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Posted June 29, 2018
Coming of Age.

Myst III: Exile and Myst IV: Revelation are now available DRM-free, only on GOG.com.
The saga is now complete so check out our Myst Sale with the rest of the series -now fine-tuned for improved Win10 stability, among other things- going for up to -65% off until July 8, 10pm UTC. Goshdarn classics, the lot of them.

Myst III: Exile takes place 10 years after Riven, when an enigmatic man breaks into Atrus' study and steals the Releeshahn book as part of his plan to exact revenge upon the wise explorer's sons.

The final showdown between Atrus and his malicious sons takes center stage in Myst IV: Revelation. We must once again travel to wondrous worlds and conquer brain-twisting puzzles in pursuit of Atrus' scheming offspring. As in the rest of the series, our choices will dramatically change the final outcome of this battle of wits.
Posted June 29, 2018
A bit too pricey for me, but I'm amazed how many great classics have been brought here for the last few months. Some of them I considered impossible (Curse of Monkey Island!).

When I was purchasing Real Myst I wondered if I should ever expect M3 and M4 here. And - here they are!

Thank you, GOG!
Posted June 29, 2018
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SirPrimalform: My theory is that the team at Ubi were incredibly inexperienced at working with pre-rendered graphics and forgot to re-render some of the assets when the master model changed. I don't remember Myst III having the same sort of problems, but then Presto were old hands by that point having made 4 Journeyman Project games.
I was confused a bit since I never knew about a fourth one of these games (btw: German versions are missing here as well @GOG ;)). Then it seems the forth one never was released:

