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Posted September 22, 2021
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Posted October 08, 2021
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Dear Community,

Thank you for your patience and for giving us the time to investigate the release of HITMAN GOTY on GOG. As promised, we’re getting back to you with updates.

We're still in dialogue with IO Interactive about this release. Today we have removed HITMAN GOTY from GOG’s catalog – we shouldn’t have released it in its current form, as you’ve pointed out.

We’d like to apologise for the confusion and anger generated by this situation. We’ve let you down and we’d like to thank you for bringing this topic to us – while it was honest to the bone, it shows how passionate you are towards GOG.

We appreciate your feedback and will continue our efforts to improve our communication with you.
Post edited October 08, 2021 by chandra
Posted September 30, 2021
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ReynardFox: Oh dude, I have more games than I'll ever get to play, I have 780 games on here, but If GOG hadn't pulled Devotion, and now done this, I'd have spent an additional $500 or more on here by now. I regularly bought at day one to both support devs and GOG itself as I once truly believed in the service.
You and me both. I buy a lot of day 1 releases here (or I did). 800+ games and counting, if they ever fix this, that is.
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mastyer-kenobi: What would you have GoG do? I would argue removing this loophole, even if it utterly fucks games like Spore and anything that needs to verify item collection for whatever reason. The chance of situations, like this one, being left in because technical loophole is just too high. Not amount of selling newer games is worth the risk this occurs again. I have no reason to believe this as anything but an outlier for abuse, as would happen in any storefront, and thus blame the publisher -far- more than GoG, but it doesn't change GoG would have to moderate shit like this, which isn't worth the price of admission. But that comes with a cost that games like Hitman may be a no go. Now, a storefront should be willing to outright say "no" to a product on the basis it's low quality or unstable, but there is still a price tag to go hardball with this.

As you said, they want to have their cake and eat it. Which is possible, but I don't think they have the staff to pull it off, nor will they have that staff or training forever. It's better to just close the loophole to never be misused.
Well, you didn't really argue against my point? My point, in its simplest terms, is that publishers will try to push what they can on this store to get more sales they can data scrape and control. GOG wanting to sell those games will allow at least some of it.

Just like with MTX and other egregious practices (lootboxes, etc) the publishers will push what they know will get a back lash only to "walk it back" to what they wanted to begin with. Then they advance the ball a little further to walk it back again, until they've got people thanking the publishers for only including abusive monetization they were screaming and railing against before. What's happening here on GOG is not that different,
Post edited September 30, 2021 by paladin181
Posted September 30, 2021
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ReynardFox: Oh dude, I have more games than I'll ever get to play, I have 780 games on here, but If GOG hadn't pulled Devotion, and now done this, I'd have spent an additional $500 or more on here by now. I regularly bought at day one to both support devs and GOG itself as I once truly believed in the service.
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paladin181: You and me both. I buy a lot of day 1 releases here (or I did). 800+ games and counting, if they ever fix this, that is.
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mastyer-kenobi: What would you have GoG do? I would argue removing this loophole, even if it utterly fucks games like Spore and anything that needs to verify item collection for whatever reason. The chance of situations, like this one, being left in because technical loophole is just too high. Not amount of selling newer games is worth the risk this occurs again. I have no reason to believe this as anything but an outlier for abuse, as would happen in any storefront, and thus blame the publisher -far- more than GoG, but it doesn't change GoG would have to moderate shit like this, which isn't worth the price of admission. But that comes with a cost that games like Hitman may be a no go. Now, a storefront should be willing to outright say "no" to a product on the basis it's low quality or unstable, but there is still a price tag to go hardball with this.

As you said, they want to have their cake and eat it. Which is possible, but I don't think they have the staff to pull it off, nor will they have that staff or training forever. It's better to just close the loophole to never be misused.
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paladin181: Well, you didn't really argue against my point? My point, in its simplest terms, is that publishers will try to push what they can on this store to get more sales they can data scrape and control. GOG wanting to sell those games will allow at least some of it.

