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Posted July 24, 2015
Greetings, Hunters!

<span class="bold">Victor Vran</span>, an action filled next step in aRPG design, is available now for Windows and Mac - complete with GOG Galaxy Achievements, DRM-free, and 10% off for the first week!

In a genre that's seen immense highs and extended lows, it seems that we're always waiting for the secret formula for the perfect action RPG. Some say it's all about an overwhelming amount of loot, upgrades and treats galore. Others choose to experiment with new and innovative ways to connect their players, or to give them new types of control over making their character one of a kind. Victor Vran brings its own answers to the table.

It's a game that places movement and action first, truly putting the "action" in the aRPG, eliminating the boundaries of a traditional class system, and opting for freeform gear-based progression. A combat-oriented approach doesn't mean that Victor Vran is lacking in the other departments either - there's plenty of loot to collect and increasingly awesome weapons to find (including what looks an awful lot like a lightsaber) as well as innovative character progression. All that's there, however, is enhanced by an unprecedented movement system that will have you (and up to 4 of your co-op buddies) leaping, dodging and wallrunning. It's a game where survival is based on so much more than how hard you can hit.



GOG.com Exclusive Bonus
For a little something special, your copy of the game will come with a one-time-use GOG.com-exclusive Treasure Key! Just log in to your GOG.com account, start your single-player game, and redeem it in-game for a fountain of gold and the following drops:

- Med Kit (Legendary) - An endless healing potion.
- Hope Destiny Card (Uncommon) - Provides additional health when equipped. Can be equipped on level 2.
- Diamond Demon Power (Uncommon) - Creates a protective shield. Can be equipped immediately.
- Gift Box - A box that can be opened for random loot.
- Red, Green and Blue dyes - Used to colorize your outfit. Transmutation unlocks at level 16.




Q&A With The Devs
Have questions about the game that only the devs can answer? Join the team behind Victor Vran for a special Q&A session this coming Monday!
Boyan (Lead Designer) and Momchil (Designer) from Haemimont Games will be visiting our forums on Monday (July 27) starting 6pm GMT (8pm CEST / 2pm EST / 11am PST to answer all your questions about the game, the life behind game development, or their favorite type of sandwich. Save the date, stay tuned for the announcement thread, and come hang out with us.


Experience the definition of "a" in aRPG with <span class="bold">Victor Vran</span>, DRM-free on GOG.com! The launch discount will last for one week, until Friday, July 31, at 9:59 AM GMT.
Posted July 24, 2015
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DeathDiciple: Bring secuROM to GOG because devs can't be expected to make proper DRM-Free build. Gotcha.
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synfresh: It is DRM-Free. Ask yourself if the exclusive content is required to play the game then come back to me. If something like this is required to you, then I guess something like GoG Galaxy would be required for you.
The exclusive content is not DRM free. You just admitted so.
Posted July 24, 2015
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synfresh: But you see, a lot of GoG users also want things like exclusive content not available everywhere else. You can't have it both ways.
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shmerl: I'm personally against exclusive content. It's not nasty as DRM, but it's not respectful for other users. However using any DRM to enforce the exclusivity is already unacceptable.
Who are the users who have grown gog? Those who believed in the policy drm-free.
If those users faithful leave, will remain the users of steam ... ok, well then all we buy directly from steam.
Posted July 24, 2015
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shmerl: No dev should make add-ons which require authentication every time you play. They can charge for add-ons in the store (GOG, Steam, whatever).

Since it happens here, I won't be buying this game really.
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synfresh: Didn't Gog just say it was a one time authentication, not every time you play?
Hm, that sounds better. and it can be seen as a direct purchase from developer. The problem is, it still ties installation to availability of their service. I.e. you don't have an easy DRM-free backup after you bought the game on GOG. Or can you achieve it after first authentication?
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Posted July 24, 2015
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synfresh: It is DRM-Free. Ask yourself if the exclusive content is required to play the game then come back to me. If something like this is required to you, then I guess something like GoG Galaxy would be required for you.
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barleyguy: The exclusive content is not DRM free. You just admitted so.
I said the content is not required whether you think it's DRM or not. That doesn't make the game itself DRM.
Posted July 24, 2015
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LiefLayer: I do not want this game on gog if it has DRM.
They could do a code that always work, without having to log in if they wanted to make a game drm-free.

If I can not trust gog, might as well buy on steam (not this game of course).
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synfresh: No dev is going to do this when they are selling this game at other distributors, this isn't a GoG exclusive game. They are not going to make a special build for GoG, which is basically what your asking.
1) Actually, many devs have done exactly that.

