Oh god YES!

[url=]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWoyTD27kFs[/url]

replace ravioli with VTM:BL

That iz Vonderful!

Sorry if this has been asked, but out of curiosity, do any of these games connect in any way?

Only in as much as they take place in the same universe AFAIK.

I think most people don't complain about the asking price but they would have expected at least a little release discount. ;)

And unfortunately the GOG version has one huge downside - it's only available in english while the Steam and retail-versions are also available in german and french.

We need a working emulator for older windows versions - some sort of WINBox I mean. I think I would buy this game as well, your feedback fits my first impression. Seems to be a forgotten gem.

Wow! That's awesome news. It's one of the best RPGs ever made and besides Age of Decadence no better games has been released since then (IMO). Definitely worth that price.

Nice! Good thing I never bought this on Steam!

Sorry son, unlike the World of Darkness MMO which planned to add gay-bars into the game world and got cancelled, the clubs in both redemption and bloodlines are normal ones. I really doubt you should be wanting to buy them.

Haha, yeah, very difficult to find a game to compare it to. It's the kind of game where you run around for a while, talk to people, figure things out, get into trouble, and praise yourself for getting out of it in one piece. And then after a few hours you happen on a segment that looks a bit of out of place. And you realize it appears out of place because it looks like something that resembles an actual videogame. And then you're back on track.

It's very odd, for a game. Very careful writing, that strikes some curious balance between being easy to digest while also being very compact. Scripting in general tends to be linear, in spite of things, but you run into alternate paths and side-dishes so often that you very rarely feel like the outcome is set. And it usually isn't, there's always some twist at the end that isn't telegraphed, so your choices tend to be important. But the most impressive part of the writing is that when you run into alternate paths, either from player choice or from vampire clan affiliation, you often don't notice that you were entering the segment at a different angle from a mechanical viewpoint. Or, you could play through a segment/quest that had several alternative paths and never get to the "choose a or b" style critical points, and simply believe that you were playing the segment in the one way it was supposed to go.

So while the narrative isn't extremely interactive, where it succeeds so well is where your character and your choices are reflected in what other characters say, etc., without becoming generic and predetermined. And that's what makes the atmosphere so solid, that you're not playing a faceless vampire fledgeling with different skins, but get enough input to almost always believe that your character exists. Or, it's not immediately awesome to you as a player, how much work went into this, but it does wonders for the suspension of disbelief. It's much better crafted than people give it credit for - even before the patches, you would of course see some inconsistency and react to it. But then miss all the hundred other times where everything fit together perfectly. There's basically more writing in any sidequest than Fallout 3 has throughout the entire game.

I mean, you're always apprehensive about games that are heavy on the story-telling, because you imagine a lot of filler and weird isolated segments that have no relation to each other. That tire you out, break up the pacing badly, or doesn't seem worth the investment, and it just demands too much of you at every point for you to immerse yourself in it. A lot of people prefer story-less games because of that, so they don't have to sit and concentrate heavily on every line to figure out if you should bother to taking notice. You know, "what sort of random arbitrary story do I have to suffer through now to get to the interesting parts". So when you run into something like Bloodlines it's ok to say it's a unique achievement, because it's not an exaggeration.

It's been called the best introduction ever made to the World of Darkness, which it probably is. But it stands on it's own as a very good story as well.

Sorry Bradley, but I refuse to get into a battle of the wits with an unarmed man.

You are on your own here.

But, will you thumb wrestle a man with a hook hand? ;)