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Help Relia ascend a dangerous spire and attain the wish-granting magic to save her sister.
Genre: Adventure, RPG
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Warning: adult content
My biggest issue with this is that this looks like it was made with RPG Maker, which is my absolute least liked game engine. I've yet to play anything made with it that I actually enjoyed. I really do wish that if GOG is going to release more perv games that they'd at least release perv games made with something other than RPG Maker.
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Catventurer: My biggest issue with this is that this looks like it was made with RPG Maker, which is my absolute least liked game engine. I've yet to play anything made with it that I actually enjoyed. I really do wish that if GOG is going to release more perv games that they'd at least release perv games made with something other than RPG Maker.
Most Kagura Games publications are [DULL SURPRISE!] made in RPG Maker; endemically.

Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins? RPG Maker, and obviously so.
Treasure Hunter Claire? Not even barely disguised.
Leanna's Slice of Life? They don't even box in the interiors correctly. Yes.
Detective Girl of the Steam City? Vaguely disguised, falls apart in outdoor scenes and menus.
Ideology in Friction? Couldn't even bother to switch from a default typeface or menus.
Chevalier Historie? Surprise! It might be RPGmaker adjacent, but I don't recall action RPGs being possible.
Kamikaze Kommittee Ouka 2? Yep. Though the dev did actually put some flourish on it.
The Heart of Darkness? Yes. One of the screenshots gives it away, but they tried to disguise it.
The Demon Lord is New in Town! ? Probably not. Looks more like Ren'Py.
Magical Girl Celesphonia? Yes, and there's a pretty obvious drop in asset quality between game modes.
The Imperial Gatekeeper? Yes, but they go to great lengths to hide it. The assets are a dead ringer.
Sonia and the Hypnotic City? Yep. The city's tileset poorly melds into a natural cohesive artstyle.
The Dead End? Yes, but they splurged a little on features.
Noelle Does Her Best!? Obviously. Doesn't even star a reindeer from a surface town. More baffling, the pixel art used on these characters. It's bright and colorful, but clashes with the rest of the Kaguro catalogue.
Succubus x Saint? Pretty sure, but could be engine adjacent.
Magna Fortuna? Yes, and they don't even try to hide the tileset.
Kung Fu Grand King? Yes, and worse still, I can't tell if the screenshots are the game window or not. Weirdly, the characters sport a pixel art style in game, which clashes with the ultra-anime portraits.
Apostle: Rebellion? No. It's also the nearest thing in the Kagonza's catalogue that almost doesn't look like trash.
Castaway of the Ardusta Sea? Yes. Battle menus give it away.
Knights of Messiah? Yes. Menu typefaces give it away.
Serafina and the Key to the Egg? Unsure. I was more distracted by the Saberface on display. (IE, they look like ripped off Type:Moon designs.) And how the quality jarringly changes for the guard. I'm thinking yes. (Shop menu.)
The Triumphant Return of Diabolos? Yeah. It's very obvious. They didn't even disguise the chest.
Dungeon Town? No. Too bad about the incompetent artstyle that reminds me of early Touhou doujins.
Ambrosia? Yep. Doesn't even try to disguise itself. The faded pupils are a nice alarming touch.
Lelie Navigation!? Shrug. If it is, they did a good job hiding it. Possibly engine adjacent.
Summer Memories? No. It actually looks competent. Shame about that one review pointing out this might be shota.
Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins? Default assets, thy name is Fallen Makina.

