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Dude, I totally missed you.

Paradise Lost, the unhinged expansion pack for the unsavory cult hit POSTAL 2 is finally available DRM-free on GOG.com.

Post(al)-apocalypse has never been so wack! The Dude ventures back into his former hometown looking for his lost dog but instead finds trouble in all shapes, sizes, and heartbeats. The citizens have gone nuclearly insane, gotten themselves zombified, joined freaky factions (sort of the same thing, really), and pretty much given the Dude plenty of reasons to turn them into radioactive pulp as he free-roams this loco land.
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Mountian_Savage: I don't really care for e-movements and their related drama, but the guys in charge of the twitter account don't know how to handle PR. You don't make a tweet promoting a controversial game and then delete it and apologize. It makes no sense promoting it in the first place if you weren't prepared for the (insignificant) backlash.
This.
If you make a statement, stick to it
If you don't, don't bother making the statement to begin with
I don't want to have these kinds of misgivings about GoG to begin with but when they do shit like this?
For fuck's sake...
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EDIT: Disregard this post - quotes reference wrong posters.
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Hastur-: Bingo. If you're not doing any of those things, then GOG wasn't referring to you and you have nothing to worry about.
Then why delete the tweet with a scene taken directly from a game on your platform and disown it for "hate"? You can't have it both ways.
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Linko90: Past threads were deleted due to the sheer volume of them on the front page, we don't need four threads on one topic
Sheer volume = 4, what? Abusive movement....right. Honestly you as a company should just stay out of politics but you have chosen censorship.

On the other hand fitting behaviour for the topic at hand as a mod(sarcasm off).
Post edited July 19, 2018 by Arundir
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Linko90: Past threads were deleted due to the sheer volume of them on the front page, we don't need four threads on one topic
Deleting and/or locking threads after a GoG employee has responded without giving us the chance to respond back isn't ideal at all. Furthermore using a release thread as a containment thread is poor form. I feel bad for RWS because they gave to put up with this in the release thread for their game.
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Hastur-: Bingo. If you're not doing any of those things, then GOG wasn't referring to you and you have nothing to worry about.
I'm not a shit-slinging, wailing hyper-consumer, nazi, misogynist basement-dwelling neckbeard either - but I had the strong feeling that all those articles published that described gamers as such were somehow still talking about me.
Post edited July 19, 2018 by tremere110
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NEVER APOLOGIZE
for speaking your mind on social media.

Gog staff made a mistake by apologizing and deleting tweets and giving in to the SJW demands. They showed weakness.

Gog should have stuck to his guns.


Let the Liberal Snowflakes on twitter keep complaining and whining about gamergate. It's not like they buy a lot of games on gog.
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Mountian_Savage: I don't really care for e-movements and their related drama, but the guys in charge of the twitter account don't know how to handle PR. You don't make a tweet promoting a controversial game and then delete it and apologize. It makes no sense promoting it in the first place if you weren't prepared for the (insignificant) backlash.
I think that GOG actually were prepared. Because while tweet is deleted, a news post on VG247 remains, serving as an ad for the new Postal 2 DLC (seriously, I didn't even know about Paradise Lost before seeing the forum threads here). So, mission accomplished!
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Mountian_Savage: I don't really care for e-movements and their related drama, but the guys in charge of the twitter account don't know how to handle PR. You don't make a tweet promoting a controversial game and then delete it and apologize. It makes no sense promoting it in the first place if you weren't prepared for the (insignificant) backlash.
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LootHunter: I think that GOG actually were prepared. Because while tweet is deleted, a news post on VG247 remains, serving as an ad for the new Postal 2 DLC (seriously, I didn't even know about Paradise Lost before seeing the forum threads here). So, mission accomplished!
Eh?
I still see the article showing up for their whole
"We will be pulling our support from GoG for this" thing showing up and nothing about Postal 2 DLC
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O.K. I have to confess two things:
1) I never cared about Gamergate, never actually understood what it was/is all about and I probably never will.
2) I never did read the other thread which is now deleted (according to posts here).

So with this said I still want to say that deleting complete threads without giving anyone the possibility anymore to judge for themselves sounds very much like censoring for me. I would agree to do this in case that the thread were basically just insults without any actual conversation in it but I would hate it if GOG would now start to delete threads left and right just because they could be too provocative.

