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General discussionRelease: <b>SENRAN KAGURA SHINOVI VERSUS</b>(98 posts) (98 posts) 
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Posted August 09, 2022
Join a team of brave heroines and take part in an epic shinobi battle.
Genre: Action
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Warning: adult content
Posted August 12, 2022
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Clownski_: I'd like to make some things clear regarding the ongoing discussion in this thread.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Are you able to say anything about about whether or not XSeed's other Senran Kagura games are coming to GOG?

And/or are you able to say anything about whether or not XSeed's other Senran Kagura games will be coming to GOG will be dependent upon how many copies of Shinovi Versus are sold on GOG?

Or if you would need XSeed's permission before you can say anything about that, then could someone from GOG please consult XSeed behind the scenes, and then GOG and XSeed can issue a mutually-approved statement about whether or not XSeed intends to release the other SK games on GOG, and what, if any, will be the contributing factors to those decisions?

A lot of the reason for why many GOG customers are making a big deal out of the warning on the GOG storepage is because we are worried the warning might decrease sales of the game due to the stigma, and in turn, maybe cause the other SK games never to appear on GOG.

But if there is a good chance that the other SK games will be coming to GOG regardless of Shinovi Versus' sales numbers on GOG, then that would allay most of the concerns from GOG customers that we might be stuck unable to get the other SK games on GOG due to GOG's warning page.

In other words, if GOG & XSeed together are able to give GOG customers any kind of reassurance that they both have a strong intention to release all of the SK games on GOG that XSeed has the rights to, then that reassurance would make the heated discussion about the warning page become a mostly moot point that doesn't matter...which would be a win/win for everyone.

So, if there is any means by which GOG & XSeed can be transparent & forthright with GOG's customers about what's up with the other SK games coming to GOG, or not ... then please do so.
Money talks, if this initial game doesn't sell well Xseed may decide that the interest isn't here and that it isn't worth the effort to release the games on GOG.
Posted August 12, 2022
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GOG.com: Join a team of brave heroines and take part in an epic shinobi battle.
Genre: Action
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Please bring those here, too. Please vote everyone!

"Senran Kagura Estival Versus"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=senran%20kagura%20estival%20

"Senran Kagura Peach Beach Splash"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=senran%20kagura%20peach%20beach

"Senran Kagura Burst Re:Newel"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=senran%20kagura%20burst

"Senran Kagura Reflexions"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=senran%20kagura%20reflexions

"Senran Kagura Peach Ball"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=senran%20kagura%20peach%20ball

"Senran Kagura Bon Appetit!"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=senran%20kagura%20bon

"OneeChanbara Z2"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=onechanbara%20z2

"OneeChanbara Origin"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=onechanbara%20origin

"SG/ZH - School Girl/Zombie Hunter"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=SG/ZH

"Valkyrie Drive Bhikkhuni"
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games#search=valkyrie%20drive
Post edited August 12, 2022 by Anime-BlackWolf
Posted August 12, 2022
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wolfsite: Money talks, if this initial game doesn't sell well Xseed may decide that the interest isn't here and that it isn't worth the effort to release the games on GOG.
Yup, and that's the crux of why all of this is a problem. GOG not tweeting about the game, GOG not announcing the game in a news post until a day or two after it already came out, GOG not promoting the game in their Newsletter, the game's banner linking to the "RPG sale" and not the actual store page of the game for some time until GOG eventually fixed it, GOG mislabeling it as an 18+ AO game even though that's not an accurate characterization of the game's content at all...all of these things are very likely to minimize the sales potential of this game on GOG.

And that's going to be a real shame if the other SK games never come here because this game got mired in so much of that kind of unfair, sales-destroying crap which I just described.
Post edited August 12, 2022 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Posted August 12, 2022
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Clownski_: Unless I missed such a release, I don't think we're using 17+ warning for other games that also depict damage by the deterioration of young looking girls' outfits.
Oh, it appears you're accidentally listing a non-PC ESRB rating in the case I was thinking of. XSEED either needs to get this game rated or remove it from GOG because this is unacceptable.
Posted August 12, 2022
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Anime-BlackWolf: ...
+1 for all