Just like with MTX and other egregious practices (lootboxes, etc) the publishers will push what they know will get a back lash only to "walk it back" to what they wanted to begin with. Then they advance the ball a little further to walk it back again, until they've got people thanking the publishers for only including abusive monetization they were screaming and railing against before. What's happening here on GOG is not that different,
No, we do agree. That's why I think the loophole being closed is the right way to go, to make a hard line because this allowance for cosmetic options only is being abused like hell. Greedy assholes will continue to try to push that loophole as far as it can go, and GoG doesn't have the talent or knowledge to hard moderate that. GoG is giving these people an inch, and the outright unscrupulous publishers like activision, Ea, Deep Silver, 2k, etc, will run a marathon on it.
Posted September 30, 2021
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paladin181: Then they advance the ball a little further to walk it back again,
I think what might happen in this situation is that IOI and GOG may negotiate a fudge wherein they only partially walk back this DRM infestation on the GOG release, in hopes it will appease most GOG fans to have some of the DRM removed.

Seems IMO like IOI is reluctant to remove the DRM fully because they don't want the GOG storefront to have the best version of this game, which would probably be because they fear that doing that will tick off their customers on Steam and EGS.

It will be very interesting to see if GOG and IOI attempt to pull a fudge here, and if they do, whether GOG customers will accept it or not.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
Posted September 30, 2021
Fudge; it is unacceptable.
Posted September 30, 2021
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paladin181: Then they advance the ball a little further to walk it back again,
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I think what might happen in this situation is that IOI and GOG may negotiate a fudge wherein they only partially walk back this DRM infestation on the GOG release, in hopes it will appease most GOG fans to have some of the DRM removed.

Seems IMO like IOI is reluctant to remove the DRM fully because they don't want the GOG storefront to have the best version of this game, which would probably be because they fear that doing that will tick off their customers on Steam and EGS.

It will be very interesting to see if GOG and IOI attempt to pull a fudge here, and if they do, whether GOG customers will accept it or not.
That's the whole point of walking it back, so to speak. They never go all the way back, and get a little bit of what they want. 2 steps forward, one step back. But instead of referring to positive advancement with minor setbacks, it's imposing negative policies and then reverting them to slightly less negative policies.
Posted September 30, 2021
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chandra: Nothing has changed, we continue to look into it and will update you on this subject.
Literally HOW?
What is the reason for not delisting the game before the situation is resolved?


Also the game sale is over, its now full price. Are all the people who held off buying it because of the DRM now screwed over if/when it is resolved?
Post edited September 30, 2021 by Starsmine
Posted September 30, 2021
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I think what might happen in this situation is that IOI and GOG may negotiate a fudge wherein they only partially walk back this DRM infestation on the GOG release, in hopes it will appease most GOG fans to have some of the DRM removed.

Seems IMO like IOI is reluctant to remove the DRM fully because they don't want the GOG storefront to have the best version of this game, which would probably be because they fear that doing that will tick off their customers on Steam and EGS.

It will be very interesting to see if GOG and IOI attempt to pull a fudge here, and if they do, whether GOG customers will accept it or not.
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paladin181: That's the whole point of walking it back, so to speak. They never go all the way back, and get a little bit of what they want. 2 steps forward, one step back. But instead of referring to positive advancement with minor setbacks, it's imposing negative policies and then reverting them to slightly less negative policies.
For those who haven't been here in 2014, here is an example:

- On Friday, February 21, 2014, GOG announced that they will introduce regional pricing for THREE (3) new games in their catalogue.

- The forum erupted. Over the next 3 days, more than THREE THOUSAND (3,000) comments were posted to the thread (compare it to the measly 1K over three days in this thread).
==> https://www.gog.com/forum/general/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming

- On Tuesday, February 25, 2014, GOG published a TWO THOUSAND (2,000) word letter, apologising, explaining, promising and most importantly reassuring everyone (compare it to chandra's post-it note above).
https://www.gog.com/forum/general_archive/letter_from_the_md_about_regional_pricing

- The forum calmed down.

- A year or so later, practically every game on GOG, old or new, was regionally priced. Nobody cried out anymore (except Cavalary).

- Epilogue: On March 2019, the last vestige, the so-called "Fair Pricing Package", was also removed.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by mrkgnao
Posted September 30, 2021
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Neurus_Ex: So.. its monday night (At least here in Europe), we are at 82 pages here, 62 pages of negative reviews and a record low score of 1.3 out of 5, even after GoG deleting reviews.

And obviously GoG has said nothing new on this, right? Are they really gonna just sit it up and wait until people gets bored of the controversy? Shame shame, like in that movie whose name I don't remember, shame.
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trusteft: I don't think it's Monday night anywhere in the world. It's Wed night in Europe.
lol, it's been a long week for me xD. I've edited the message, thanks for pointing it out!
Posted September 30, 2021
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chandra: Dear GOG community!