Deleting or editing single posts is one thing but deleting whole threads without a trace imo is questionable. I am aware that GOG is responsible for everything posted in their forums and I also am aware that they decide what should stay in it and what not. But please be careful in deciding how extreme this should be moderated and which measures you take.
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Hastur-: Bingo. If you're not doing any of those things, then GOG wasn't referring to you and you have nothing to worry about.
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BlueAxolotl: Then why delete the tweet with a scene taken directly from a game on your platform and disown it for "hate"? You can't have it both ways.
Btw, Hastur- didn't say that. The quote is from a deleted thread, and the post number just happens to match Hastur-'s post.
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While i was never part of GamerGate in any way i do fucking despise a large portion of gaming journalism and their constant stream of shit articles where they overreact about every issue under the sun.

I also do despise people sending death threats and similar stuff even if they hate the person in question but GOG could have approached this situation better and much earlier instead making it seem like "gamers" are bad and i hope this shit won't ever happen again, no really never again.

Luckily i won't stop buying on GOG over this debacle because i still want my drm free games so fuck Steam but learn from this pls.
Post edited July 19, 2018 by ChrisGamer300
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BlueAxolotl: Then why delete the tweet with a scene taken directly from a game on your platform and disown it for "hate"? You can't have it both ways.
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plagren: Btw, Hastur- didn't say that. The quote is from a deleted thread, and the post number just happens to match Hastur-'s post.
Didn't know that, thanks for clearing that up.
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BlueAxolotl: Then why delete the tweet with a scene taken directly from a game on your platform and disown it for "hate"? You can't have it both ways.
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plagren: Btw, Hastur- didn't say that. The quote is from a deleted thread, and the post number just happens to match Hastur-'s post.
Correct. That was me that said that, not blue gog staff.
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Arinielle: Because it was still using GG. There was actual work being done but there was a lot of people that did also just jump into a hashtag because it's a hashtag that was getting attention.

When trying to make other places to discuss things without using Twitter, they fell through a lot of times because even having a Reddit page set up wasn't going to be allowed without being griefed to hell for shit that had nothing to do with those of us actually trying to figure all of this out now that we had found more of us in general that had some similar feelings about how games journalism was and then seeing things explode into what was dubbed GamerGate.

The movement itself was NOT something of hate and all this shit that keeps being spun but of course nobody cares and just talks shit about gamers as a whole that don't agree with whatever ideology they want to push.

A lot of those claiming GG was doing this horrible thing or that... was shit groups like Baph trying to cause a stir becaus they just thought it would be funny to see gamers keep being griefed.

It sucked. Badly. But no matter what, nobody fucking cared what we said and even GOG is saying we're a hate group. That outright sickens me.
So here's the thing... if there was any useful, actual work being done under the name of GamerGate before all the loons came along and made it what it became.. (assuming they weren't apart of it from the start) then why still fly that flag? Why not just change the name, associate yourself with another word and not sink to the death and rape threats that were associated with GG.
Because deny it all you like, but a lot of bad shit was said and done in the name of GG. It was all over this forum for months, so if those people weren't the core of the movement and weren't what it was actually about why not just let them have the hashtag and go and be civilised humans trying to make a point somewhere else?


GOG made a blunder, that blunder was probably tweeting the GIF at all in the first place. Let's face it, any business tweeting images of someone pissing on a grave is likely to get some flak for it.
They rectified that blunder to save face and maintain the proper corporate image.
Who honestly cares beyond that? If removing a tweet is enough to make you stop shopping here then you have some serious issues with priorities.
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BlueAxolotl: Then why delete the tweet with a scene taken directly from a game on your platform and disown it for "hate"? You can't have it both ways.
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plagren: Btw, Hastur- didn't say that. The quote is from a deleted thread, and the post number just happens to match Hastur-'s post.
It's how it was saved, and I copied it quickly when seeing it wasn't going through. Checked for the thread and it was gone. I was the one that posted it so it appearing as such is what is left. I don't recall even who I was answering to but had quoted them and saved it with my post when it wasn't going through.

So if it wasn't said by Hastur, I'm sorry it looks like that. :/ Ugh
Wow. Not since the release of Planescape: Torment Enhanced Edition has an official release thread turned into such a vat of diarrhea.