"Development on this title began immediately following the success of Legacy of Time and was scheduled for an October 2000 release date. The game's story and design were written and a working prototype was shown at E3 1998[, but the project was shelved early in pre-production. "
Post edited June 29, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted June 29, 2018
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Kayx291: Now we need only one thing.....we need Pyst.
No we don't. Pyst is an unfunny glorified slideshow which is both an insult to the series and to comedy in general. It's the kind of dumb parody that you'd see in a Illuminations Film or Dreamworks.
Posted June 29, 2018
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MIK0: I still wonder what 3 million dollar of that campaign are for, as most of the games were already available and the missing one got released in a couple of month. Still lack full support for linux and mac and they'll probably add some languages and compatibility but I don't think that would require so much money even taking into account the physical edition.
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SirPrimalform: You realise the campaign wasn't for 3 million dollars, right? They asked for $247,500, mainly to make the manufacture of the more expensive physical tiers plausible. The fact that they got nearly $3m is simply testament to the popularity of the series and the items they were offering.
Sure (as I said, even taking into account the physical edition). It's not like 3 millions are for porting the games. But it is also true that not all the 3 millions went into producing physical items. And usually there are stretch goal for using money beyond the original scope.
The original scope was to port all the games to digital platform and to produce physical items.
Now, the only missing games from the collection were Myst III and IV, released today. The main issue was probably getting the license.
Noone of the game in the series requires too much work as there is no intention of remastering them (nor providing less compressed assets).
The other issue is porting the game to mac and linux. Scummvm and residualvm could do that but for later games wrappers are needed. They are both cheap solution anyway, so I don't expect much money being spent on that.
In my opinion this collection would have happened anyway. The only reason I see for a crowdfunding was for the physical items, which as you say are really expensive (and good looking). But the campaign was worded in a way that it would seem it was required to produce the digital collection, which I don't think it's true.
However it had the benefit of bringing the scummvm team to push support for the early games more than they would have done naturally without the support from Cyan, so that indeed is a good thing.
Posted June 29, 2018
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MarkoH01: I was confused a bit since I never knew about a fourth one of these games (btw: German versions are missing here as well @GOG ;)). Then it seems the forth one never was released:
No, I'm talking about JP1, JP2, JP: Pegasus Prime and JP3. Pegasus Prime is a ground up remake so even though there were only three episodes in the story they made four games from a development perspective.
Posted June 29, 2018
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MarkoH01: I was confused a bit since I never knew about a fourth one of these games (btw: German versions are missing here as well @GOG ;)). Then it seems the forth one never was released:
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SirPrimalform: No, I'm talking about JP1, JP2, JP: Pegasus Prime and JP3. Pegasus Prime is a ground up remake so even though there were only three episodes in the story they made four games from a development perspective.
Also did not know about this remake. Thank you for letting me know :)
Posted June 29, 2018
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MarkoH01: Also did not know about this remake. Thank you for letting me know :)
It's right here on GOG! In fact we don't have the original version of JP1 since it's a real pain to get running on modern computers. IIRC it's a 16 bit executable so playing it on any 64 bit version of Windows without using a virtual machine is right out the window.
Posted June 29, 2018
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SirPrimalform: You realise the campaign wasn't for 3 million dollars, right? They asked for $247,500, mainly to make the manufacture of the more expensive physical tiers plausible. The fact that they got nearly $3m is simply testament to the popularity of the series and the items they were offering.
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MIK0: Sure (as I said, even taking into account the physical edition). It's not like 3 millions are for porting the games. But it is also true that not all the 3 millions went into producing physical items. And usually there are stretch goal for using money beyond the original scope.
The original scope was to port all the games to digital platform and to produce physical items.
Now, the only missing games from the collection were Myst III and IV, released today. The main issue was probably getting the license.
Noone of the game in the series requires too much work as there is no intention of remastering them (nor providing less compressed assets).
The other issue is porting the game to mac and linux. Scummvm and residualvm could do that but for later games wrappers are needed. They are both cheap solution anyway, so I don't expect much money being spent on that.
In my opinion this collection would have happened anyway. The only reason I see for a crowdfunding was for the physical items, which as you say are really expensive (and good looking). But the campaign was worded in a way that it would seem it was required to produce the digital collection, which I don't think it's true.
However it had the benefit of bringing the scummvm team to push support for the early games more than they would have done naturally without the support from Cyan, so that indeed is a good thing.
The one thing that I think is a part of it that's not really visible to us, is that Cyan had to pay money to Ubisoft to get control of Myst 3 and 4. We don't know how much money that was, but in one of the live AMA chats Rand suggested that the initial goal of the Kickstarter wouldn't have covered it, and that they were prepared to pay for it out of their own pocket, but the amount that the kickstarter ultimately made meant that it was covered. So I do agree that the digital collection would have happened anyway, but without the Kickstarter it would have been much more of a gamble.
Posted June 29, 2018
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MarkoH01: Also did not know about this remake. Thank you for letting me know :)
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SirPrimalform: It's right here on GOG! In fact we don't have the original version of JP1 since it's a real pain to get running on modern computers. IIRC it's a 16 bit executable so playing it on any 64 bit version of Windows without using a virtual machine is right out the window.
Wow! That's another surprise and an important one for me since I only own the original. Since the game is also on sale I probably should pick it up then. I guess it has some enhancements compared to the original?
Post edited June 29, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted June 29, 2018
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MIK0: Sure (as I said, even taking into account the physical edition). It's not like 3 millions are for porting the games. But it is also true that not all the 3 millions went into producing physical items. And usually there are stretch goal for using money beyond the original scope.
The original scope was to port all the games to digital platform and to produce physical items.
Now, the only missing games from the collection were Myst III and IV, released today. The main issue was probably getting the license.
Noone of the game in the series requires too much work as there is no intention of remastering them (nor providing less compressed assets).
The other issue is porting the game to mac and linux. Scummvm and residualvm could do that but for later games wrappers are needed. They are both cheap solution anyway, so I don't expect much money being spent on that.
In my opinion this collection would have happened anyway. The only reason I see for a crowdfunding was for the physical items, which as you say are really expensive (and good looking). But the campaign was worded in a way that it would seem it was required to produce the digital collection, which I don't think it's true.
However it had the benefit of bringing the scummvm team to push support for the early games more than they would have done naturally without the support from Cyan, so that indeed is a good thing.
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LuigiHann: The one thing that I think is a part of it that's not really visible to us, is that Cyan had to pay money to Ubisoft to get control of Myst 3 and 4. We don't know how much money that was, but in one of the live AMA chats Rand suggested that the initial goal of the Kickstarter wouldn't have covered it, and that they were prepared to pay for it out of their own pocket, but the amount that the kickstarter ultimately made meant that it was covered. So I do agree that the digital collection would have happened anyway, but without the Kickstarter it would have been much more of a gamble.
You could be right. My point was that without delopement involved (they are not developing a new product and they are not adding nothing to the current one), there were less risks and more of a fixed amount to secure the deal. It would have made sense anyway as the games are famous and sell well because highly requested so the money for the license are more likely to be repaid with sales.
Posted June 29, 2018
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MarkoH01: Wow! That's another surprise and an important one for me since I only own the original. Since the game is also on sale I probably should pick it up then. I guess it has some enhancements compared to the original?
It plays a lot smoother, more like JP2 than anything else and the graphics are about on that level too. IIRC some of the puzzles have been slightly reworked in order to be less frustrating etc. It's been a long time since I played the original though so I might be mis-remembering.
Posted June 29, 2018
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SirPrimalform: It's right here on GOG! In fact we don't have the original version of JP1 since it's a real pain to get running on modern computers. IIRC it's a 16 bit executable so playing it on any 64 bit version of Windows without using a virtual machine is right out the window.
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MarkoH01: Wow! That's another surprise and an important one for me since I only own the original. Since the game is also on sale I probably should pick it up then. I guess it has some enhancements compared to the original?
Pegasus Prime is basically a completely different game than JP1. Literally everything has been redesigned and rebuilt from the ground up. The story is the same, and some of the puzzles work the same way, but for the most part it's a bigger, better experience.
Posted June 29, 2018
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can finally complete my collection, thank you!!!!
Posted June 29, 2018
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Posted June 29, 2018
On the Myst 3 gamecard: "Please Note: Intel GPUs are not supported." - Is that, like, the onboard video card? Is that generally associated with laptops?
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