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Posted July 25, 2018
Girls just wanna have fun.

Shining Song Starnova is now available DRM-free on GOG.com.

They may harbor dark secrets, insecurities, bad habits, the works. At the end of the day, though, these are seven young ladies, simply dreaming big in an industry where dreams don't come cheap. As the Producer, your job is to approach these talented singers, get to know them, then help them reach their full potential.

Pick up the Soundtrack and Vocal Collection separately or grab them together with the main game in the Limited Edition.

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Posted July 29, 2018
Does anyone know if this is the first VN to release on GOG before Steam? I think it is.

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MischiefMaker: I can't believe GOG turned down Mushihimesama, for years a viral video on youtube for "the hardest videogame boss ever," because it was "too niche," then turns around and publishes things like this.
Maybe GOG is changing and becoming more open-minded. After all, selling visual novels on GOG is only a very recent thing.

I really wish GOG would make up with Nyu-Media though, after snubbing them years ago.

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Star_Ocean: I imagine the GOG version is the same as the eventual Steam version will be, but what does it matter since the uncut version patch is free?

See here: http://forum.loveinspace.moe/post/7056
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Sabin_Stargem: Just because the uncensor patch is currently free and available, it doesn't necessarily remain the case in the future. Not all consumers would be informed about the existence of this patch, weakening their ability to choose their content. Worse, it sets a precedent for GOG that will infect future offerings with censorship.

Censorship harms the medium, and should not be encouraged.
It's not "censorship" if both versions are available to consumers, for the same price. It's called consumer choice.

Believe it or not, there are some people who who actually prefer the swimsuit pics over the nude pics, to use Kunovski's analogy a few posts down.

Or, in other words, this:

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Carradice: Well, if any game has some potentially problematic content, it is much better and more healthy to let the player decide via options if and how that content might appear, or not. Be it blood, nudity, scary content or whatever.
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HereForTheBeer: Just for grins,here's the developer's website: http://sunrider-vn.com/

Try entering the site by putting in your age as a 17-year old whose 18th birthday is tomorrow. Seems even the developer feels there should be an age wall.
It's probably there to avoid legal liabilities.

Anyone with half a brain knows that anyone else who retains a basic knowledge of mathematics while horny can find their way in.

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pferreira1983: A new Shining game from Sega? Yay!

Oooooo it's a different type of Shining game...
Heh, I lol'd.
Post edited July 29, 2018 by QuintSakugarne
Posted July 29, 2018
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Have you people notice something strange?! Its been 3 days since the release of this game and there still no dedicated game specific forum for this one?! Been waiting for it for quite a while....

Was suppose to post a link regarding a patch to uncensored the game but I'll just post it here since there's no dedicated forums yet for this game.... :(

http://forum.loveinspace.moe/thread/568/shining-song-starnova-denpasoft-mod
Posted July 29, 2018
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Kunovski: as long as there's an uncensored version available from the developers, why is this such a problem? GOG simply decided to go for a milder version for whatever reason

it's like blaming Playboy to only show photos of a model in swimsuit while you know she also did nudes elsewhere... go there then ;) the only one censoring anything are the devs who created a "mild" version in the first place
Well given how GOG quickly jumped in to host VNs when Steam started threatening censoring them further, if nothing else, it's hugely hypocritical of GOG to then request further edits that Valve didn't deem necessary.

But as for that patch hosted outside of GOG, not all regions can access the site that hosts it.
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Linko90: First of all, remain civil. Don't start abusing each other over cartoon boobs.

GOG sells games appropriate for 16+. Given the content of the game, this is why some of the content was softened. That doesn't mean a mod/patch won't add the missing content. For those interested, there's even a GOGMix with the patches listed - https://www.gog.com/mix/censored_visual_novels
So please explain why The Witcher 3 is not censored? How can you not see the hypocrisy in demanding a game aimed at the same age range be censored when another is not? The availability of an off site patch to SOME countries, does not make this biased treatment any better.
Post edited July 29, 2018 by bansama
Posted July 29, 2018
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Kunovski: as long as there's an uncensored version available from the developers, why is this such a problem? GOG simply decided to go for a milder version for whatever reason

it's like blaming Playboy to only show photos of a model in swimsuit while you know she also did nudes elsewhere... go there then ;) the only one censoring anything are the devs who created a "mild" version in the first place
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bansama: Well given how GOG quickly jumped in to host VNs when Steam started threatening censoring them further, if nothing else, it's hugely hypocritical of GOG to then request further edits that Valve didn't deem necessary.

