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Posted July 24, 2015
Greetings, Hunters!

<span class="bold">Victor Vran</span>, an action filled next step in aRPG design, is available now for Windows and Mac - complete with GOG Galaxy Achievements, DRM-free, and 10% off for the first week!

In a genre that's seen immense highs and extended lows, it seems that we're always waiting for the secret formula for the perfect action RPG. Some say it's all about an overwhelming amount of loot, upgrades and treats galore. Others choose to experiment with new and innovative ways to connect their players, or to give them new types of control over making their character one of a kind. Victor Vran brings its own answers to the table.

It's a game that places movement and action first, truly putting the "action" in the aRPG, eliminating the boundaries of a traditional class system, and opting for freeform gear-based progression. A combat-oriented approach doesn't mean that Victor Vran is lacking in the other departments either - there's plenty of loot to collect and increasingly awesome weapons to find (including what looks an awful lot like a lightsaber) as well as innovative character progression. All that's there, however, is enhanced by an unprecedented movement system that will have you (and up to 4 of your co-op buddies) leaping, dodging and wallrunning. It's a game where survival is based on so much more than how hard you can hit.



GOG.com Exclusive Bonus
For a little something special, your copy of the game will come with a one-time-use GOG.com-exclusive Treasure Key! Just log in to your GOG.com account, start your single-player game, and redeem it in-game for a fountain of gold and the following drops:

- Med Kit (Legendary) - An endless healing potion.
- Hope Destiny Card (Uncommon) - Provides additional health when equipped. Can be equipped on level 2.
- Diamond Demon Power (Uncommon) - Creates a protective shield. Can be equipped immediately.
- Gift Box - A box that can be opened for random loot.
- Red, Green and Blue dyes - Used to colorize your outfit. Transmutation unlocks at level 16.




Q&A With The Devs
Have questions about the game that only the devs can answer? Join the team behind Victor Vran for a special Q&A session this coming Monday!
Boyan (Lead Designer) and Momchil (Designer) from Haemimont Games will be visiting our forums on Monday (July 27) starting 6pm GMT (8pm CEST / 2pm EST / 11am PST to answer all your questions about the game, the life behind game development, or their favorite type of sandwich. Save the date, stay tuned for the announcement thread, and come hang out with us.


Experience the definition of "a" in aRPG with <span class="bold">Victor Vran</span>, DRM-free on GOG.com! The launch discount will last for one week, until Friday, July 31, at 9:59 AM GMT.
Posted July 24, 2015
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d2t: and yet the majority of linux users complain across 20 pages how gog introduces drm because of some cheat code requiring logging into the game instead of complaining about gog not having the game in the first place?
i don't get your point. the lack of the linux version was pointed out several times early on. and nobody ever argued that the missing linux version is "not an issue".
So there is simply no need to spend 20 pages arguing about that, right?
Posted July 24, 2015
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throgh: Seriously? Did I missed some kind of arguments? There is a Linux-version, a native one and you think the people should not complain about it? This is not a problem of GOG for the moment but the developer and publisher should also hear / read the criticism. Perhabs it could be easier for the GOG-team getting the whole content here.
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Piranjade: The dev just said on stream that the Linux version is coming. :-)
Than we have just one less problem to think about. :D
Posted July 24, 2015
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Ritualisto: Game is available for Linux on Steam.
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d2t: and yet the majority of linux users complain across 20 pages how gog introduces drm because of some cheat code requiring logging into the game instead of complaining about gog not having the game in the first place?

interesting logic guys
I'll try and generalize as well as you ....

Windows users aren't complaining about DRM, because the fact that they use a DRM'd OS shows that they are OK with DRM.
Posted July 24, 2015
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shmerl: So, in order for #4 to change, GOG needs to grow. Then developers will treat GOG releases as a first class citizen.
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BKGaming: Which won't happen when we all argue of insignificant stuff like a bonus "cheat"... just saying.
That depends. You can also say we shouldn't argue about DRM, since with DRM GOG would balloon in size. However if it touches some core values it's a different story.
Posted July 24, 2015
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shmerl: So, in order for #4 to change, GOG needs to grow. Then developers will treat GOG releases as a first class citizen.
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BKGaming: Which won't happen when we all argue of insignificant stuff like a bonus "cheat"... just saying.
Okay, but we all have some kind of problem with DRM-features and that is why this discussion started and is on-going for the moment. There are more games with this kind of issues, just to mention "Age of Wonders 3".
Posted July 24, 2015
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d2t: did anyone else noticed how many of vocal complainers about this game (if not majority?) are linux folks? just compare it to any linux topic on gog. rather interesting considering that the game is not even available on that platform and the platform is likely a fraction of osx userbase from gog perspective.

if my memory serves me well it was the same with the installers butthurt this or last year.

anyhow, seems that either linux users perception of gog and drm is vastly different from majority of the gog userbase or there is something very funny going on here
I don't think it's surprising at all. I think one of the reasons many Linux users like Linux is because it is DRM free. I'll admit to liking the price of Linux, but it's also about Microsoft's use of DRM. I've seen too many legitimate clients go through activation issues with their purchases due to DRM. Office 2013 has been a nightmare. I switch to OpenOffice years ago, and now I'm on LibreOffice, and I have no regrets about dumping Office.

My main computer is Windows 7. There are some programs I run that are Windows only. There are also games I play that are Windows only, some of which require Steam. My HTPC is Windows because of Bluray and Netflix. That still doesn't change the fact that I prefer to spend my money on DRM free titles, and when possible, also support Linux. My other two computers, laptop, netbook, game server and file server run Linux. Even my firewall is Linux based.

