after that and not the imagination/images that are clearly art, hen youre absolutly rigth.
Also, if you somehow identify yourself with unrealistic pixels Propotions then you probably have bigger issues than getting offended by digital art.

I would like a feature to block ignorant trolls like you - it's really some work to downvote all your stupid, empty and insulting postings (yes, calling people pedophiles IS an insult and against the forum rules) along with all your meaningless reviews (it's highly unlikely that you even played ONE of those games you "reviewed"). It's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it. With a bit of luck one day you will be a grown up with actual work and you simply won't have the time anymore to troll the forums. At least that's what I am hoping for. Some people really need to get a life ... or at least leave others alone.

I don't like it when people badmouth stuff without good reason(ing). Instead of trying to tear down the things that other people enjoy, I feel that LilTimmy should pour their energy into promoting the entertainment they think to be worthwhile.

Basically, preach for the stuff you love, don't diss other people for liking what they like.

You know, he may be a troll because of fake reviews or other shit, but you actually picked the one quote from him that makes a lot of sense. At least to me, because I would like to be able to filter out stuff I have no interest in, not to mention stuff that legit creeps me out. Yes, I get it, I'm a terrible person for thinking that games of obviously sexual nature with characters wearing school uniforms are creepy and I should be ashamed that such images aren't something I want to be greeted with when I log in. I would still like that option though, no matter how terrible it is of me, and I don't see how it would harm anyone. I have no objection to others using it to filter out everything BUT schoolgirl smut.

I just needed something to reply to to say my 2cts. Of course filters are always useful and practical. Did not want to say anything against filters. I also don't think that anybody (including you) who feels offended by those painted comic pics is a bad person, why should I? Live and let live. The only thing I dislike are people who are telling others what they are allowed to enjoy and what not. As long as nobody gets hurt imo such thinking is arrogant and ridiculous. You said that you don't mind others enjoying certain games but you would like to get an option for yourself to filter those out - so you're o.k. in my book (even though my opinion does not matter) :)

Not enjoying something isn't wrong nor terrible. However, forcing your preferences onto other people is when things become prickly.

Little Timmy is actively insulting people or posting reviews that have nothing to do with the actual quality or details of a game. Basically, he is mistreating others, and it is only natural to object against that.

Obviously hating and being negative simply is more fun to some people.

Yeah, no idea why that poster hasn't been banned yet: Owns no games, spams the review sections as well as the forum. And it's not like it's the first time either. Considering mods edit posts to remove words they deem "vulgar", here, they do absolutely nothing and users have to mark posts as spam again to get rid of them.