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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Good job for GOG finally getting this, which it should have got years ago.

However, GOG needs the rest of these games too. So where are they? They all should have been released on GOG simultaneously today.

The store page for this game even directly states that it's a follow up to Burst. But we don't have Burst here, so what the heck? That's no good.

Are the other Senran Kagura games coming to GOG too, or not?

Also, much respect for XSEED for giving this game Crossplay, presuming that statements about that from other posters are correct.
Maybe this is a test balloon ? To check if it is wanted here.
Seeing as it is in the toplist, could be a good sign.

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tfishell: A longshot: iirc, there was some eroge company that almost wanted to stop releasing here because of the fits some people were throwing in the release threads. Maybe GOG gave XSEED a heads-up over this and suggested no release thread? Again, a longshot, especially after Succubus got a recent DLC thread.

My other, main guess is GOG messed up somehow. (Pretty sure we've had releases but no release threads until the next day before?) Maybe they really are trying to hide this (at least on the forum), but I'm skeptical. It is on the front page, not prominently but under "Featured Deals" and fifth on the carousel.
Really ? Which one was that ? Figured most of them don't give much about the forums, as long as the sales do good enough.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: For GOG not to announce & therefore advertise this game in a news post is very illogical.

What are they going to do when this game goes on discount in the future?

Not ever announce that either? Never mention this game in any future sales post?

That would require GOG to maintain a blacklist of games on GOG that they deliberately do not promote. That would be a lot of work and effort and wasted money for GOG to maintain.

So, the smartest thing for GOG to do would be to announce & advertise this game properly with a formal official news post.
I wonder if that thread is gonna come tomorrow.
The release was fairly late and we know GOG does mess up sometimes.
Post edited August 09, 2022 by Reaper9988
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tfishell: A longshot: iirc, there was some eroge company that almost wanted to stop releasing here because of the fits some people were throwing in the release threads. Maybe GOG gave XSEED a heads-up over this and suggested no release thread? Again, a longshot, especially after Succubus got a recent DLC thread.

My other, main guess is GOG messed up somehow. (Pretty sure we've had releases but no release threads until the next day before?) Maybe they really are trying to hide this (at least on the forum), but I'm skeptical. It is on the front page, not prominently but under "Featured Deals" and fifth on the carousel.
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Reaper9988: Really ? Which one was that ? Figured most of them don't give much about the forums, as long as the sales do good enough.
I don't remember, it was somebody else who claimed that in one of the threads. (edited my original comment to reflect this)
Pretty sure it was a publisher who released often.
Post edited August 09, 2022 by tfishell
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tfishell: A longshot: iirc, someone on the forum claimed that there was some eroge company/publisher that almost wanted to stop releasing here because of the fits some people were throwing in the release threads.
Really sad if true. Seems moderation is too lax though. Thoughtful critique (and pointing out things like missing features / drm / etc) should be welcome but most eroge release threads are half-full of nothing but hate for the genre itself and that gets derailed into a stupid argument about.. well, let's not even go there. Doesn't reflect well on the community. Unfortunately outsiders who pass by won't realize it's a vocal minority throwing a hissy fit.
Post edited August 09, 2022 by clarry
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tfishell: A longshot: iirc, someone on the forum claimed that there was some eroge company/publisher that almost wanted to stop releasing here because of the fits some people were throwing in the release threads. Maybe GOG gave XSEED a heads-up over this and suggested no release thread? Again, a longshot, especially after Succubus got a recent DLC thread.

My other, main guess is GOG messed up somehow. (Pretty sure we've had releases but no release threads until the next day before?) Maybe they really are trying to hide this (at least on the forum), but I'm skeptical. It is on the front page, not prominently but under "Featured Deals" and fifth on the carousel.
I felt like they're taking the middle ground. They don't announce it on the news part so not to awaken the moralist from their uneasy slumber, but still put it on the front page large and wide to tell people that yes, we sell this game.

