ok, I understand :) yet this way you can't buy from GOG because they ordered censoring, you can't buy from devs because they DID the censoring, and you might miss on a very good game because of that
I'm behind this (not her... :B

Well, if any game has some potentially problematic content, it is much better and more healthy to let the player decide via options if and how that content might appear, or not. Be it blood, nudity, scary content or whatever.

Censorship is never good. Allowing the player to make informed decisions is the way, always.

AND, why do the studios pay attention to people that would never buy the game anyway? While upsetting those who would...

Videogames is not a medium that belong solely to children. Further, why would you give a child a credit card that could be used to buy all kinds of things, including toys of an adult nature?

If there is to be a parental control, it should be in the form of a digital wallet that can only purchase items rated for a specific age range. That safeguards the parent's money, and rightfully places the burden of responsibility upon them.

15-year old kid gets a job, puts his paycheck in the bank, bank issues a debit card that has Visa functionality. This is pretty normal these days. Credit cards used to be a fairly valid adults-only hurdle, but that's not the case any more.

Let me put it this way: if my 12-yera old niece goes to the video store, do you think she should find Debbie Does Dallas on the shelves between, say, Dear John and Eloise?

Neither do I. Maybe the store can put DDD away in an area reserved for verified adults. Still offer it, but fence it off just a little bit. If gOg are to offer this type of content - full sex scenes and all - I think they'd be nuts not to wall it off somehow. I won't pretend to know what sort of effective verification can be used, but there should be something.

Parents could very easily provide wallet funds for their kid without actually giving the child access to a credit card.

Considering how violence is given a trivial pass in the media, I have no objection against sex being just as casual and ordinary. Debbie Does Dallas deserves just as prominent a place as Gojira, Mad Max, Frozen, and Citizen Kane.

So no, I don't agree with you. My priority is for people to live fulfilling lives. Repressing sexuality is a mutilation of the mind.

...and the lord said: "Thou shall fappeth!"

The decision of what is important should be decided by the person in question. A parent's duty to their child is to ensure that they have a safe environment and the means to obtain an ideal life. Denying knowledge and resources is among the many things a parent can do to ruin a person's life.

I was once a child myself, and had time to reflect on my upbringing. My conclusion was that most parents are neglecting or abusing their children, often for the sake of "tradition" or to secure their own future. Proper care for another person requires thought, empathy, resources, and most important of all...

To permit a child to become their own person.

(Adresses a certain part of the "community")
And if you don't agree to anyone's opinion which does not contain any abusing, swearing or whatever (in this case mine) instead of downvoting say something (like Kunovski did) so we can trade arguments. This is getting ridiculous and it makes no fun anymore to discuss matters when you always have to fear downvoting justbecause some people don't agree with a simple opinions. Grow up, please. (And yes, this will probably get dowbvoted as well but I am trying to reach the people I am talking to ... I have not given up hope on them yet).

GOG also sells games 18+ but here we are talking about violence in most cases. However, I still wonder why the regulary censored version had to be censored even more by GOGs request. Normally a game is in a certain state and then it gets a rating. In this case there exists a rated and an unrated version of the game but afaik GOG is not even selling the censored version they forced additional edits and that is what I don't understand.

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And I never asked for the uncensored version. I can understand why GOG might want to avoid problematic stuff by just getting the censored one. I have problems with the question why they asked for additional edits probably after this game has been rated.
I am sure somewhere inside the brain of those who downvoted has to be a bit of intelligence left that sees that a forum is MEANT for argumenting different opinions. I am just that optimistic. I am not actually angry this time but what's the sense in making arguments when you get punished for giving them and are trying to argue reasonably. But thank you for your support, Fairfox. I know that you are right it's just hard for me to accept since I am used to talk to people without any problems and I was used to do this here for years as well... maybe this time my message was clear. I did not shout and I tried to make them understand. Let's just wait ... if it did not work, I promise you I won't bother anymore. However that would also mean that I probably won't post so much here anymore - it's just no fun for me in this case.

Are you trying to tell us that this game - portraying full-on pornography in a "casting couch" situation as girls / young women try to make their way in the music industry - is suitable "knowledge and resources" for healthy sexual education to adolescents?

Taking out that content, or allowing it behind an age verification wall, isn't repressing sexuality. The game is certainly not an example that I would want a teen to learn from: using a position of power to coerce / convince girls and young women to have sex. Once the kid / young adult has figured out sexuality - with parental guidance - through the confusion of the changes of adolescence and peer / societal influences, then let them at it. But I don't feel that type of content is conducive to teaching them healthy sexual and relationship behaviors. Let them get past the crazy hormone and learning stages, first. I'm not saying the content shouldn't be available. Just that it's not appropriate for all ages, and it's far from being a learning tool, except of the "Don't do it this way" type.

I wasn't referring to your point about further content removal with that post I made. Honestly, I'm not certain what further content was removed, or why. I'm commenting only on the main bit of content that was taken out, which was done for perfectly valid reasons. And, of course, it's fully the decision of the store to do so.

The earlier post of yours that I quoted was just a springboard to explain to people - those who might have thought the censorship was simply removal of breasts - that the stuff that was removed was essentially full-on sexual pornography, so maybe they would understand why it was taken out for this store. As one can read above, people still disagree with that move, saying that it's appropriate - and good - for kids to view that type of content

If I made it look like I was adding your position to my more generalized point, well, that's not what I was trying to do. Sorry for the confusion.

Thank you for the explanation.