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Posted July 24, 2015
Greetings, Hunters!

<span class="bold">Victor Vran</span>, an action filled next step in aRPG design, is available now for Windows and Mac - complete with GOG Galaxy Achievements, DRM-free, and 10% off for the first week!

In a genre that's seen immense highs and extended lows, it seems that we're always waiting for the secret formula for the perfect action RPG. Some say it's all about an overwhelming amount of loot, upgrades and treats galore. Others choose to experiment with new and innovative ways to connect their players, or to give them new types of control over making their character one of a kind. Victor Vran brings its own answers to the table.

It's a game that places movement and action first, truly putting the "action" in the aRPG, eliminating the boundaries of a traditional class system, and opting for freeform gear-based progression. A combat-oriented approach doesn't mean that Victor Vran is lacking in the other departments either - there's plenty of loot to collect and increasingly awesome weapons to find (including what looks an awful lot like a lightsaber) as well as innovative character progression. All that's there, however, is enhanced by an unprecedented movement system that will have you (and up to 4 of your co-op buddies) leaping, dodging and wallrunning. It's a game where survival is based on so much more than how hard you can hit.



GOG.com Exclusive Bonus
For a little something special, your copy of the game will come with a one-time-use GOG.com-exclusive Treasure Key! Just log in to your GOG.com account, start your single-player game, and redeem it in-game for a fountain of gold and the following drops:

- Med Kit (Legendary) - An endless healing potion.
- Hope Destiny Card (Uncommon) - Provides additional health when equipped. Can be equipped on level 2.
- Diamond Demon Power (Uncommon) - Creates a protective shield. Can be equipped immediately.
- Gift Box - A box that can be opened for random loot.
- Red, Green and Blue dyes - Used to colorize your outfit. Transmutation unlocks at level 16.




Q&A With The Devs
Have questions about the game that only the devs can answer? Join the team behind Victor Vran for a special Q&A session this coming Monday!
Boyan (Lead Designer) and Momchil (Designer) from Haemimont Games will be visiting our forums on Monday (July 27) starting 6pm GMT (8pm CEST / 2pm EST / 11am PST to answer all your questions about the game, the life behind game development, or their favorite type of sandwich. Save the date, stay tuned for the announcement thread, and come hang out with us.


Experience the definition of "a" in aRPG with <span class="bold">Victor Vran</span>, DRM-free on GOG.com! The launch discount will last for one week, until Friday, July 31, at 9:59 AM GMT.
Posted July 25, 2015
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HijacK: Don't buy the game then, go to humble bundle instead maybe, cry in a corner if you have to, just don't come to me with nonsense like this is imposed drm or it is only 90% drm free as if the publisher is giving you meaningful content by authenticating the copy.

Sure, you voiced your choice and you vote with your wallet. So does everyone else. Looking at things only from a victim viewpoint weakens your argument though.
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LiefLayer: I want gog to be 100% drm-free.
I want to support this.
I don't want gog to be steam just because there are people like you that don't understand the importance of drm-free.
+1 from me. If GOG is not 100% DRM-free, I don't have a reason to buy here.
Posted July 25, 2015
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Senteria: So many pages. So if I summarize: People are angry because a dev included bonus content specifically for gog that gog buyers can get in their game. So if the devs didn't give any bonus content, nobody would care.
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lazydog: Not quite true.

The devs have included bonus content for gog that requires online aunthentication. Otherwise known as DRM.

That is what the shitstorm is about.

I personally believe Gog will keep chipping away at their stance on DRM, you can see from replies in this thread that some are OK with it.

It is seriously worrying.
For Race The Sun you also need to create an account to have access to certain functionalities like leaderboards and fan levels.
Witcher 3 did come with a Day1 activation which basically was a self-deactivating DRM. The Retail version is not even playable without this. Additionally the Wichter 3 collectors edition contained unlock codes for a free comic where I had to make an account on Darkhorse. And the comic isn't even DRM-free.
So objectively, Witcher 3 is "worse" in that regard.
Posted July 25, 2015
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LiefLayer: I listen the dev here on gog, not on steam.
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Piranjade: On stream, on the GOGcom twitch account right now, that's what I was talking about.
So...how are you doing today? =)
Posted July 25, 2015
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Piranjade: On stream, on the GOGcom twitch account right now, that's what I was talking about.
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CarrionCrow: So...how are you doing today? =)
I'm OK, thanks. I had a really good Ultima Underworld 1 stream earlier. That game still draws me in. It's soooo great. One of my absolute favourite games.
And how are you?
Post edited July 25, 2015 by Piranjade
Posted July 25, 2015
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throgh: Perhabs not the best wording from my side: Sorry! ;-) Last time I tried this out I needed some Triumph-account to be verified accessing my game - including the campaign and everything else. Perhabs this was changed or I got something wrong? Even it was not really usable under WINE for me that time, but that's another problem and should not be part of this discussion.
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BKGaming: Yea I think you are mistaken, as a lot of people are with this game. There was an apparent bug when the game released were you had trouble playing without an account. But this was fixed as far as I know in a patch.

Even a few reviews for the game list that the DRM talk isn't true that they played the game fully offline with no restrictions by playing in guest mode (which is the offline mode)...
Experience can tell you that no, you don't need an account whatsoever to enjoy everything except online multiplayer in AOW3. I've had the game since day 1 and didn't encounter the bug you mentioned either :\
A handy tip, just run the game, not the launcher. It makes things those few precious seconds quicker.
Posted July 25, 2015
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BKGaming: Yea I think you are mistaken, as a lot of people are with this game. There was an apparent bug when the game released were you had trouble playing without an account. But this was fixed as far as I know in a patch.