I think this is fine, without formal forum post they don't have a place to get mad and standing on a sopabox and yelling about how immoral everyone is for having normal sex drive. They also rarely gone to general forum and only comment on news thread.

Even if they found this thread, this is pretty much informal discussion and acting as containment cell for them. They can sperg all the want but it's not going to affect the publishers and developers that much.
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tfishell: I don't remember, it was somebody else who claimed that in one of the threads. (edited my original comment to reflect this)
I hope it's not the case; There will always be morons and puritans (and often just regular trolls) whining when this sort of games are released, if publishers get influenced by that then they probably should find a different job because it is not likely to stop any time soon be it on this forum or on Twitter.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean, but it sounds disgusting.

Anyway, not releasing all the games simultaneously is bad for sales, because it makes customers like me uncertain of whether the other games are coming to GOG or not, and in turn, that makes me question whether this game is worth buying on GOG or not.

For example, I wouldn't want to buy this game on GOG, and then become stuck being unable to complete my collection of these games, in the event that the other games never do come to GOG.

Releasing them simultaneously would solve that problem, and cause me to buy this game, by removing any doubt about whether or not the other games are coming to GOG.

Or at the very least, failing a simultaneous release, then GOG and/or XSEED could at the very least tell us whether or not all of the Senran Kagura games that are on Steam are coming to GOG too.

But without GOG doing either of those things, then that causes me to be reluctant to buy this game even though I want to buy it, if the whole series will be coming to GOG.
I understand both sides here, but I personally kind of agree with the idea that doing a whole Senran Kagura game dump on GOG is probably not a good idea. It would cost quite a bit of money to buy all the games, some of the are still very heavy on DLC, and people might not know where to turn in the situation where numerous titles were all released the same day.

If you're concerned about future releases coming or not, and that would be a deal breaker for you on this game, then do not buy Shinovi Versus. There's no guarantee more are coming. It might end up being more work to get these games functioning DRM-free with full Galaxy integration than it's actually worth.

I have no idea if more will come or not. If I had to guess I'd cautiously say "yes", but it all depends on how much work it is to get them here and how well the games actually do here, and with GOG kind sabotaging the game in a way it already has a strike against it.

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tfishell: A longshot: iirc, someone on the forum claimed that there was some eroge company/publisher that almost wanted to stop releasing here because of the fits some people were throwing in the release threads. Maybe GOG gave XSEED a heads-up over this and suggested no release thread? Again, a longshot, especially after Succubus got a recent DLC thread.

My other, main guess is GOG messed up somehow. (Pretty sure we've had releases but no release threads until the next day before?) Maybe they really are trying to hide this (at least on the forum), but I'm skeptical. It is on the front page, not prominently but under "Featured Deals" and fifth on the carousel.
Interesting.

Could be GOG messing up also. I'm sure there's been plenty of times that GOG hasn't had a release thread for a game, but I'd like to think this would be different. Wouldn't surprise me to see a release post later today as a way for them to save face here either.

Senran Kagura is a Japanese game, which is something sorely lacking on GOG, and I know people have wanted these here for a while. If it were me, I'd want to advertise that.

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clarry: Really sad if true. Seems moderation is too lax though. Thoughtful critique (and pointing out things like missing features / drm / etc) should be welcome but most eroge release threads are half-full of nothing but hate for the genre itself and that gets derailed into a stupid argument about.. well, let's not even go there. Doesn't reflect well on the community. Unfortunately outsiders who pass by won't realize it's a vocal minority throwing a hissy fit.
Yeah, I agree. Along with the thought that the moderation here is way too lax in release posts. I think GOG needs to step up here and take control of these release posts.

Game release threads are not the same as a thread in the general forums. A release thread is a post where GOG is announcing a business partner's game release, and it's a place where relevant information can be shared that might affect someones purchase or not.

Again, these are business partners of GOG who're releasing software here, and it's unprofessional for GOG to let the threads advertising the game to run amok. All it does is turn away potential buyers because they've seen what the conversation has turned into. That hurts the studio bringing the game over to GOG and GOG themselves. I can totally believe that there's publishers / developers out there who are not happy with what GOG is doing in that regard.

