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General discussionRelease: <b>HITMAN - Game of The Year Edition</b>(2414 posts) (2414 posts) 
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Posted September 22, 2021
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Posted October 08, 2021
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Dear Community,

Thank you for your patience and for giving us the time to investigate the release of HITMAN GOTY on GOG. As promised, we’re getting back to you with updates.

We're still in dialogue with IO Interactive about this release. Today we have removed HITMAN GOTY from GOG’s catalog – we shouldn’t have released it in its current form, as you’ve pointed out.

We’d like to apologise for the confusion and anger generated by this situation. We’ve let you down and we’d like to thank you for bringing this topic to us – while it was honest to the bone, it shows how passionate you are towards GOG.

We appreciate your feedback and will continue our efforts to improve our communication with you.
Post edited October 08, 2021 by chandra
Posted September 30, 2021
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chandra: Nothing has changed, we continue to look into it and will update you on this subject.
That is simply not good enough. If GOG intends to have any credibility whatsoever as a 'DRM-free' store, this game and the others that include DRM need to be removed from your store immediately and should not be allowed to return until the developers have removed the DRM.

I will not give you another cent of my money until DRM has been purged from GOG and you start showing some respect for your customers.
Posted September 30, 2021
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MegisED: Now on YongYea:
CD Projekt Anger GOG Users, Release Hitman With DRM &amp; Threaten To Remove Negative User Reviews
i bet he just read it out from a news source like he always does.

i mean, on one hand: good. more exposure.
on the other: oh dear. yongyea.

edited in later:

we-ll. that's 13 minutes of my life i'm never getting back.

it was a pretty typical yongyea video.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by lostwolfe
Posted September 30, 2021
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MegisED: Now on YongYea:
CD Projekt Anger GOG Users, Release Hitman With DRM &amp; Threaten To Remove Negative User Reviews
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lostwolfe: i bet he just read it out from a news source like he always does.

i mean, on one hand: good. more exposure.
on the other: oh dear. yongyea.
I watched the video, he did read the actual posts. The title is clickbait 100%, he even admits the the milk toast post from GoG only gives the impression of reviewing reviews on this subject. But given how broad and useless a statement that was, if we even call it a statement....it's not exactly clear what's going on in GoGs head right now.

so yeah no harm no foul, the title is clickbait but otherwise he was fine. I'm not sure I want to -really- want to dig into it further to get a more accurate assessment.
Posted September 30, 2021
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lostwolfe: i bet he just read it out from a news source like he always does.

i mean, on one hand: good. more exposure.
on the other: oh dear. yongyea.
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mastyer-kenobi: I watched the video, he did read the actual posts. The title is clickbait 100%, he even admits the the milk toast post from GoG only gives the impression of reviewing reviews on this subject. But given how broad and useless a statement that was, if we even call it a statement....it's not exactly clear what's going on in GoGs head right now.

so yeah no harm no foul, the title is clickbait but otherwise he was fine. I'm not sure I want to -really- want to dig into it further to get a more accurate assessment.
i /generally/ appreciate that he doesn't descend into screaming stupidity - which is a thing at least /some/ channels like that do.

but he's just a conduit for gaming "news" - he finds things that he thinks will get views, then reads whatever he finds out.

it's a) just not that interesting [because he rarely ever gets in the way of any of that - there's very little of HIM in his videos with his own opinions and the like] and b) if i wanted that, i would just...read the news myself instead of having it read to me.

i think i'd be a little more interested in his videos if there was more of HIM - THE ACTUAL PERSON injected into them.

[but - as i say - i'm very grateful he doesn't descend into screaming stupidity. that counts for a lot on youtube.]
Posted September 30, 2021
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chandra: Nothing has changed, we continue to look into it and will update you on this subject.
Given the difficulty of this I'm willing to give time to consider giving time. I've seen the kind of mob mentality people can get into to. I'm 100% sure half the people reading even my post will see even this statement as apologetics, and anything but instant alliance to promises whose details the mob doesn't even know itself, as a formal support for this...we'll call it incident to show good faith. I will withhold further questions for the time being though, so long as you keep updates.