Even a few reviews for the game list that the DRM talk isn't true that they played the game fully offline with no restrictions by playing in guest mode (which is the offline mode)...
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micktiegs_8: Experience can tell you that no, you don't need an account whatsoever to enjoy everything except online multiplayer in AOW3. I've had the game since day 1 and didn't encounter the bug you mentioned either :\
A handy tip, just run the game, not the launcher. It makes things those few precious seconds quicker.
Well I don't know. I just know that games gets thrown around a lot when DRM is brought up on GOG and I really can't see why. I read though when the game first released there was issues with saving and accessing the DLC offline... no idea.
Posted July 25, 2015
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LiefLayer: I want gog to be 100% drm-free.
I want to support this.
I don't want gog to be steam just because there are people like you that don't understand the importance of drm-free.
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mattymuc: +1 from me. If GOG is not 100% DRM-free, I don't have a reason to buy here.
I feel like that too. I do pay more sometimes for DRMFREE, but I'm happy to do that. If I cannot get DRMFREE then I'll just go for the lowest price anywhere as digital content is a worthless copy stored in some cloudy place with a dodgy EULA and no ownership on my part.
Posted July 25, 2015
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lazydog: Not quite true.

The devs have included bonus content for gog that requires online aunthentication. Otherwise known as DRM.

That is what the shitstorm is about.

I personally believe Gog will keep chipping away at their stance on DRM, you can see from replies in this thread that some are OK with it.

It is seriously worrying.
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8BitChris: For Race The Sun you also need to create an account to have access to certain functionalities like leaderboards and fan levels.
Witcher 3 did come with a Day1 activation which basically was a self-deactivating DRM. The Retail version is not even playable without this. Additionally the Wichter 3 collectors edition contained unlock codes for a free comic where I had to make an account on Darkhorse. And the comic isn't even DRM-free.
So objectively, Witcher 3 is "worse" in that regard.
Race the sun would give you different levels daily, although not dramatic; the levels would be the same if there was no internet connection. So, it would be a very drab experience without logging in for that game.
edit: not talking about the fan made levels, but the core levels.
Post edited July 25, 2015 by micktiegs_8
Posted July 25, 2015
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micktiegs_8: Race the sun would give you different levels daily, although not dramatic; the levels would be the same if there was no internet connection. So, it would be a very drab experience without logging in for that game.
edit: not talking about the fan made levels, but the core levels.
Nope, even if you play Race The Sun offline, the levels change each day.
Posted July 25, 2015
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LiefLayer: I want gog to be 100% drm-free.
I want to support this.
I don't want gog to be steam just because there are people like you that don't understand the importance of drm-free.
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mattymuc: +1 from me. If GOG is not 100% DRM-free, I don't have a reason to buy here.
Then you are in for a nasty surprise, almost every GOG game with Internet server multiplayer features (not talking about direct player connection) require some form of DRM to use those features.

This time around the argument was that a certain optional single player feature requires DRM. I think Senteria is right that if this wasn't offered at all there wouldn't be such complaints and people are also right that say if this was offered without DRM there also wouldn't be complaints, as these 2 statements aren't exclusive, they both can be true at the same time.

You can chose to ignore that optional content just like I chose not to play multiplayer if it requires DRM. I'm still happy with GOG because it provides most of the content I care about in a DRM-free form.
Posted July 25, 2015
It's rather simple for me. If I can play said game offline in single player and experience it fully with all of it's content without restictions and I can install it or copy it as many times as I want then the game is DRM free to me.


Everything else is just fluff that really doesn't matter... call me when the release a game with locked content then I'll raise the pitchforks. ;)
Posted July 25, 2015
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CarrionCrow: So...how are you doing today? =)
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Piranjade: I'm OK, thanks. I had a really good Ultima Underworld 1 stream earlier. That game still draws me in. It's soooo great. One of my absolute favourite games.
And how are you?
Still need to play that one. (Along with a few hundred others.)

Can't complain here, just typing away in between enjoying a game.
Posted July 25, 2015
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lazydog: Not quite true.

The devs have included bonus content for gog that requires online aunthentication. Otherwise known as DRM.

That is what the shitstorm is about.

I personally believe Gog will keep chipping away at their stance on DRM, you can see from replies in this thread that some are OK with it.

It is seriously worrying.
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8BitChris: For Race The Sun you also need to create an account to have access to certain functionalities like leaderboards and fan levels.
Witcher 3 did come with a Day1 activation which basically was a self-deactivating DRM. The Retail version is not even playable without this. Additionally the Wichter 3 collectors edition contained unlock codes for a free comic where I had to make an account on Darkhorse. And the comic isn't even DRM-free.
So objectively, Witcher 3 is "worse" in that regard.
I know nothing of Race for the Sun so can't comment.

As for the Witcher 3, the same applies.

Self deactivating DRM? I don't get it and I certainly won't buy it.

Also nobody gets a free lunch and gamers need to wake up and accept this.

Meanwhile Gog starts to smell like awfully like steam.
Posted July 25, 2015
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BKGaming: It's rather simple for me. If I can play said game offline in single player and experience it fully with all of it's content without restictions and I can install it or copy it as many times as I want then the game is DRM free to me.

Everything else is just fluff that really doesn't matter... call me when the release a game with locked content then I'll raise the pitchforks. ;)
Couldn't agree more on this.

If I knew the items were already available in game I wouldn't have got angry at all. Partially I blame the poor description in the announcement.

I'll hand over the money as soon as the Linux version hits. If I can't get to play Metro, at least I'll have this :-)
Posted July 25, 2015
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lazydog: Self deactivating DRM? I don't get it and I certainly won't buy it.
This was only for the pre-load, you can't do a pre-load without locking the game since your downloading it before release. There was no DRM, they simply didn't provide a full game and left a small bit out until release day.

The game is fully DRM free...
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