GOG needs to show a little backbone, and make it clear that just because you don't like something that released on GOG that doesn't mean it's okay for you to hijack a game release thread where it turns into mudslinging and slandering the game / developers. The people who are responsible for that kind of thing should be temp banned so the behavior is adjusted, and if it doesn't get adjusted after several temp bans, then they should be permanently banned from the forums.

And no, I'm not saying that people shouldn't be able to post or talk about their dislike for certain games showing on GOG. I fully supporting that kind of dialogue, but a game release thread is not the place for those kinds of discussions.
Post edited August 09, 2022 by TomNuke
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RedRagan: I think this is fine
It's not fine, because GOG's lack of advertising of the game, and lack of formally announcing the game, both serve to minimize the amount of people who will know the game has been released on GOG, and therefore it will also minimize sales of that game on GOG.

In turn, that is likely to cause the other games in this series never to appear on GOG. And/or it could also potentially cause XSeed to skip GOG on even more of their non-Senran future releases of games.
Bumping thread to spread the news of glorious booba.

For those concerned about GOG's apparent slip up in advertising the release... Well, while I can't read minds or tell the future, I don't think there is need for alarm yet. Some things to consider before getting upset or concerned:

1. GOG has been slow to make news posts about game arrivals before. They often show up a few hours or a day later.

2. There's *a teeny tiny chance* it might mean there is more from the dev/pub on the way, but they haven't got everything in order yet (or someone pushed the release early).
Why do I think this? Let's look at Seed of the Dead: Sweet Home's release. GOG never made a news post about the game. However, a little while later they made a news post when the rest of that publisher's titles arrived on the store. And that included the original Seed of the Dead game. Sweet Home was also linked in the news post - though still not formally announced, at least it had some presence.

I'm not saying it's concrete evidence. I think 1 is more likely than 2. But I will keep my fingers crossed for 2 anyway. :P
Post edited August 09, 2022 by milkyhighway
Adding my two cents... why not.


I usually don't give a damn about the hentai games and most "adult" games but fine with them being sold so long as there is proper labeling BEFORE needing to click on a game to find out it's for a much older audience.. not after.. so you can steer away from those as you so choose. Better yet, opt out of seeing games that are above a certain age rating if that's how you want your page to look.

In this game ( and series as a whole ), these are the least adult "adult" games I've seen and that's saying something. More recent games also have the options of turning off certain modes or clothes tearing so there isn't even a need to have more than one version or patch each game to keep them playable for the different types of people that would still be interested.

As far as this game not being formally announced like all other games, I do think this is a very big mistake. I take it GOG doesn't know that the SK games have a very sizeable female audience, especially for the type of game and humor it comes with. Even devs and publisher were surprised but not disappointed in finding it out themselves when they made an announcement some years back I think it was or sooner... I don't remember when it was, honestly.

This really is a huge disservice to this game and series as a whole if this is how they plan to go about it.
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FrostburnPhoenix: Why is GOG labeling a M rated game's store page as 18+ only again?

Is this different from previously released versions or is GOG just being stupid?
There's a difference between M-rated and 18+ rated?
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FrostburnPhoenix: Why is GOG labeling a M rated game's store page as 18+ only again?

Is this different from previously released versions or is GOG just being stupid?
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Shadowstalker16: There's a difference between M-rated and 18+ rated?
Yeah, and quite a big one at that. 17+ is for "Mature" rated games, which is what Senran Kagura was rated by American ratings boards, same rating as Cyberpunk 2077 for example which is placed behind a 17+ warning.

18+ is reserved for titles that would be marked as "Adult Only" on Steam. Or "AO" titles by the ESRB. Usually this is for titles with explicit sexual content and graphic nudity" neither which apply to Senran Kagura. In rare cases games with extreme violence and gore can also get an "AO" rating, and example of that would be Hatred (not on GOG).

