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General discussionRelease: Legacy of Kain™ Soul Reaver 1&2 Remastered(39 posts)(39 posts)
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Posted 2 days ago
Experience the epic conflict of Kain and Raziel in original form or with remastered graphics – Legacy of Kain™ Soul Reaver 1&2 Remastered is now available for on GOG!

Centuries after your former master, Kain, betrays and executes you, you rise again and embark on a relentless quest for revenge. Slay your former vampire brethren with your claws, bolts of telekinetic energy, and the elemental Wraith Blade. Grow stronger by devouring the souls of your enemies.

Now on GOG!
Posted 14 hours ago
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AHF1349: I think not including the originals is more a support issue for studios like Nightdive. They remastere the titles with new assets and often you get the option to switch between the old and the new look. They don't bother making the original port of the game compatible with modern systems as opposed to GOG who do exactly that.
There last couple of ND remaster didn't have that option sadly. Switching back to original look of the game. Here the thing if the owner of the IP don't want to sell the original version anymore GOG can't do anything.
Posted 14 hours ago
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AHF1349: I think not including the originals is more a support issue for studios like Nightdive. They remastere the titles with new assets and often you get the option to switch between the old and the new look. They don't bother making the original port of the game compatible with modern systems as opposed to GOG who do exactly that.
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Syphon72: There last couple of ND remaster didn't have that option sadly. Switching back to original look of the game. Here the thing if the owner of the IP don't want to sell the original version anymore GOG can't do anything.
You are right, the last titles titles where you could do that were actually by Aspyr but that is not my point. For IPs there are different levels of rights. Let's say you could get the rights for the single game "WarCraft: Orcs & Humans" that means you could sell it, port it to different platforms, etc. But you are *not* owning the WarCraft brand, means you cannot just suddenly make a WarCraft 4 or something like that.
Posted 13 hours ago
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BanditKeith2: I assume the ones behind it figured the options to switch between o.g graphics and new graphics was more then enough was why they didn't include at least the first one given the second game is still up at least for now anyway won't be surprised if it vanishes soon too
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JAAHAS: Well they figured wrong, as some of us actually have some, if not all of our older gaming computers still in working condition and thus we would like to be able to run the latest compatible versions on them without having to commit into downloading and keeping every single update for every single game backed up in multiple backup sets until we can find the time to determine which pointless in-between versions we can safely delete, not to mention the fact that future customers with a collection of old computers might also be buying more games from GOG if the older, but relevant versions could still be downloaded for any game that is still sold here.
And I was not saying they was right if thats what they assumed, though the more likely case was more concerned with getting the most money via the newest version even then that'd not excuse atleast throwing in the old version as a extra ..aside from the fact many people would think ''its a extra so there must be official support for it'' when many times devs and publishers would just support the newest version rather then the old version tossed in as a extra/bonus
Posted 5 hours ago
Been playing it, and I'm very underwhelmed. It's not a remaster at all. It's simply a mod of the original game at best. The textures for SR1 are great, but they messed up the day-night cycle making the game too dark at times. It is also now choppy with frametime stutters using original graphics. In other words...i think the work Wrace did is far superior to what is happening here.

SR2 already looked good, but they messed that up too. The reskinning is ok, but lacks facial animations. The textures are also downgraded in many many places.

The main issue here...Aspyr didn't do much at all. The director for this game is Raina Audron (real name I don't know). Raina Audron is not a professional at all, but merely the most obsessive LoK fan the world has ever seen. She also directed TR remasters. The only other real work she has ever done is a fan mod of the Saturn version of Soul Reaver. Hardly enough to get credentials to work professionally. As such, all these wacky decisions were made by her to suit how she wanted the game to be. Now, we have some clout chasing fan thinking they are awesome when they didn't do a damn thing at all, but modified someone else's work...poorly.

Worst of all, these are the folks who shit all over Wrace constantly for actually making the game work for 25 years on PC.

So, while i'm glad to see it back....these wacky fans need to sit down. I've never seen folks revel in work that is not theirs at all. Credit where it isn't due as it were.
Posted 3 hours ago
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Mobeeuz: Common sense alert: GOG can't force publishers to keep games up for sale. If you don't already own a title that's been removed but wanted it, that's on you.
No sense at all.
Even GOG can do more tban they do. ZOOM-Platform also as example of better preserving behavior.
Publishers can do more - do anything. Its still our rights to demand from them.