BUT, there is a limit. It -is- a loophole to your rules, and I'd say an RPG missing large sections of it's equipment, skills, or maps/strategic formation is effectively non-functional. Let's be clear, the line need be drawn here, and it nee be drawn hard. Giving out what amounts to a demo which requires online access tot he full game is DRM, or false advertising. Likely both on the part of IO but that's not on GoG. I do hope this doesn't get passed over.

Edit: I wanted to bring up an example for case study. I just thought of. Long ago in the land of Flash Games a game called Sonny came up. Good RPG nice story(for a flash game). It's sequel was also good.....but it has an entire class structure(the hydromancer) guttered behind playing it on an exclusive site, Armorgames I believe. I don't remember if the class was purposely overpowered. I don't -think- so, but I'm not 100% sure. either way it be another case of ripe for abuse by an unscrupulous developer, to balance the game around that exclusive class, which does effect gameplay.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by mastyer-kenobi
Posted September 30, 2021
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I haven't been on these forums in a long time but it's sad to see a vocal minority kicking up a fuss over 1 game "hitman" that requires accessing a server for some gun dlc and USER created missions which OF COURSE require internet to obtain them. The main game and extra story missions are still able to be played fine OFFLINE without that server. You can play the full game OFFLINE. What you want GOG to do disable the ability to download USER created missions from the hitman community? lol

GOG has offered a refund while they look into this which is the best they can do. Pulling it from the store would just have people jumping on here to complain about that. A lose / lose situation lol

Some people Instantly boycotting GOG over something that GOG hasn't had any real time to investigate yet? and isn't a big deal as its gun dlc. Of course them same people boycotting GOG I'm sure don't buy games on Steam or post on here recommending steam instead of GOG ;) A quick google wouldn't bring up their steam profiles with complaints about GOG in their comments section ;) You know who you are lol

Steam has literally hundreds of games on there with extremely intrusive DRM such as Denuvo and the same boycotters will happily spend money there while kicking off here. Steam that platform where unless you made sure your in offline mode before disconnecting from the internet none of your games will work. Let's not be hypocrites over something gog has had no chance to look into yet over some gundlc or other rubbish. You forfeit your right to complain /boycott about GoG if you buy games from Steam, Origin, Uplay, Microsoft or any of the other platforms with intrusive DRM.

GOG has worked hard to update and re-released games that would have NEVER seen a re-release without their dedication. We have had people saying that some games would NEVER EVER get updated for re-released even on GOG due to all the legal complications yet GOG has done countless times. BLOOD OMEN was one of them games people had written off as ever getting re-released. GOG has brought back from the dead so many games that never would often at prices which are dirt cheap (when they could charge more given work involved) yet people are so quick to grab their pitchforks looking for a vampire/witch hunt.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by wolfmanrip
Posted September 30, 2021
This is just sad
Posted September 30, 2021
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chandra: Nothing has changed, we continue to look into it and will update you on this subject.
And that's why we still have a problem. Same talk, no moves. Why the game still isn't delisted from the store? Just by having normal communication with the community all this could go so much smoother for both sides.
Releasing Blood Omen to bury this situation was another low move on your part distancing you further from being a pro-consumer/customer game store.
Post edited October 01, 2021 by dragonslayerxxx
Posted September 30, 2021
A reporter, Yong Yea, made a video about this issue.

Yong Yea on GOG &amp; Hitman
Posted September 30, 2021
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wolfmanrip: I haven't been on these forums in a long time but it's sad to see a vocal minority kicking up a fuss over 1 game "hitman" that requires accessing a server for some gun dlc and USER created missions which OF COURSE require internet to obtain them. The main game and extra story missions are still able to be played fine OFFLINE without that server. You can play the full game OFFLINE. What you want GOG to do disable the ability to download USER created missions from the hitman community? lol

GOG has offered a refund while they look into this which is the best they can do. Pulling it from the store would just have people jumping on here to complain about that. A lose / lose situation lol

Some people Instantly boycotting GOG over something that GOG hasn't had any real time to investigate yet? and isn't a big deal as its gun dlc. Of course them same people boycotting GOG I'm sure don't buy games on Steam or post on here recommending steam instead of GOG ;) A quick google wouldn't bring up their steam profiles with complaints about GOG in their comments section ;) You know who you are lol

Steam has literally hundreds of games on there with extremely intrusive DRM such as Denuvo and the same boycotters will happily spend money there while kicking off here. Steam that platform where unless you made sure your in offline mode before disconnecting from the internet none of your games will work. Let's not be hypocrites over something gog has had no chance to look into yet over some gundlc or other rubbish. You forfeit your right to complain /boycott about GoG if you buy games from Steam, Origin, Uplay, Microsoft or any of the other platforms with intrusive DRM.