2) If the devs are not interested enough to make a DRM-free build, then I'm not interested enough in their games. DRM-free is a necessary game feature, for me, just like some people only play platformers or shooters.

It's OK for GOG to not have every game. It's even OK for GOG to miss many good games! It's not OK for GOG to claim that games with DRM are DRM-free.
Posted July 24, 2015
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shmerl: No dev should make add-ons which require authentication every time you play. They can charge for add-ons in the store (GOG, Steam, whatever).

Since it happens here, I won't be buying this game really.
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synfresh: Didn't Gog just say it was a one time authentication, not every time you play?
still drm. like torchlight 2 drm.
Posted July 24, 2015
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One time authentication is still one time too many, no thanks.
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synfresh: Didn't Gog just say it was a one time authentication, not every time you play?
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shmerl: Hm, that sounds better. and it can be seen as a direct purchase from developer. The problem is, it still ties installation to availability of their service. I.e. you don't have an easy DRM-free backup after you bought the game on GOG. Or can you achieve it after first authentication?
If you pull the extra content into the game and then back that game up, I don't see why it still wouldn't be there if what GoG says is true (one-time). I still don't see how that makes the game all of a sudden DRM.
Posted July 24, 2015
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adamhm: I am also concerned by this ... if the extra stuff is for single player only then why require online authentication for it?
for the same reason you have to authenticate on the gog website or in their client to download free dlc for the witcher 3 which is also a single player game....

are you really offended with game developer rewarding legal owners of the game with some extra downloadable items which in no way are required to play or complete the game?
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synfresh: No dev is going to do this when they are selling this game at other distributors, this isn't a GoG exclusive game. They are not going to make a special build for GoG, which is basically what your asking.
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Gilozard: 1) Actually, many devs have done exactly that.

2) If the devs are not interested enough to make a DRM-free build, then I'm not interested enough in their games. DRM-free is a necessary game feature, for me, just like some people only play platformers or shooters.

It's OK for GOG to not have every game. It's even OK for GOG to miss many good games! It's not OK for GOG to claim that games with DRM are DRM-free.
Totally agree. When I joined GOG they only had a handful of Interplay games. I was still excited that somebody was selling games without DRM. I'd rather have less games, with no DRM on any of the content, than have this turn into another dumping ground.
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synfresh: No dev is going to do this when they are selling this game at other distributors, this isn't a GoG exclusive game. They are not going to make a special build for GoG, which is basically what your asking.
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Gilozard: 1) Actually, many devs have done exactly that.

2) If the devs are not interested enough to make a DRM-free build, then I'm not interested enough in their games. DRM-free is a necessary game feature, for me, just like some people only play platformers or shooters.

It's OK for GOG to not have every game. It's even OK for GOG to miss many good games! It's not OK for GOG to claim that games with DRM are DRM-free.
What game had exclusive content in game that was exclusive to GoG?
Posted July 24, 2015
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Some people call this a review ?

Heads-Up: Online and Galaxy Required, Not DRM-free by
Gilozard

Bluetext: "The key is a one-time-use deal, so you do have to be logged in to your GOG.com account to redeem it." https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_victor_vran_92633/post52

User Randoo: "btw, you have to log in once again in the game even when starting the game from galaxy." https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_victor_vran_92633/post53

So the game requires a GOG login just to play, and the special GOG bonus key has to be redeemed online. This game isn't DRM-free at all.
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Watch this instead : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC8UfgD_jcc
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Posted July 24, 2015
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So :
*online to redeem
*then, login to redeem

(with create account it ask for a serial)
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Gilozard: When a DRM-free store is specifically advertising a feature, and then it turns out that feature requires online DRM, many users will rightfully get angry.

GOG keeps pulling this crap lately, and it's not OK. If I was willing to put up with online DRM, I'd just buy games from Steam.
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synfresh: How exactly do you expect this stuff to work without some sort of authentication feature? You think the dev is going to go out of their way to actually code all this extra stuff in the game and then make a special GoG build that includes it? That's not realistic.
One way that could be done is to give all GOG purchases a unique code. Then have a spot in the game to enter that code to unlock the content. That could be done offline without DRM. I've seen in it done for some Kickstarter bonuses in games.
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adamhm: I am also concerned by this ... if the extra stuff is for single player only then why require online authentication for it?
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d2t: for the same reason you have to authenticate on the gog website or in their client to download free dlc for the witcher 3 which is also a single player game....

are you really offended with game developer rewarding legal owners of the game with some extra downloadable items which in no way are required to play or complete the game?
100%. They did the exact same thing with Witcher 3 and everyone defended that because it was Witcher?
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