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Posted February 28, 2024
An iconic classic, fully remastered by the team at Nightdive Studios, through its proprietary KEX engine, allowing the game to run on modern gaming devices at up to 4K resolution at 120FPS.

STAR WARS™: Dark Forces Remaster is now out on GOG!

Expect all fourteen original levels, featuring Star Wars™ worlds and capital ships, engaging first-person ground combat featuring ten weapons and twenty types of enemies, Personal Digital Assistant (providing you with in game information such including map, inventory, and mission briefing), modern gamepad support, controller support, advanced 3D rendering, up to 4K 120FPS visuals, and much more!



The original 1995 STAR WARS™: Dark Forces raised the bar for FPS games, offering players a significant degree of movement and interactivity, a large selection of items and power-ups, and engaging environments.
In that iconic title you assume the role of Kyle Katarn, a defector of the Galactic Empire turned mercenary for hire. Katarn joins the Rebel Alliance’s covert operations division tasked with infiltrating the Galactic Empire, where he discovers the secret Dark Trooper Project. The development of this powerful new series of Imperial battle droids and power-armored stormtroopers stands to strengthen the Empire’s grip on the galaxy unless Katarn and the Rebel Alliance intervene.

With STAR WARS™: Dark Forces Remaster, every new and returning player will be able to enjoy all of that with upgraded gameplay, high-resolution textures, enhanced lighting and rendering, and support for gamepads.

That’s not all, though! For those who already own the classic STAR WARS™: Dark Forces – you get a -10% launch discount on the Remaster, until April 29th, 2 PM UTC!

Make sure to check it out – with Nightdive Studios behind the wheel, we couldn’t be more excited!
Posted March 01, 2024
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foxgog: Hello Time4Tea! ...
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Time4Tea: Thanks for your thoughtful post, foxgog. You make a lot of very good points here and I agree with most of what you said.

Another point I'll make: the main effect I felt from the lives system of the OG Dark Forces was in how I approached the game - it made me more cautious and have to carefully weigh up in-game decisions I was making. The number of times that I actually ran out of lives and had to restart a level was relatively small. Generally only on 2 or 3 of the harder levels, or the occasional situation where I got ambushed by something nasty (e.g. jumped by a dark trooper) and caught unawares.
Blah blah blah

And repectufully a careful blah blah.
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foxgog: Hello Time4Tea! ...
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Time4Tea: Thanks for your thoughtful post, foxgog. You make a lot of very good points here and I agree with most of what you said.

Another point I'll make: the main effect I felt from the lives system of the OG Dark Forces was in how I approached the game - it made me more cautious and have to carefully weigh up in-game decisions I was making. The number of times that I actually ran out of lives and had to restart a level was relatively small. Generally only on 2 or 3 of the harder levels, or the occasional situation where I got ambushed by something nasty (e.g. jumped by a dark trooper) and caught unawares.
And do you know why?

Because this is just a fantasie you are doing for external reasons
Post edited March 01, 2024 by Gudadantza
Posted March 01, 2024
I just wanted to add here I have seen comments on the review page complementing the effort made and some complaints regarding artistic intentions.
I wanted to add in no uncertain terms for clarification Nightdive is NOT the video game equivalent of Criterion for movies here taking said review into account.
That being said I would said there is NO video game company that is even COMPARABLE to Criterion that exists.
Posted March 01, 2024
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Gudadantza: Blah blah blah

And repectufully a careful blah blah.
Very helpful contribution here, buddy. A mature way to respond to someone that has a difference of opinion.
Posted March 01, 2024
Too expensive IMHO.

Turok 3 remaster's pricing was sorta justified, as porting an N64 exclusive to modern systems with 4K/120-FPS enhancements (and such low spec requirements) is a massive PITA.

On the other hand SW:DF remaster doesn't have the excuse of being an exclusive to a headache-inducing console.

Lastly I'm no SW fan and never played the original (just a casual boomer-shooter fan) but even if I were/did, the pricing would still feel like a ripoff.
Post edited March 01, 2024 by Ixoliptis
Posted March 01, 2024
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Ixoliptis: Too expensive IMHO.

Turok 3 remaster's pricing was sorta justified, as porting an N64 exclusive to modern systems with 4K/120-FPS enhancements (and such low spec requirements) is a massive PITA.

On the other hand SW:DF remaster doesn't have the excuse of being an exclusive to a headache-inducing console.