Thank you for bringing this topic to our attention. We’re looking into it and will be updating you in the coming weeks. In case you have purchased HITMAN and are not satisfied with the released version, you can use your right to refund the game. At the same time, while we’re open for meritful discussion and feedback, we will not tolerate review bombing and will be removing posts that do not follow our review guidelines.
You got "review bombed" for a reason. You released a game that is heavily tied to online servers and which will eventually turn into a turnip at some point in the future. Most people here don't like that and I don't either. We didn't come to GOG so we could get that.

Also hilarious how it's now gone back up to $59.99. You guys don't seriously expect anyone to pay that much after this whole debacle, do you?

Even more so is the people who are going around and desperately downvoting every single negative post and or posting 5 star reviews in a vain attempt to silence peoples wrath. Why do you even bother doing that?

The game is good, but is not ready to be on GOG yet. If you fix the DRM problems then I will buy it - maybe even at $60.00.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by SirAdamBeckIIGS
Posted September 30, 2021
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SirAdamBeckIIGS: Even more so is the people who are going around and desperately downvoting every single negative post and or posting 5 star reviews in a vain attempt to silence peoples wrath. Why do you even bother doing that?
I was concerned about this so I looked. There are, in 240 reviews, a total of four 5 star reviews. For anyone worrying, this is hardly a strong counter-current. 2 of them were outright reportable since they were either just an insult to other users, or an outright lie. the other two just claimed the DRM wasn't a bit deal, which is stupid but just an opinion.
Post edited September 30, 2021 by mastyer-kenobi
Posted September 30, 2021
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SirAdamBeckIIGS: Even more so is the people who are going around and desperately downvoting every single negative post and or posting 5 star reviews in a vain attempt to silence peoples wrath. Why do you even bother doing that?
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mastyer-kenobi: I was concerned about this so I looked. There are, in 240 reviews, a total of four 5 star reviews. For anyone worrying, this is hardly a strong counter-current. 2 of them were outright reportable since they were either just an insult to other users, or an outright lie. the other two just claimed the DRM wasn't a bit deal, which is stupid but just an opinion.
I think you may have some filters enabled, as there are more than 300 reviews on the Hitman game page, and 12 of them are 5-star.
Posted September 30, 2021
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mastyer-kenobi: I was concerned about this so I looked. There are, in 240 reviews, a total of four 5 star reviews. For anyone worrying, this is hardly a strong counter-current. 2 of them were outright reportable since they were either just an insult to other users, or an outright lie. the other two just claimed the DRM wasn't a bit deal, which is stupid but just an opinion.
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mrkgnao: I think you may have some filters enabled, as there are more than 300 reviews on the Hitman game page, and 12 of them are 5-star.
No we have the same amount of reviews, I stopped around 240 so I obviously didnt see all of them. It explain a lot is the 5 stars are made before any of this before anyone discovered the DRM, or by the shills so obsessed with Hitman they bought it day 1 on GoG and ignored the DRM. Either way it's a terribly weak counter-current
Post edited September 30, 2021 by mastyer-kenobi
Posted September 30, 2021
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mrkgnao: I think you may have some filters enabled, as there are more than 300 reviews on the Hitman game page, and 12 of them are 5-star.
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mastyer-kenobi: No we have the same amount of reviews, I stopped around 240 so I obviously didnt see all of them. It explain a lot is the 5 stars are made before any of this before anyone discovered the DRM, or by the shills so obsessed with Hitman they bought it day 1 on GoG and ignored the DRM. Either way it's a terribly weak counter-current
You can sort by "most positive" to get the top reviews. No need to go page by page.
Posted September 30, 2021
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mastyer-kenobi: No we have the same amount of reviews, I stopped around 240 so I obviously didnt see all of them. It explain a lot is the 5 stars are made before any of this before anyone discovered the DRM, or by the shills so obsessed with Hitman they bought it day 1 on GoG and ignored the DRM. Either way it's a terribly weak counter-current
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mrkgnao: You can sort by "most positive" to get the top reviews. No need to go page by page.
Fair, I was more looking for how common they were and potential ongoing spam. The existence of 5 stars means nothing to me.
Posted September 30, 2021
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General discussionRelease: <b>HITMAN - Game of The Year Edition</b>(2414 posts) (2414 posts) 
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