GOG has worked hard to update and re-released games that would have NEVER seen a re-release without their dedication. We have had people saying that some games would NEVER EVER get updated for re-released even on GOG due to all the legal complications yet GOG has done countless times. BLOOD OMEN was one of them games people had written off as ever getting re-released. GOG has brought back from the dead so many games that never would often at prices which are dirt cheap (when they could charge more given work involved) yet people are so quick to grab their pitchforks looking for a vampire/witch hunt.
there are several games that have drm on gog. keep defending them though so more drm games can keep coming.
Posted September 30, 2021

paladin181: That's the whole point of walking it back, so to speak. They never go all the way back, and get a little bit of what they want. 2 steps forward, one step back. But instead of referring to positive advancement with minor setbacks, it's imposing negative policies and then reverting them to slightly less negative policies.
And in order to correct that wrong mindset, we need to enforce the exact opposite as GoG users (or customers/consumers in general). If GoG displays bad behavior like that and they don't correct it *immediately* then that deal goes off the table and is to be looked at retrospectively as a "sweetheart deal". In short, because GoG has doubled down & dragged their feet, you need to *increase* your demands AND increase the consequences for refusal/failure, as well as *setting a firm time frame* before the new deal is *also* off the table.

An example:

Since GoG staff have refused to do the right thing. Add the additional term that ALL buyers of Hitman 2016 prior to them submitting to the demand (which ironically is to obey their own policy, in this case) will have their refund window extended for an additional 2 weeks AFTER GoG complies, no matter what the playtime is. Give them a firm date of Oct. 1st (last day of a standard workweek). This will cost them more money, and hurt their relationship with the publisher. If they refuse THOSE conditions, keep adding more and stick to your guns until they meet all of them.

Make it the case that ONLY swift compliance will be the least costly and painful option for CDPR.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by Heckler
Posted September 30, 2021
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wolfmanrip: -I don't think you understand.-
Okay, as has already been explained several times before by cows that are going blue in the face, I'll spare someone else the duty:

The Hitman game requires online play to unlock new outfits, starting locations, and items; things which have an intrinsic gameplay value and actually change the experience of playing.
Posted September 30, 2021
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chandra: Dear GOG community!

Thank you for bringing this topic to our attention. We’re looking into it and will be updating you in the coming weeks. In case you have purchased HITMAN and are not satisfied with the released version, you can use your right to refund the game. At the same time, while we’re open for meritful discussion and feedback, we will not tolerate review bombing and will be removing posts that do not follow our review guidelines.
I really dont think this qualifies as review bombing when it's a genuine and serious criticism of the game being labeled as DRM free when it is NOT DRM free.
Posted September 30, 2021
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chandra: Dear GOG community!

Thank you for bringing this topic to our attention. We’re looking into it and will be updating you in the coming weeks. In case you have purchased HITMAN and are not satisfied with the released version, you can use your right to refund the game. At the same time, while we’re open for meritful discussion and feedback, we will not tolerate review bombing and will be removing posts that do not follow our review guidelines.
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KesslerCOIL: I really dont think this qualifies as review bombing when it's a genuine and serious criticism of the game being labeled as DRM free when it is NOT DRM free.
Indeed, and they dont claim it is. This is about as hard neutral and meaningless a statement it is. It be mroe accurate to say they aren't saying one way or the other at this moment
Posted September 30, 2021
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So is this the way GOG is going with games now? If so I'll just refund the games I got in the past 30 days and never buy another game if they keep this game and advertise it as DRM free
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General discussionRelease: <b>HITMAN - Game of The Year Edition</b>(2414 posts) (2414 posts) 
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