Dogmaus: you get the achievement of being a bitter little hobbit. FYI not all achievents are do something x times, and some are related to easter eggs or unusual choices in a game and are very satisfactory for many players. Expecially in such a story driven game, I can expect the achievements being very creative. In Amanita's Pilgrims it was a way of knowing when you have exhausted every possibility and all the ideas and a push to replay that little gem, for example. It's not fluff to me and many others, why would someone be so angry about the way other people enjoy their games XD
FrodoBaggins: I, and many others, enjoy playing a game just for the sake of playing the game. We enjoy the characters, and getting lost in the game world. How does that make me bitter?
Having pop-ups appearing every 2 seconds, saying 'You've Done This' or 'You've Done That', doesn't mean it's suddenly a better game.
And if you enjoy the game, you would replay it anyway.
THANK YOU! you read my mind! In my honest opinion, if a game needs achievements popping up to be fun, the game was not fun enough to begin with. I love games that are very fun all on their own. If people can get their achievements, sure you know, I guess I don't care, but please give people the option to disable achievements. Nothing worse than the game refusing to let me unlock something just because it's tied to an achievement I don't care about, or can't really do for a variety of good reasons, or simply do not want to do, right? I don't like being forced to do things in games, really shatters my immersion.
I'm glad achievements as a gimmick seem to have run their course because I felt that they always ended up stuck to so many games and it always felt forced, like I was being patronized for doing a good job by getting praise for being forced to do a task I didn't actually want to do, which ruined the immersion of many games. Pretty much every single game I ever played that contained achievements, seemed to only contain achievements because the game felt empty and required another distraction for the player.
This is just my opinion, but I've made that opinion based on a combination of some good solid facts. Everyone is welcome to disagree of course, and I'm sure many will, but I certainly can not just sit by and watch someone with a pretty fair and honest opinion and perspective just get low rating mob-down-voted for simply sharing their opinion.
Shocking how hostile things are.
FrodoBaggins: No, I just get frustrated when some people think that games are worthless without extra fluff.
ZFR: Why? If for them having a popup "you've achieved x" is what makes the game worthwhile, why is that a reason for you to get frustrated?
You, as you said, enjoy playing the game for the sake of playing. They enjoy those little popups. Are those snide comments of yours that you keep writing necessary? The superior holier-than-thou attitude? How about letting others enjoy what they enjoy.
Honestly, sincerely, what is "snide" or "frustrated" about literally anything they said? Can you actually point out the specific places where their comments are "snide" or "frustrated"? All I see is someone getting attacked for having a simple opinion. They're doing a pretty good job of explaining why they hold this opinion, and in a polite way as well.
Why such hostility, to an opinion? are they not allowed to have this opinion?
"Holier-than-thou"? Seriously? for having. an. opinion.
Wow.
True, unless they do not want to be tracked or have spy-ware internet connected drm type stuff in the game (Which I am NOT saying this game has or hasn't, since I do not know) There is of course the ability to rely on peoples often passionate reviews of the game they play. I often play a game to completion or as far as I am able (assuming nothing goes wrong) and then I leave very long reviews detailing my experience, either without spoilers, or with an adequate spoiler warning of course.
case in point, achievements being a means of tracking people doesn't really make them fun or necessary. Just saying.
Kryornis: I was waiting for this one but since it doesn't have achievements here, I'll pass until they are added.
I'm just trying to learn, but isn't the game the most important part of the game? If you know that you achieved what you wanted to achieve in a game, isn't that the most important?