Now that the technical difficulty preventing SK from being released here seems to have been "fixed" hopefully it means that at least the other game in the series will be releasing here.
Posted August 12, 2022
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Clownski_: Unless I missed such a release, I don't think we're using 17+ warning for other games that also depict damage by the deterioration of young looking girls' outfits.
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FrostburnPhoenix: Oh, it appears you're accidentally listing a non-PC ESRB rating in the case I was thinking of. XSEED either needs to get this game rated or remove it from GOG because this is unacceptable.
Send an email to the publisher of this game that you demand this game to be removed from this particular store.
Posted August 12, 2022
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Clownski_: Unless I missed such a release, I don't think we're using 17+ warning for other games that also depict damage by the deterioration of young looking girls' outfits.
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FrostburnPhoenix: Oh, it appears you're accidentally listing a non-PC ESRB rating in the case I was thinking of. XSEED either needs to get this game rated or remove it from GOG because this is unacceptable.
I don't understand this fuss about the game's rating. it's already a supreme miracle if after I don't know how many years we have the game on GOG, after it had been abandoned in limbo. Now it's finally here, complete with every feature, and as usual everyone is complaining about the most useless things.

If you really care about seeing more similar games on this platform, buy it, gift it to friends, and let as many people as possible know about it. If there is money to be made from it, XSEED won't miss the opportunity.
Posted August 12, 2022
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Clownski_: Unless I missed such a release, I don't think we're using 17+ warning for other games that also depict damage by the deterioration of young looking girls' outfits.
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FrostburnPhoenix: Oh, it appears you're accidentally listing a non-PC ESRB rating in the case I was thinking of. XSEED either needs to get this game rated or remove it from GOG because this is unacceptable.
What is unnacceptable?
No pc rating?
Post edited August 12, 2022 by Fonzer
Posted August 12, 2022
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Fonzer: What is unnacceptable?
No pc rating?
Falsely being listed as 18+. But yes I hope XSEED can get it rated so everyone except XYcat will be happy.
Posted August 12, 2022
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FrostburnPhoenix: Falsely being listed as 18+. But yes I hope XSEED can get it rated so everyone except XYcat will be happy.
Honestly I don't think rating is really important anywhere other than retail. And the stigma for AO games is both a US and retail thing. It's not like there is any special "age verification" that exists on Gog and peoples that will be traumatized by the age warning are probably not the game target audience anyway.
Posted August 12, 2022
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Gersen: Honestly I don't think rating is really important anywhere other than retail. And the stigma for AO games is both a US and retail thing. It's not like there is any special "age verification" that exists on Gog and peoples that will be traumatized by the age warning are probably not the game target audience anyway.
The 18+ warning is technically age verification. (with rather little in the way of verification)

Whether or 16-17 year-olds will be pulled in, repelled off, or both by the warning is clearly up in the air. Before you comment on me listing 16-17 year-olds as target audience, I will note that if you do some research you will find that the franchise is/was marketed towards both seinen and shonen demographics.
Posted August 12, 2022
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Clownski_: Unless I missed such a release, I don't think we're using 17+ warning for other games that also depict damage by the deterioration of young looking girls' outfits.
In any case, that's the furthest I'm gonna delve into this subject.
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tremere110: Uhhhhh... I’m probably gonna regret this but...

The entire Akiba’s Trip series doesn’t have any warning whatsoever (no 17+ or 18+). The entire premise is removing peoples’ clothing (granted not just young girls).

And yes you can destroy underwear in at least one of those games with a clothes destroying streak (it’s censored of course).
I can attest to this and when released it hadn't any warning to it like this game does either
Posted August 12, 2022
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Alexim: I don't understand this fuss about the game's rating.
I'm making a fuss about the rating only for this reason: because when I reflected upon the point that others made about how the rating is likely to hinder sales by giving people the false and misleading impression that it's an AO Hentai game featuring full nudity and/or intercourse-type content - even though it actually is not and does not - since that has the potential to greatly hinder the sales of this game, it is also therefore likely to hinder the release of other SK games on GOG.

I did do as you suggest, and I bought this game on GOG to support XSeed for releasing it.

But I'm going to be mighty peeved in the event the other SK games never come to GOG because of low sales, especially in light of multiple actions & inactions that GOG took which are likely to contribute to the lack of sufficient sales of this game on GOG.

As for your advice to tell your friends and people you know about this game: sure, that is good advice.