But as for that patch hosted outside of GOG, not all regions can access the site that hosts it.
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Linko90: First of all, remain civil. Don't start abusing each other over cartoon boobs.

GOG sells games appropriate for 16+. Given the content of the game, this is why some of the content was softened. That doesn't mean a mod/patch won't add the missing content. For those interested, there's even a GOGMix with the patches listed - https://www.gog.com/mix/censored_visual_novels
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bansama: So please explain why The Witcher 3 is not censored? How can you not see the hypocrisy in demanding a game aimed at the same age range be censored when another is not? The availability of an off site patch to SOME countries, does not make this biased treatment any better.
Can't believe i have to type this but here we go!


You don't see penetration in The Witcher. At no point do you control a sex toy to insert into a character. There's a huge difference between a sex scene and porn, that difference being mainly penetration or graphic images of 'parts'.
Posted July 30, 2018
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Lifthrasil: Exactly. I will never understand people who think that violence and killing, i.e. the ending of life, is OK. But the creation of life, i.e. sex, is evil. That is a very twisted morality!
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HereForTheBeer: Two things:

Who said sex was evil?

I daresay that the portrayal of sex in this game has anything to do with the creation of life. It looks more like an exercise of power through sex.
I have to say that I really wonder how those pics on the storefront could correspond with what I was playing so far. I downloaded the demo only and I have to say that I actually like it ... a lot. But not because of boobs and sex (so far all I saw were two scenes with boobs in it) but because of the characters the game is creating. So far there was nothing in it that would make me think this game would take sexual encounters/harassement/sex at work lightly ... not in the slightest. It does the opposite. So far it's all about becoming a star without giving up yourself ... it's about the question how far you should go and how the industry is treating those women/girls who want to become an idol. Very thoughtful and good writing. Again ... so far and I also only played the demo a few hours. What I experienced so far would mean the game/book/VN will have to turn completely around later in the game to pesent pics like those you pointed out. At this moment I would consider pics like those completely unfitting (I don't mind seeing such pics without context but here they seem unfitting and I wonder how the story will support this).
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HereForTheBeer: Just for grins,here's the developer's website: http://sunrider-vn.com/

Try entering the site by putting in your age as a 17-year old whose 18th birthday is tomorrow. Seems even the developer feels there should be an age wall.
I still have to smile when I hear about such age "protections". It'S more like an "I can do simple math" protection ;)
Post edited July 30, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted July 30, 2018
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Linko90: You don't see penetration in The Witcher. At no point do you control a sex toy to insert into a character. There's a huge difference between a sex scene and porn, that difference being mainly penetration or graphic images of 'parts'.
Agreed. Still stupid to cut away pieces of a game. You do know these kind of scenes are the goal of those kind of games, right? What's a buildup without a climax. How about the age long topic of introducing an adult only area? This could also be used to sell adult germans games like dying light...
Post edited July 30, 2018 by AlienMind
Posted July 30, 2018
I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be surprised by this approach... GOG has been selling a "censored" (ecchi) version of HuniePop for ages now. Though it is indeed trivial to enable the 18+ content, this is not done for you by default nor can it be done via the game's settings.
Post edited July 30, 2018 by WinterSnowfall
Posted July 30, 2018
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MarkoH01: <About the content you've seen>
I think context is important. I'm guessing that one goal that some players will set for themselves is to get to those particular bits of content, which could possibly teach a not-great lesson. "If I get the girls / women to compromise themselves, then I'll see 'the good stuff'!" Even if the goal of the game is to NOT compromise oneself. Seems like a reward for the player getting the girl to give in to pressures, which doesn't sound like a lesson a typical parent would want their kids to learn.