So you suggest behind the words to silence for others. Its should be you who silenced here, either go gtfo. If you was right its one thing. You completely wrong and your agenda is wrong here, maybe even self-righnous too much. You miss sense here for sure. This is not right moment to tell people what to do or teach them. Very bad and danger position to let both publishers and storefronts decide what we want from them.
Post edited 3 hours ago by QWEEDDYZ
Posted 3 hours ago
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RizzoCuoco: Been playing it, and I'm very underwhelmed. It's not a remaster at all. It's simply a mod of the original game at best. The textures for SR1 are great, but they messed up the day-night cycle making the game too dark at times. It is also now choppy with frametime stutters using original graphics. In other words...i think the work Wrace did is far superior to what is happening here.

SR2 already looked good, but they messed that up too. The reskinning is ok, but lacks facial animations. The textures are also downgraded in many many places.

The main issue here...Aspyr didn't do much at all. The director for this game is Raina Audron (real name I don't know). Raina Audron is not a professional at all, but merely the most obsessive LoK fan the world has ever seen. She also directed TR remasters. The only other real work she has ever done is a fan mod of the Saturn version of Soul Reaver. Hardly enough to get credentials to work professionally. As such, all these wacky decisions were made by her to suit how she wanted the game to be. Now, we have some clout chasing fan thinking they are awesome when they didn't do a damn thing at all, but modified someone else's work...poorly.

Worst of all, these are the folks who shit all over Wrace constantly for actually making the game work for 25 years on PC.

So, while i'm glad to see it back....these wacky fans need to sit down. I've never seen folks revel in work that is not theirs at all. Credit where it isn't due as it were.
No one sh!t on Wrace, for any meaning of that. Except for himself. He otherhand do sh!t on community. He prohibited to share even what is not his work, and he make Soul Reaver 1 been rollbacked on GOG and probably why its not restored to store.

Ofc he would said its not his fault. He can do said whatever he wat. Dont you dare to say same sh!t. When it's just him its his issue, when its more - its ours all issue. You do worst han him. Moreover, you do blame here persons who unaware of Wrace and his behavior at all. Did Wrace himself knew someone - someone personally as you said here - sh!t on him?

>I've never seen folks revel in work that is not theirs at all

Erm... Which remade-remake you know is not "folks in work not their"? You know, all original game esigners goes to kickstarter and unable to get enough money. When its coe to officially remaded games - publishers never brought original designer to work on it. Its always some random people working with random original version, not ultimate better not very original one. Just random platform region and revision. There is Crock Remaster where they said PlayStation version was original and base for remaster, while its a sega-sony port and worst of all 3 platforms version. Some cases worst, some easier. Soul Reaver 2 is ps2 game, sr1 at least ps1 are ok as original, better if they base on DreamCast. Crock and Driver dilogies are in more danger to be screwed since there is no superior versions there been each one have one advancements (even Driver 2 PS1 exclusive are - it has 4 revisions incl regional and modern devs should investigate them all).

As result, as another person. You just said no sense and no truth things. Its like you say Wrace mod is better, which is not truth - they not better of each other, having same functionality. By default remaster better in that - it wont alter original game. Wrace mod better - it alter original game and for free. Very depend on point of view.
Two misjudge here and above.
Post edited 3 hours ago by QWEEDDYZ
Posted 1 hour ago
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Mobeeuz: Common sense alert: GOG can't force publishers to keep games up for sale. If you don't already own a title that's been removed but wanted it, that's on you.
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QWEEDDYZ: No sense at all.
Even GOG can do more tban they do. ZOOM-Platform also as example of better preserving behavior.
Better behavior? They deal with the same issues as GOG, with games being delisted and only having a handful of titles to keep them going. What can GOG or ZP do when developers want their games removed? ZP tried stopping EA from removing all their games from the ZP store, but look what happened.

ZP has hard time even getting games on their store for preservation. It’s a bad statement.
Posted 1 hour ago
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RizzoCuoco: Been playing it, and I'm very underwhelmed. It's not a remaster at all. It's simply a mod of the original game at best. The textures for SR1 are great, but they messed up the day-night cycle making the game too dark at times. It is also now choppy with frametime stutters using original graphics. In other words...i think the work Wrace did is far superior to what is happening here.

SR2 already looked good, but they messed that up too. The reskinning is ok, but lacks facial animations. The textures are also downgraded in many many places.