So yeah. A lot of the games they publish overwhelmingly use it or cheap premade assets which look damn well like it. Many of their overworld characters aren't even 8x16 in proportions; so even though many of them might have more colors than a SNES game, they end up looking worse.
Post edited September 27, 2022 by Darvond
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Catventurer: My biggest issue with this is that this looks like it was made with RPG Maker, which is my absolute least liked game engine. I've yet to play anything made with it that I actually enjoyed. I really do wish that if GOG is going to release more perv games that they'd at least release perv games made with something other than RPG Maker.
One doesn't preclude the other, as with other games it simply depends on the deals GoG makes.
This one is with Kagura games, and yeah Kagura games generally either use RPG Maker or Wolf RPG Engine.
Post edited September 27, 2022 by Reaper9988
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Catventurer: My biggest issue with this is that this looks like it was made with RPG Maker, which is my absolute least liked game engine. I've yet to play anything made with it that I actually enjoyed. I really do wish that if GOG is going to release more perv games that they'd at least release perv games made with something other than RPG Maker.
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Darvond: Most Kagura Games publications are [DULL SURPRISE!] made in RPG Maker; endemically.

Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins? RPG Maker, and obviously so.
Treasure Hunter Claire? Not even barely disguised.
Leanna's Slice of Life? They don't even box in the interiors correctly. Yes.
Detective Girl of the Steam City? Vaguely disguised, falls apart in outdoor scenes and menus.
Ideology in Friction? Couldn't even bother to switch from a default typeface or menus.
Chevalier Historie? Surprise! It might be RPGmaker adjacent, but I don't recall action RPGs being possible.
Kamikaze Kommittee Ouka 2? Yep. Though the dev did actually put some flourish on it.
The Heart of Darkness? Yes. One of the screenshots gives it away, but they tried to disguise it.
The Demon Lord is New in Town! ? Probably not. Looks more like Ren'Py.
Magical Girl Celesphonia? Yes, and there's a pretty obvious drop in asset quality between game modes.
The Imperial Gatekeeper? Yes, but they go to great lengths to hide it. The assets are a dead ringer.
Sonia and the Hypnotic City? Yep. The city's tileset poorly melds into a natural cohesive artstyle.
The Dead End? Yes, but they splurged a little on features.
Noelle Does Her Best!? Obviously. Doesn't even star a reindeer from a surface town. More baffling, the pixel art used on these characters. It's bright and colorful, but clashes with the rest of the Kaguro catalogue.
Succubus x Saint? Pretty sure, but could be engine adjacent.
Magna Fortuna? Yes, and they don't even try to hide the tileset.
Kung Fu Grand King? Yes, and worse still, I can't tell if the screenshots are the game window or not. Weirdly, the characters sport a pixel art style in game, which clashes with the ultra-anime portraits.
Apostle: Rebellion? No. It's also the nearest thing in the Kagonza's catalogue that almost doesn't look like trash.
Castaway of the Ardusta Sea? Yes. Battle menus give it away.
Knights of Messiah? Yes. Menu typefaces give it away.
Serafina and the Key to the Egg? Unsure. I was more distracted by the Saberface on display. (IE, they look like ripped off Type:Moon designs.) And how the quality jarringly changes for the guard. I'm thinking yes. (Shop menu.)
The Triumphant Return of Diabolos? Yeah. It's very obvious. They didn't even disguise the chest.
Dungeon Town? No. Too bad about the incompetent artstyle that reminds me of early Touhou doujins.
Ambrosia? Yep. Doesn't even try to disguise itself. The faded pupils are a nice alarming touch.
Lelie Navigation!? Shrug. If it is, they did a good job hiding it. Possibly engine adjacent.
Summer Memories? No. It actually looks competent. Shame about that one review pointing out this might be shota.
Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins? Default assets, thy name is Fallen Makina.

So yeah. A lot of the games they publish overwhelmingly use it or cheap premade assets which look damn well like it. Many of their overworld characters aren't even 8x16 in proportions; so even though many of them might have more colors than a SNES game, they end up looking worse.
Apostle: Rebellion almost doesn't look like trash? Are you here just trying to start shit now, mate? Look here. Some people happen to like these RPG Maker games and there have been several horror ones like The Witch's House, Ib and Mad Father which are praised in the genre. I get that you don't like these games, but you're starting to sound like a whiny keyboard warrior now and it's pathetic. Dial it back a little, you're starting to sound like a pretentious hipster elitist who thinks that "people have to only like what I like" and no one gets to disagree with you. I'm sick of it.