GOG placing it behind an 18+ warning is giving it a "porn" label, which would be inaccurate and might give some users the impression of the game being something it's not.
Post edited August 09, 2022 by TomNuke
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Shadowstalker16: There's a difference between M-rated and 18+ rated?
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TomNuke: Yeah, and quite a big one at that. 17+ is for "Mature" rated games, which is what Senran Kagura was rated by American ratings boards, same rating as Cyberpunk 2077 for example which is placed behind a 17+ warning.

18+ is reserved for titles that would be marked as "Adult Only" on Steam. Or "AO" titles by the ESRB. Usually this is for titles with explicit sexual content and graphic nudity" neither which apply to Senran Kagura. In rare cases games with extreme violence and gore can also get an "AO" rating, and example of that would be Hatred (not on GOG).

GOG placing it behind an 18+ warning is giving it a "porn" label, which would be inaccurate and might give some users the impression of the game being something it's not.
I see, thanks for the clarification. Its funny how stuff like GTA or indeed CP2077 get away with 17+ ratings while Hatred, an isometric edgelord simulator gets AO. I also recall Rockstar's Manhunt being rated AO and being controversial and all over non-gaming media. Some good free PR that must've been.
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TomNuke: Yeah, and quite a big one at that. 17+ is for "Mature" rated games, which is what Senran Kagura was rated by American ratings boards, same rating as Cyberpunk 2077 for example which is placed behind a 17+ warning.
I think the reason is that in Europe you only have PEGI18 and that cover, violent, porn, etc... you don't have two different ratting.

For example Cyberpunk, GTA V, God of War are all PEGI18, funnily enough all the Senran Kagura games are all PEGI16 but it's probably due to Europe being sensitive about nudity.
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tfishell: A longshot: iirc, someone on the forum claimed that there was some eroge company/publisher that almost wanted to stop releasing here because of the fits some people were throwing in the release threads.
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clarry: Really sad if true. Seems moderation is too lax though. Thoughtful critique (and pointing out things like missing features / drm / etc) should be welcome but most eroge release threads are half-full of nothing but hate for the genre itself and that gets derailed into a stupid argument about.. well, let's not even go there. Doesn't reflect well on the community. Unfortunately outsiders who pass by won't realize it's a vocal minority throwing a hissy fit.
And what about "outsiders" that get pushed porn games in "Games for you" section of GOG game store page? Would you let your kids browse the GOG catalogue as is?

I would have thought that you guys who are so into porn would be more inclined to buying your porn games on dedicated porn game sites and have a community of like minded individuals instead of trying to turn every games store into porn store. You know, put your money where your mouth is and support the cause and not trying to push your agenda on everybody by turning every aspect of our life into NSFW porn den.

It is strange that you also cry for lack of moderation when you even managed to implement the removal of down vote button so that "outsiders" wouldn't actually realize that you are getting down voted by majority of users, and not just some "minority" as you claim.

I really like the irony of people constantly complaining about censorship going through so much effort to keep the critiques quiet. :)
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Gersen: I think the reason is that in Europe you only have PEGI18 and that cover, violent, porn, etc... you don't have two different ratting.

For example Cyberpunk, GTA V, God of War are all PEGI18, funnily enough all the Senran Kagura games are all PEGI16 but it's probably due to Europe being sensitive about nudity.
Yeah, I know about PEGI, but if that's the case why is Cyberpunk behind a 17+ age rating and Senran Kagura is 18+. Your PEGI ratings say GOG is wrong because Senran Kagura has a lower age rating than Cyberpunk 2077. God of War and GTA aren't on GOG, but they'd probably be 17+ also.

ESRB and PEGI are both saying no to Senran Kagura being 18+. Maybe it's all just GOG politics at play here... No idea, but I mean, GOG has been strong with the woke virtue signaling as of late. And if they think the majority of their community is against certain things, which could trigger them, then maybe there's some truth to it.