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HereForTheBeer: Just for grins,here's the developer's website: http://sunrider-vn.com/

Try entering the site by putting in your age as a 17-year old whose 18th birthday is tomorrow. Seems even the developer feels there should be an age wall.
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MarkoH01: I still have to smile when I hear about such age "protections". It'S more like an "I can do simple math" protection ;)
Right - it's realistically not stopping anybody. But it does signify an acknowledgement that the content isn't really intended for all ages.
Posted July 30, 2018
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MarkoH01: <About the content you've seen>
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HereForTheBeer: I think context is important. I'm guessing that one goal that some players will set for themselves is to get to those particular bits of content, which could possibly teach a not-great lesson. "If I get the girls / women to compromise themselves, then I'll see 'the good stuff'!" Even if the goal of the game is to NOT compromise oneself. Seems like a reward for the player getting the girl to give in to pressures, which doesn't sound like a lesson a typical parent would want their kids to learn.
There are no choices in the game ... just story. That's why I was pretty much surprised that the story does not seem to be about to get the girls to undress and do bad things. As I said - so far it's the opposite. Really makes me wonder about the context of the pics and scenes people talked about.

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MarkoH01: I still have to smile when I hear about such age "protections". It'S more like an "I can do simple math" protection ;)
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HereForTheBeer: Right - it's realistically not stopping anybody. But it does signify an acknowledgement that the content isn't really intended for all ages.
True and agreed. :)

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WinterSnowfall: I'm not sure I understand why anyone would be surprised by this approach...
Just to make it clear. I was only surprised why GOG would have censored the censored version even more - but that seemed to be a misunderstanding on my side.
Post edited July 30, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted July 30, 2018
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Linko90: You don't see penetration in The Witcher. At no point do you control a sex toy to insert into a character. There's a huge difference between a sex scene and porn, that difference being mainly penetration or graphic images of 'parts'.
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AlienMind: Agreed. Still stupid to cut away pieces of a game. You do know these kind of scenes are the goal of those kind of games, right? What's a buildup without a climax. How about the age long topic of introducing an adult only area? This could also be used to sell adult germans games like dying light...
I'll refer to my last comment where I direct people to a gogmix which provides links to the uncensored patch. I'll also refer to my comment which gives you a reply as to why the content was cut.
Posted July 31, 2018
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Star_Ocean: I imagine the GOG version is the same as the eventual Steam version will be, but what does it matter since the uncut version patch is free?

See here: http://forum.loveinspace.moe/post/7056
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Sabin_Stargem: Just because the uncensor patch is currently free and available, it doesn't necessarily remain the case in the future. Not all consumers would be informed about the existence of this patch, weakening their ability to choose their content. Worse, it sets a precedent for GOG that will infect future offerings with censorship.

Censorship harms the medium, and should not be encouraged.
Yes, Censorship is a Leftist tactic. Also leftists/Fabians are Service to Self types unlike Service to Others types.

Also what happened to PARENTAL LOCKS in games, DUKE NUKEM 3D had it?
Post edited July 31, 2018 by fr33kSh0w2012
Posted July 31, 2018
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Linko90: You don't see penetration in The Witcher. At no point do you control a sex toy to insert into a character. There's a huge difference between a sex scene and porn, that difference being mainly penetration or graphic images of 'parts'.
And do you see any of that in the "all ages" version that you actually sell? We're not talking about content added into the game via an offsite patch. Are you honestly trying to say that the "all ages" version before you requested modifications to it was more "adult" than The Witcher 3?
Post edited July 31, 2018 by bansama
Posted July 31, 2018
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Linko90: You don't see penetration in The Witcher. At no point do you control a sex toy to insert into a character. There's a huge difference between a sex scene and porn, that difference being mainly penetration or graphic images of 'parts'.
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bansama: And do you see any of that in the "all ages" version that you actually sell? We're not talking about content added into the game via an offsite patch. Are you honestly trying to say that the "all ages" version before you requested modifications to it was more "adult" than The Witcher 3?
If in case what has been said here is true we would not talk abot the "all ages" version but about the "original=uncensored" version prior GOGs requested edits. So in this case your question would be obsolete. However GOG so far did not confirm that this was the case.
Post edited July 31, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted August 02, 2018
According to Nemjen it is the all ages version:

http://forum.loveinspace.moe/thread/568/shining-song-starnova-denpasoft-mod

"The build up on Steam is 1.00 however this is the 1.00 that was initially due to go live on GOG before they requested that additional work was done on the all ages version"
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