And some people like shota and loli as well. Keep in mind um... Cyberpunk Edgerunners and the loli character that I've seen ridiculous amounts of fan art from over the past few days. I truly wonder what skeletons you have to hide that you feel the necessity to do this moral grandstanding.
Post edited September 27, 2022 by TheGrimLord
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Darvond: Most Kagura Games publications are [DULL SURPRISE!] made in RPG Maker; endemically.

Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins? RPG Maker, and obviously so.
Treasure Hunter Claire? Not even barely disguised.
Leanna's Slice of Life? They don't even box in the interiors correctly. Yes.
Detective Girl of the Steam City? Vaguely disguised, falls apart in outdoor scenes and menus.
Ideology in Friction? Couldn't even bother to switch from a default typeface or menus.
Chevalier Historie? Surprise! It might be RPGmaker adjacent, but I don't recall action RPGs being possible.
Kamikaze Kommittee Ouka 2? Yep. Though the dev did actually put some flourish on it.
The Heart of Darkness? Yes. One of the screenshots gives it away, but they tried to disguise it.
The Demon Lord is New in Town! ? Probably not. Looks more like Ren'Py.
Magical Girl Celesphonia? Yes, and there's a pretty obvious drop in asset quality between game modes.
The Imperial Gatekeeper? Yes, but they go to great lengths to hide it. The assets are a dead ringer.
Sonia and the Hypnotic City? Yep. The city's tileset poorly melds into a natural cohesive artstyle.
The Dead End? Yes, but they splurged a little on features.
Noelle Does Her Best!? Obviously. Doesn't even star a reindeer from a surface town. More baffling, the pixel art used on these characters. It's bright and colorful, but clashes with the rest of the Kaguro catalogue.
Succubus x Saint? Pretty sure, but could be engine adjacent.
Magna Fortuna? Yes, and they don't even try to hide the tileset.
Kung Fu Grand King? Yes, and worse still, I can't tell if the screenshots are the game window or not. Weirdly, the characters sport a pixel art style in game, which clashes with the ultra-anime portraits.
Apostle: Rebellion? No. It's also the nearest thing in the Kagonza's catalogue that almost doesn't look like trash.
Castaway of the Ardusta Sea? Yes. Battle menus give it away.
Knights of Messiah? Yes. Menu typefaces give it away.
Serafina and the Key to the Egg? Unsure. I was more distracted by the Saberface on display. (IE, they look like ripped off Type:Moon designs.) And how the quality jarringly changes for the guard. I'm thinking yes. (Shop menu.)
The Triumphant Return of Diabolos? Yeah. It's very obvious. They didn't even disguise the chest.
Dungeon Town? No. Too bad about the incompetent artstyle that reminds me of early Touhou doujins.
Ambrosia? Yep. Doesn't even try to disguise itself. The faded pupils are a nice alarming touch.
Lelie Navigation!? Shrug. If it is, they did a good job hiding it. Possibly engine adjacent.
Summer Memories? No. It actually looks competent. Shame about that one review pointing out this might be shota.
Fallen Makina and the City of Ruins? Default assets, thy name is Fallen Makina.

So yeah. A lot of the games they publish overwhelmingly use it or cheap premade assets which look damn well like it. Many of their overworld characters aren't even 8x16 in proportions; so even though many of them might have more colors than a SNES game, they end up looking worse.
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TheGrimLord: Apostle: Rebellion almost doesn't look like trash? Are you here just trying to start shit now, mate? Look here. Some people happen to like these RPG Maker games and there have been several horror ones like The Witch's House, Ib and Mad Father which are praised in the genre. I get that you don't like these games, but you're starting to sound like a whiny keyboard warrior now and it's pathetic. Dial it back a little, you're starting to sound like a pretentious hipster elitist who thinks that "people have to only like what I like" and no one gets to disagree with you. I'm sick of it.