The main issue here...Aspyr didn't do much at all. The director for this game is Raina Audron (real name I don't know). Raina Audron is not a professional at all, but merely the most obsessive LoK fan the world has ever seen. She also directed TR remasters. The only other real work she has ever done is a fan mod of the Saturn version of Soul Reaver. Hardly enough to get credentials to work professionally. As such, all these wacky decisions were made by her to suit how she wanted the game to be. Now, we have some clout chasing fan thinking they are awesome when they didn't do a damn thing at all, but modified someone else's work...poorly.

Worst of all, these are the folks who shit all over Wrace constantly for actually making the game work for 25 years on PC.

So, while i'm glad to see it back....these wacky fans need to sit down. I've never seen folks revel in work that is not theirs at all. Credit where it isn't due as it were.
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QWEEDDYZ: No one sh!t on Wrace, for any meaning of that. Except for himself. He otherhand do sh!t on community. He prohibited to share even what is not his work, and he make Soul Reaver 1 been rollbacked on GOG and probably why its not restored to store.

Ofc he would said its not his fault. He can do said whatever he wat. Dont you dare to say same sh!t. When it's just him its his issue, when its more - its ours all issue. You do worst han him. Moreover, you do blame here persons who unaware of Wrace and his behavior at all. Did Wrace himself knew someone - someone personally as you said here - sh!t on him?

>I've never seen folks revel in work that is not theirs at all

Erm... Which remade-remake you know is not "folks in work not their"? You know, all original game esigners goes to kickstarter and unable to get enough money. When its coe to officially remaded games - publishers never brought original designer to work on it. Its always some random people working with random original version, not ultimate better not very original one. Just random platform region and revision. There is Crock Remaster where they said PlayStation version was original and base for remaster, while its a sega-sony port and worst of all 3 platforms version. Some cases worst, some easier. Soul Reaver 2 is ps2 game, sr1 at least ps1 are ok as original, better if they base on DreamCast. Crock and Driver dilogies are in more danger to be screwed since there is no superior versions there been each one have one advancements (even Driver 2 PS1 exclusive are - it has 4 revisions incl regional and modern devs should investigate them all).

As result, as another person. You just said no sense and no truth things. Its like you say Wrace mod is better, which is not truth - they not better of each other, having same functionality. By default remaster better in that - it wont alter original game. Wrace mod better - it alter original game and for free. Very depend on point of view.
Two misjudge here and above.
You know this is the English language forum, right? There is no translator on earth that can make this make any sense whatsoever. I cannot comprehend anything you try to say. Sorry...it's true.
Posted 1 hour ago
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QWEEDDYZ: No one sh!t on Wrace, for any meaning of that. Except for himself. He otherhand do sh!t on community. He prohibited to share even what is not his work, and he make Soul Reaver 1 been rollbacked on GOG and probably why its not restored to store.

Ofc he would said its not his fault. He can do said whatever he wat. Dont you dare to say same sh!t. When it's just him its his issue, when its more - its ours all issue. You do worst han him. Moreover, you do blame here persons who unaware of Wrace and his behavior at all. Did Wrace himself knew someone - someone personally as you said here - sh!t on him?

>I've never seen folks revel in work that is not theirs at all

Erm... Which remade-remake you know is not "folks in work not their"? You know, all original game esigners goes to kickstarter and unable to get enough money. When its coe to officially remaded games - publishers never brought original designer to work on it. Its always some random people working with random original version, not ultimate better not very original one. Just random platform region and revision. There is Crock Remaster where they said PlayStation version was original and base for remaster, while its a sega-sony port and worst of all 3 platforms version. Some cases worst, some easier. Soul Reaver 2 is ps2 game, sr1 at least ps1 are ok as original, better if they base on DreamCast. Crock and Driver dilogies are in more danger to be screwed since there is no superior versions there been each one have one advancements (even Driver 2 PS1 exclusive are - it has 4 revisions incl regional and modern devs should investigate them all).

As result, as another person. You just said no sense and no truth things. Its like you say Wrace mod is better, which is not truth - they not better of each other, having same functionality. By default remaster better in that - it wont alter original game. Wrace mod better - it alter original game and for free. Very depend on point of view.
Two misjudge here and above.
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RizzoCuoco: You know this is the English language forum, right? There is no translator on earth that can make this make any sense whatsoever. I cannot comprehend anything you try to say. Sorry...it's true.
Guess I'm not alone.
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