I do buy Windows only games, but when there is a Linux version available, it should be provided. I do buy some games that use Steam or even Origin, but I only buy them when they are really cheap and I know they aren't stating they are DRM free. I still won't buy games on Steam that use additional DRM like securerom or online activation. I don't think I will ever play GTA 4 or 5 with its multiple DRM schemes.

Maybe the Windows/Steam lovers have the wrong view.

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BKGaming: Which won't happen when we all argue of insignificant stuff like a bonus "cheat"... just saying.
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throgh: Okay, but we all have some kind of problem with DRM-features and that is why this discussion started and is on-going for the moment. There are more games with this kind of issues, just to mention "Age of Wonders 3".
I've wanted to buy Age of Wonders 3 many times and during many sales, but the DRM issue has kept me from it.
Post edited July 24, 2015 by jalister
Posted July 24, 2015
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d2t: and yet the majority of linux users complain across 20 pages how gog introduces drm because of some cheat code requiring logging into the game instead of complaining about gog not having the game in the first place?

interesting logic guys
Did you read the first two pages of this thread? Lots of people asking about the Linux version. And someone involved with the game already stated they need more time to work on it, so not much to discuss there.
Posted July 24, 2015
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BKGaming: Which won't happen when we all argue of insignificant stuff like a bonus "cheat"... just saying.
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shmerl: That depends. You can also say we shouldn't argue about DRM, since with DRM GOG would balloon in size. However if it touches some core values it's a different story.
Not saying we shouldn't argue about DRM, just only when it's really DRM. It's hard sell claiming this DRM no matter how you spin it. Don't agree with the way it's done... that's fine, but let's direct the DRM argument to the games the really deserve it, because this is far from that.
Posted July 24, 2015
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jalister: I've wanted to buy Age of Wonders 3 many times and during many sales, but the DRM issue has kept me from it.
And attitude of AOW3 developers towards GOG releases in general (especially Linux one) made me lose all interest in their games.
Post edited July 24, 2015 by shmerl
Posted July 24, 2015
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d2t: did anyone else noticed how many of vocal complainers about this game (if not majority?) are linux folks? just compare it to any linux topic on gog. rather interesting considering that the game is not even available on that platform and the platform is likely a fraction of osx userbase from gog perspective.

if my memory serves me well it was the same with the installers butthurt this or last year.

anyhow, seems that either linux users perception of gog and drm is vastly different from majority of the gog userbase or there is something very funny going on here
I use OSX.
but I like to chooise where I want to game... I can use windows or linux if I want, so I support cross-platform games and I support a release for linux (I use OSX now, I had used windows and linux in the past, I don't know if I will use osx tomorrow)...

But you know "many of vocal complainers about this game" complain about DRM (not linux release)...
Posted July 24, 2015
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BKGaming: Which won't happen when we all argue of insignificant stuff like a bonus "cheat"... just saying.
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throgh: Okay, but we all have some kind of problem with DRM-features and that is why this discussion started and is on-going for the moment. There are more games with this kind of issues, just to mention "Age of Wonders 3".
What DRM issue? I don't own AOW3... but from my understanding it has a full offline mode that can be played with no restrictions, expect for a bug that was there when the game first released.
Posted July 24, 2015
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jalister: Sigh. It really is starting to look the GOG is dropping the Linux ball a lot lately. I know it may be the fault of the developer or publisher, but maybe GOG could put more into getting those versions here.
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ricki42: See my post above. The developers are working on a Steam-free version.

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jalister: There have been a lot of games that wanted in on the Humble Indie Bundles that debuted their Mac and Linux versions so they could take part. The Humble Indie Bundles are required to be DRM free, and to provide versions for Windows, Mac and Linux.
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ricki42: Games usually aren't on Humble Bundle on release day though. It's difficult, if GOG refuses to sell it until the Linux version is ready, they'll have the game late and likely lose Windows sales. And the devs don't want to delay because they need to be paid, especially smaller indies often can't just put off release. So it really sucks that Linux always falls between the cracks, but in this case, the devs have been very good about supporting Linux on Steam, and they seem to be working on getting it on GOG as well. So I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt (for now).
I"m ok with Linux coming late. I realize that Linux is still the smallest percentage of sales. However, if a game is available for Linux and the game comes to GOG, the Linux version should come with it. If it can't make it on the same day the Windows versions is released, then at least make it very clear that the Linux, or Mac, version will be coming along. Metro Last Light Redux has been here for a little while now. Where are the Mac and Linux versions?
Posted July 25, 2015
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jalister: The bonus content for this game requires authentication to receive the content. What happens if I activate the content, and my hard drive decides to crash a few minutes later. Now I go back to my backup, and install the game again. That bonus content is now gone.

Logging in to a store to download what I purchased is like a key to protect the seller.

Logging in to a service to activate content is like a key to protect the seller. What happens when I knock on the door and nobody is home.
The bolded part of your response is outright false. The 'content' is already in the game. If you activate the content and the hard drive crashes, when you reinstall the game the content will still be there, you will just not get it as soon as you launch the game.

You are arguing that because there is a cheat code or extra content or anything like that, you should be entitled to it as many times as you want when the developer specifically only wants it used once, whether it's DRM-free or not.
Post edited July 25, 2015 by synfresh
Posted July 25, 2015
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shmerl: And attitude of AOW3 developers towards GOG releases in general (especially Linux one) made me lose all interest in their games.
I remember them saying they were holding back the Mac/Linux versions of AOW3 for GOG customers and that they "valued their customers equally".... hilarious.

Not giving them any more money.
Posted July 25, 2015
So many pages. So if I summarize: People are angry because a dev included bonus content specifically for gog that gog buyers can get in their game. So if the devs didn't give any bonus content, nobody would care.
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