But something that would be much more effective than that would be for GOG itself to publish a Newsletter post for this SK game being released on GOG, just like they did with "Cult of Lamb" that was released afterwards.

Why does Cult of Lamb get a Newsletter Announcement advertising its release on GOG, yet this SK game gets none?

How many tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands (I don't know many Newsletters subs GOG has), of potential buyers of this SK game - and who already have an established history with GOG, so they are much easier to sell to than cold approach new customers like "telling your friends and family" would be - will not buy it simply because GOG deliberately neglected to advertise it in their Newsletter, and as a result of GOG not doing that, they have no clue that the game even has been released on GOG?

There is a very legitimate point to be made about how GOG's actions & inactions in regards to this release may well contribute to the sales of this game becoming stifled.
Post edited August 12, 2022 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Posted August 12, 2022
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FrostburnPhoenix: Oh, it appears you're accidentally listing a non-PC ESRB rating in the case I was thinking of. XSEED either needs to get this game rated or remove it from GOG because this is unacceptable.
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Alexim: I don't understand this fuss about the game's rating. it's already a supreme miracle if after I don't know how many years we have the game on GOG, after it had been abandoned in limbo. Now it's finally here, complete with every feature, and as usual everyone is complaining about the most useless things.

If you really care about seeing more similar games on this platform, buy it, gift it to friends, and let as many people as possible know about it. If there is money to be made from it, XSEED won't miss the opportunity.
It's not a fuss about rating. Nobody gives a shit about that, especially not the people who actually want to buy this game or similar games like this, as seen in the posts by the people who expressed that they're actually happy about the release, and in the reviews. The game is marketed here with a little info on the gamecard saying "This Game may contain content not appropriate for all ages, or may not be appropriate for viewing at work: Nudity or Sexual Content, General Mature Content" which is the exact same thing you can find on the steam's gamecard and with a similar thing on the official page of the game itself http://www.hanzonationalacademy.com/sksv/ where it has a Rating listing sexual themes etc. The publishers know it's a game with jiggly hooters as one of its main features, the stores know it's a game with jiggly hooters as one of its main features, and the target audience and customers know it too.

What you see here is completely artificial "drama" created by one of the most persistent local concern trolls, whom you can see concern trolling under almost every newspost, and one or two new and arguably weirder trolls that came up with "anime bias" (lol) that GOG is oppressing them with.

The "click to confirm you're over certain age" screens have been around for a long time now and nobody ever gave a shit. Everyone skips it, nobody reads it, the GOG's one doesn't even have you input some real or fake age number to get rid of it like the steam one does. So you can guess how much "lost sales" this one click might come to. This is not really about sales or marketing or whatever. This entire thread is a troll trap created out of a non-issue and fed by concerntrolling bullshit.

It has no resolution and it's not supposed to have some resolution. This thread will only get buried in time when the trolls get bored of it and move to some new post to troll. Something spicy next monday or tuesday.
Posted August 12, 2022
Well look at that, may not be a full response, but it’s something.

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Clownski_: That's true. They get paid by the hour.
I sure hope they get paid by the hour, but that’s the issue, no sane lawyer would have recommended that. When you brand a video game, movie, magazine, etc. to be 18+, 99.9% of the time, it’s porn. You took-it upon yourself to label an intellectual property that does not belong to you as pornographic. You’ve essentially slandered XSEED/Maverlous and Tamsoft’s intellectual property. If a group of lawyers actually told you to do that, then you should shitcan them because at a minimum, they’ve made you loose a business partner and at worst, it could turn into a lawsuit.
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Clownski_: We literally held Moon Festival event, featuring games from all sorts of Asian devs/publishers, last month.
Yeah, about that:
1- You screwed-up the event, Star Festival is in July, Moon Festival is in August, in 3 days -_-
2- I’ve been checking GOG.com on a daily bases since 2018, I’ve never seen a year with so little releases and so many sales. Let’s not pretend that this “Moon Festival” as you called it was anything special compared to all the other ones you previously had.
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Clownski_: My personal opinion? If you think there's some sort of bias or phobia here, then it might just be you who's actively looking for anything resembling such a thing.
1- I’m not the first person here who thinks that
2- When it walks like a duck, swims like a duck... well you know.
Post edited August 13, 2022 by Waifu4Life
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