Orkhepaj. Thinking. Nice joke, dude! I'm not even sure that he isn't just a bot, programmed to spam in all anime-style games threads same things over and over again

And it's also funny that the opponent of porn talks and thinks about it much more than all of us put together...)

Lots of different issues being suggested in that post there. I'll address the points raised one by one:

1. I'm not buying into the idea that the phrase "for all we know" gives Ghostlight a carte blanche free pass to butcher the game, not disclose any reason for why they've done so, then be justified for doing on the basis that their defenders will use their silence as a springboard from which to fabricate fake but good-sounding reasons on their behalf for why the censorship is supposedly justified.

Thankfully, most consumers are not buying into that idea either, which is why this game if flopping very badly.

That is great news in these circumstances. Because if it didn't flop, then it's success would be sending the message that consumers welcome censorship, and hence cause more of it to occur in many other games too.

2. Valve having done other censorship-minded things in the past is a moot point; that has no relevance to this particular situation with the MS 2 game. There is zero evidence at all that Valve asked for it to be censored, and there is no reason to assume that they did.

3. If Valve did ask for it to be censored, then there would be no reason as to why Ghostlight couldn't publicly state that to be so.

Contrary to what that quoted post is implying, there is no such thing as an NDA between a dev like Ghostlight & Valve that would require Ghostlight not to make public statements if & when Valve asked them to censor a game.

Many other devs have publicly stated when Valve asked them to censor the game without any problem.

And they also hosted uncensor patches on their own web sites for free (which is also something that Ghostlight would be able to do with no problem, if Valve had demanded any Steam censorship).

4. If Ghostlight was asked to sign NDA with another party, like IFI as a hypothetical example, who asked them to censor the game, and then not to disclose who asked for the censorship, then Ghostlight still did that willingly and of their own volition.

So there being an NDA in that situation would not in any way excuse Ghostlight's behavior. NDA or not, it's still Ghostlight's fault for choosing to allow this to happen, and to participate in it deliberately.

5. If Ghostlight is so poor that they 'had to' censor the game because they couldn't afford to make both an uncensored real version and a butchered version too, then they shouldn't have agreed to handle the game.

They should have known that censoring the game is very insulting & disrespectful to the fans of the franchise, and that the fans don't want that. If they knew their financial limits would prevent them from giving the franchise and its fans the respect they deserve, then Ghostlight should have chosen to take a pass on handling the game at all.

And all of that is assuming that Ghostlight even had any sort of semi-legit reason in the first place to censor the game, which they probably didn't.

6. If, as that quoted post suggests may be so, Ghostlight's limited amount of money was the factor that led them to make only one censored version, and have no money left over an uncensored version too, then that decision has backfired.

Now, as a direct consequence of having butchered the game, Ghostlight will be taking in far less money than they would have been otherwise been taking in had they left the game uncensored and complete, like the Switch version is.

So, if they were only going to make one version, then the smarter thing to do, the thing that would have been in their own best interest, would have been to make it the original intact version.

Conclusion: no, Ghostlight is not defensible in this situation. On the contrary: their censorship actions are totally inexcusable.

The only good news in this situation is that the backlash and the massive flop that is MS 2 on PC may prevent similar censorship from occurring in the future, since IFI and other publishers are going to see the financial failure that happened here and be wary of repeating it with their own future releases.

You took a tiny section out of an 80 hour+ game and think you know what the focus of the game is - amazing.
But I am even more amazed that you'd call this porn. One time when you have grown up I might show you actual porn so that you know what you are talking about, kiddie,

You wrote a huge wall of text because you don't understand four simple words strung together or what Valve are doing. Well done. Have a bronze star.

Now that's both totally unexpected and a good news.

Edit : is it known if it restores for both MS2 and the included MS1 remake ?

wishlisted glad it has no needless porn in it

Apparently it is confirmed that it restore for both MS2 and the remake.

https://twitter.com/ghostlightgames/status/1484234542097518598

Now that the censorship issue has been resolved I will gladly buy Mary Skelter 2.

I had a lot of fun with Mary Sketler Nightmares and apparently Mary Skelter 2 is even better.

The game page does not list achievements under game features but it does have them for those who are interested.

Thank you both so much for sharing this! Decided to support them now by buying the game.

Makes me wonder if they'll allow GOG to host the patch. That they had to use an offsite patch sounds like a method to get around Steam's mysterious expectations, which shouldn't apply to GOG. And I always worry what will happen if/when the offsite host goes down.

edit: forgot to say thanks to both users

Given that they're now hosting a patch to restore content off of steam - they're pretty much saying it's steam's fault without actually saying it's steam's fault.

So, what do you have to say for yourself now? Still going to insist that Valve had nothing to do with the cut content?

Given they tell people they need to manually put the patch in even on GOG then I doubt they will host the patch on GOG or even allow it to be

Still makes no real sense they couldn't have had this patch up at release and mentioned rather then wait till after backlash. just saying is all

Nintendo will allow what Steam won't? What the hell is going on?