And some people like shota and loli as well. Keep in mind um... Cyberpunk Edgerunners and the loli character that I've seen ridiculous amounts of fan art from over the past few days. I truly wonder what skeletons you have to hide that you feel the necessity to do this moral grandstanding.
Given your defensiveness re loli "art", it's safe to say that the skeletons you should be concerned about are your own.

BTW, are you being paid to promote smut, because your care level is north of 9000?
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Dunjineer: How can I hide such ads from my GOG Galaxy homepage?
Uninstall GOG Galaxy.
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TheGrimLord: Apostle: Rebellion almost doesn't look like trash? Are you here just trying to start shit now, mate? Look here. Some people happen to like these RPG Maker games and there have been several horror ones like The Witch's House, Ib and Mad Father which are praised in the genre. I get that you don't like these games, but you're starting to sound like a whiny keyboard warrior now and it's pathetic. Dial it back a little, you're starting to sound like a pretentious hipster elitist who thinks that "people have to only like what I like" and no one gets to disagree with you. I'm sick of it.

And some people like shota and loli as well. Keep in mind um... Cyberpunk Edgerunners and the loli character that I've seen ridiculous amounts of fan art from over the past few days. I truly wonder what skeletons you have to hide that you feel the necessity to do this moral grandstanding.
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richlind33: Given your defensiveness re loli "art", it's safe to say that the skeletons you should be concerned about are your own.

BTW, are you being paid to promote smut, because your care level is north of 9000?
Maybe you should be upset at Trigger, the animation studio that produced the official Cyberpunk 2077 anime? After all, they said and I quote, "the loli stays." So you might as well demonize all of Japan at this rate.

Not paid, but I do bug test games and promote for the industry. Like most modern promotional gigs, it's voluntary. The fans like it, the fans pay you. That sort of thing. There's no real paycheck for promotion anymore. Even the people who write articles for promotion make peanuts. You do it for the love of it. And I do love it.
Post edited September 28, 2022 by TheGrimLord
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Catventurer: My biggest issue with this is that this looks like it was made with RPG Maker, which is my absolute least liked game engine. I've yet to play anything made with it that I actually enjoyed. I really do wish that if GOG is going to release more perv games that they'd at least release perv games made with something other than RPG Maker.
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Darvond: Most Kagura Games publications are [DULL SURPRISE!] made in RPG Maker; endemically.
I really think you misunderstood my reply.

If you look at my GOG profile, I have 130+ hours on Mary Skelter: Nightmares. It may not have full nudity, but it does have a purge mini game where you rub girls bodies as they moan sexually and clothing disappears. The only part that I find creepy is that Miko is in the room watching everything. At least, she is decent enough to not get weird with you about it.

There are mainstream games with sexual content, such as... the rainbow stripper boss battle in Persona 4 or the demon Mara that shows up in a lot of games with Shin Megami Tensei in the title. Both Neverwinter Nights (main campaign) and Divine Divinity have prostitutes that you can pay to have sex with.

The extremely critically acclaimed To the Moon uses RPG Maker XP. It was the first of many games that uses this engine that I've outright hated.

I think that people that want to play games that happen to have perv content deserve better than something made with RPG Maker. This is what I was expressing.
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Darvond: Most Kagura Games publications are [DULL SURPRISE!] made in RPG Maker; endemically.
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Catventurer: I really think you misunderstood my reply.

If you look at my GOG profile, I have 130+ hours on Mary Skelter: Nightmares. It may not have full nudity, but it does have a purge mini game where you rub girls bodies as they moan sexually and clothing disappears. The only part that I find creepy is that Miko is in the room watching everything. At least, she is decent enough to not get weird with you about it.