Lastly I'm no SW fan and never played the original (just a casual boomer-shooter fan) but even if I were/did, the pricing would still feel like a ripoff.
I am a Star Wars fan, I did play the original (which is an antique boomer shooter by car law) and I feel the pricing is reasonable.
Post edited March 01, 2024 by Zackman1999
Posted March 01, 2024
I agree on the side of it being too expensive. Two points of comparison:

1) The full remake of System Shock is only $10 more, which surely required significantly more development work (completely new assets, textures, models, etc).

2) The Tomb Raider remaster is a similar price, but includes 3 games and many more entertainment hours per dollar.

Imo, $20 would have been more reasonable.
Posted March 01, 2024
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Time4Tea: I agree on the side of it being too expensive. Two points of comparison:

1) The full remake of System Shock is only $10 more, which surely required significantly more development work (completely new assets, textures, models, etc).

2) The Tomb Raider remaster is a similar price, but includes 3 games and many more entertainment hours per dollar.

Imo, $20 would have been more reasonable.
Frankly I think Nightdive THINKS they are the gaming equivalent of Criterion. They need to wake up.
Posted March 01, 2024
Night Dive / Atari presumably had to pay Disney a pretty penny to license this, plus of course the time and resources spent just to make it. (Remember that Disney DOS Platformers were $10 each when they were here.) It may be overpriced but I think it's worth considering the extra possible context.

I assume it'll start going on sale in two or so months.
Post edited March 01, 2024 by tfishell
Posted March 01, 2024
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tfishell: Remember that Disney DOS Platformers were $10 each when they were here.
Wait, the Disney platformers were on GOG?! I cannot find them. The search doesn't show games like Lion King etc.
Posted March 01, 2024
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WildAppleSI: Wait, the Disney platformers were on GOG?! I cannot find them. The search doesn't show games like Lion King etc.
They were here:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/disney_the_lion_king_and_disney_aladdin_delisting

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/disney_the_jungle_book_delisting


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Then they came back (more expensive):

https://www.gog.com/en/game/disneys_hercules

https://www.gog.com/en/game/disney_classic_games_collection
Post edited March 01, 2024 by BreOl72
Posted March 01, 2024
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tfishell: Remember that Disney DOS Platformers were $10 each when they were here.
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WildAppleSI: Wait, the Disney platformers were on GOG?! I cannot find them. The search doesn't show games like Lion King etc.
Removed a couple years back at this point, I believe. New versions were created and combined together into the Disney Classic Games Collection: https://www.gog.com/en/game/disney_classic_games_collection

(Since each DOS platformer was $10 while here, the collection linked above would be about the same price. So I'm not sure about all the negative reviews about the price, at least when comparing the $30 price to the combined price of the DOS originals.)
Post edited March 01, 2024 by tfishell
Posted March 01, 2024
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BreOl72: Edit:
Then they came back (more expensive):

https://www.gog.com/en/game/disneys_hercules

https://www.gog.com/en/game/disney_classic_games_collection
Hercules is the last one which survived the "remake purge". IIRC, it was never delisted since it appeared on GOG.

I would also very much like Tarzan to appear here.
Posted March 01, 2024
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idbeholdME: I would also very much like Tarzan to appear here.
I feel ya, I'd really like Toy Story 2 Action Game to show up.
Posted March 02, 2024
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Sarang: Frankly I think Nightdive THINKS they are the gaming equivalent of Criterion. They need to wake up.
If the games sell acceptably well at $30, which they seem to, then they have no reason to sell them cheaper. There's a market for these games which is less price-sensitive than you seem to think. Also, $30 ain't what it used to be.
Posted March 02, 2024
$43.95 AUD or $39.59 AUD with the lousy10% discount.

The game doesn't even make it onto my Wishlist at that price.

Next they will be claiming they put as much work into an old game, as they would creating it from scratch ... nowhere near it.

Hell, it isn't even a Remake. But even with that, most of the work is already done, in the sense that most are known variables or elements of something that is tried and true and has a ready fan base, so risk is minimal.

And I just love how affluent folk dismiss the value of money so easily. No care at all about the less affluent or wiser person, and so they dismiss them and encourage this atrocious pricing behavior, by buying at such a ridiculous price.

Looks like I will, have to make do with the original version, which I had already bought on disc and then again at GOG.

Perhaps I will check out those MODs some mention ... or just wait a year or three at GOG, for an appropriate price ... or simply just not bother at all.

P.S. And I wrote that as someone who has over 2,000 games in my GOG library, so I am not shy on spending a penny or two. I just call it as I see it. :P
Post edited March 02, 2024 by Timboli
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