There are mainstream games with sexual content, such as... the rainbow stripper boss battle in Persona 4 or the demon Mara that shows up in a lot of games with Shin Megami Tensei in the title. Both Neverwinter Nights (main campaign) and Divine Divinity have prostitutes that you can pay to have sex with.

The extremely critically acclaimed To the Moon uses RPG Maker XP. It was the first of many games that uses this engine that I've outright hated.

I think that people that want to play games that happen to have perv content deserve better than something made with RPG Maker. This is what I was expressing.
Alright, sit down for this one. First of all, you are right. But has been explained before GOG has a contract with Kagura to release these as they appear. We don't know how long that will last, but it is definitely not ending anytime soon.

We DO have several adult games not made in RPG Maker. Dozens of visual novels, but also Evenicle 1&2 as well as both of the VenusBlood games. We have Succubus. We will be getting Lust For Darkness and Lust For Depair. I've been waiting patiently on them both. We have Being A DIK and House Party. More of those games may or may not come, because they do so well on itch.io and when applicable, Steam. Devs have admitted to me that Steam is their prime source of revenue. Other than that, Patreon has been an amazing source of revenue for adult content. Some games simply live by their Patreon. Which means currently that's the only place you can get them.

I've spoken with four adult devs in the past week. Trust me, a lot of really interesting and quite fun adult games are coming. I really want Book Of Korvald here as I have been testing a build for that and many of you will buy that one just for the gameplay itself. The issue here is GOG. That blanket response system just pushes a lot of devs off and they no longer care. Few will continue to submit after the first blanket rejection. This is a big problem, not just for adult games, but for games being submitted here in general.

I can almost guarantee you that several adult games you might want to see have been submitted and rejected. If this continues, you can't blame these devs for wanting to go somewhere else with their games.
Post edited September 28, 2022 by TheGrimLord
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Catventurer: I think that people that want to play games that happen to have perv content deserve better than something made with RPG Maker. This is what I was expressing.
Oh, I understood exactly what you meant. I too, loathe RPG Maker and feel we deserve better. (Especially with so many DOS-V and PC98 games out there.) I had to laugh when I realized that To the Moon was just a glorified 3 hour cutscene with extra steps.

I too, also don't mind sexual content, and in fact can favor it when tactfully done. I just wanted to (with the same gentle touch of a thermal detonator) to prove the point that it feels like we're getting cheaply made games that most of us would have made as a teenager, given half the chance.
You're not getting that PC-98 content. We've been discussing it in an adult server. The audience is niche, so niche in fact that even all the PC-98 ports we have ever gotten are Windows ports. As Bloodnose of Jast USA asked, "do any of you actually have a PC-98?" and it's a very valid question. I even priced the thing on ebay and the boards are $1500 by themselves. A PC-98 version of Doom sells for about $500. Nobody is developing games or is even interested in re-releasing games for this old Japanese computer. Most of them run natively in a browser. I've done all the research on this thing and here you are still hunting that white whale. You may not like the RPG Maker games, but I don't like the autotuned hip hop music that is very popular with the youth these days either. Difference is, I'm not going to forums complaining about it.

You may not like what I have to say and may not respond to me, but everything I've said is true. So bring on the next Kagura title so we can get even more complaining next week. And the week after. And the week after that. Or you know, you can just move on.
Post edited September 28, 2022 by TheGrimLord
meh
Post edited September 28, 2022 by Reaper9988
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TheGrimLord: I can almost guarantee you that several adult games you might want to see have been submitted and rejected. If this continues, you can't blame these devs for wanting to go somewhere else with their games.
Adult content isn't a requirement for me, but I'm not going to shy away and miss out on a cute game just because the target demographic really is pervy boys, and I have girl parts... thus not the customer they're looking for. I got Mary Skelter because cute graphics and fairy tale people - wasn't disappointed. I really am the target demographic for games like Calico, Cat Quest, while True: learn(), and A Short Hike.

I thought that Tower of Ardia looked like another really cute game that I might enjoy... then I realized the game engine that it used and got all disappointed.

It probably is largely To the Moon's fault. This game was recommended to me by several people as an RPG that I might enjoy. It's best described as, "extremely tedious and not even remotely a game." The RPG Maker games on itch I encountered were only marginally better in that they were actually games. I probably just need to find the one game that will redeem RPG Maker and undo the damage that To the Moon did.

Also I really do hope that Book Of Korvald does make it's way to GOG even though I no longer have decent hand-eye coordination for platform games (thanks to a wrist fracture that is finally catching up to me.) I also really do want to hear more of it's soundtrack.

What matters is that it looks like a lot of effort is being put into this game, which is the sort of game that GOG should be acquiring regardless of genre or content level. GOG needs to make the approval process easier.
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TheGrimLord: I can almost guarantee you that several adult games you might want to see have been submitted and rejected. If this continues, you can't blame these devs for wanting to go somewhere else with their games.
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Catventurer: Adult content isn't a requirement for me, but I'm not going to shy away and miss out on a cute game just because the target demographic really is pervy boys, and I have girl parts... thus not the customer they're looking for. I got Mary Skelter because cute graphics and fairy tale people - wasn't disappointed. I really am the target demographic for games like Calico, Cat Quest, while True: learn(), and A Short Hike.

I thought that Tower of Ardia looked like another really cute game that I might enjoy... then I realized the game engine that it used and got all disappointed.

It probably is largely To the Moon's fault. This game was recommended to me by several people as an RPG that I might enjoy. It's best described as, "extremely tedious and not even remotely a game." The RPG Maker games on itch I encountered were only marginally better in that they were actually games. I probably just need to find the one game that will redeem RPG Maker and undo the damage that To the Moon did.

Also I really do hope that Book Of Korvald does make it's way to GOG even though I no longer have decent hand-eye coordination for platform games (thanks to a wrist fracture that is finally catching up to me.) I also really do want to hear more of it's soundtrack.

What matters is that it looks like a lot of effort is being put into this game, which is the sort of game that GOG should be acquiring regardless of genre or content level. GOG needs to make the approval process easier.
I agree with you. Time and effort was put into Korvald, the dev is very passionate about it and maybe it'll be here when the game gets completed. Tbh, I have always looked at adult content as kind of a bonus with games where actual gameplay is involved.
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TheGrimLord: I can almost guarantee you that several adult games you might want to see have been submitted and rejected. If this continues, you can't blame these devs for wanting to go somewhere else with their games.
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Catventurer: Adult content isn't a requirement for me, but I'm not going to shy away and miss out on a cute game just because the target demographic really is pervy boys, and I have girl parts... thus not the customer they're looking for. I got Mary Skelter because cute graphics and fairy tale people - wasn't disappointed. I really am the target demographic for games like Calico, Cat Quest, while True: learn(), and A Short Hike.

I thought that Tower of Ardia looked like another really cute game that I might enjoy... then I realized the game engine that it used and got all disappointed.

It probably is largely To the Moon's fault. This game was recommended to me by several people as an RPG that I might enjoy. It's best described as, "extremely tedious and not even remotely a game." The RPG Maker games on itch I encountered were only marginally better in that they were actually games. I probably just need to find the one game that will redeem RPG Maker and undo the damage that To the Moon did.

Also I really do hope that Book Of Korvald does make it's way to GOG even though I no longer have decent hand-eye coordination for platform games (thanks to a wrist fracture that is finally catching up to me.) I also really do want to hear more of it's soundtrack.

What matters is that it looks like a lot of effort is being put into this game, which is the sort of game that GOG should be acquiring regardless of genre or content level. GOG needs to make the approval process easier.
Agreed didn't like to the moon either but I don't mind Rpg Maker.
As with any engine you can make good or bad games with it, it just has a pretty easy to spot look in its base form.