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Posted August 03, 2018
Tiny Bang Story, Morphopolis, plus the Enigmatis and Nightmares from the Deep trilogies.

Who doesn't love the look of a messy room, devilishly concealing all the important items when you need them the most? That guilty pleasure of rummaging around for your car keys, wallet, or that grotesque ivory ornament which unlocks the secrets to the family curse, is what Hidden Object Games are all about!
We kick off their arrival on GOG.COM with a fine selection that was hiding in plain sight and some purty 70% discounts until August 10th, 1pm UTC.

Tiny Bang Story takes place on a lovely planet thrown into disarray after an unfortunate clash with a total jerk of a meteor. Help fix it by solving quirky puzzles and scouring hand-drawn screens for objects of interest.

The Enigmatis trilogy begins on the spooky streets of Maple Creek, a place overflowing with secrets, tragedy, and hidden knickknacks! Disoriented and confused after being hit by a furious storm, you must steel your nerves and stay focused on finding that missing girl.

Morphopolis is an evocative puzzle adventure set in an almost-psychedelic forest undergrowth full of curious insects. Gorgeous exploration and fascinating discoveries await.

Ghost ships, doomed romance, pirate treasure, and items in need of finding make up the Nightmares from the Deep trilogy, a chilling tale straight from Davy Jones' locker.
Posted August 06, 2018
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Telika: Do you know many videogames for grown-ups ? :-/
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RPGDEX: In fact unless you are playing Nintendo Consoles, nowadays almost every game is only suitable for adults. Just take a peek at Playstation catalogue (almost everything 18 in red). I remember when I was playing Diablo II that the expansion Lord of Destuction was already +17 (and that was the year 2001!). Nice games Heavenly Sword (16+), Assasins Creed (16+) or Arkham Asylum (18+). I was playing them on my Playstation 3 years ago.
Yet, I cannot name many games that aren't completely childish or juvenile. Videogames "for grown-ups" sound uselessly pretentious. It reminds me of all the Aliens and Predators fanboys who felt betrayed because the incoming "AvP" movie would not be rated R - and so would not be "mature" enough.

So, yeah, let's keep our batman toys in perspective.
Posted August 06, 2018
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RPGDEX: In fact unless you are playing Nintendo Consoles, nowadays almost every game is only suitable for adults. Just take a peek at Playstation catalogue (almost everything 18 in red). I remember when I was playing Diablo II that the expansion Lord of Destuction was already +17 (and that was the year 2001!). Nice games Heavenly Sword (16+), Assasins Creed (16+) or Arkham Asylum (18+). I was playing them on my Playstation 3 years ago.
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Telika: Yet, I cannot name many games that aren't completely childish or juvenile. Videogames "for grown-ups" sound uselessly pretentious. It reminds me of all the Aliens and Predators fanboys who felt betrayed because the incoming "AvP" movie would not be rated R - and so would not be "mature" enough.

So, yeah, let's keep our batman toys in perspective.
Just compare "Knight Lore" from ZX Spectrum to "Call of Duty" or "GTA". THAT was a game suitable for children. Anyway ok.
Post edited August 06, 2018 by RPGDEX
Posted August 06, 2018
Good adults-only (21+) games on GOG:

Blackwell 2 and 4 (don't remember 3 much)
What Remains of Edith Finch
Jalopy
Virginia (maybe, I couldn't play it)
Stasis (maybe, this is more of an age rating, I'm old and it fucked me up anyway)

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What I didn't include:
- games rated 18+ for sax, violins and such
- short games geared toward busy people
- all-ages games that respect your intelligence
- games with an educational aspect
- games with a "parental bonus"
Posted August 06, 2018
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Starmaker: Good adults-only (21+) games on GOG:

Blackwell 2 and 4 (don't remember 3 much)
What Remains of Edith Finch
Jalopy
Virginia (maybe, I couldn't play it)
Stasis (maybe, this is more of an age rating, I'm old and it fucked me up anyway)

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What I didn't include:
- games rated 18+ for sax, violins and such
- short games geared toward busy people
- all-ages games that respect your intelligence
- games with an educational aspect
- games with a "parental bonus"
The Blackwell games made with Adventure Game Studio? I was playing graphic adventures with that engine years ago,
Post edited August 06, 2018 by RPGDEX
Posted August 06, 2018
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Starmaker: Good adults-only (21+) games on GOG:

Blackwell 2 and 4 (don't remember 3 much)
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RPGDEX: The Blackwell games made with Adventure Game Studio?
Yup. They're about adult hopelessness, regret and futility. 2 is episode-length, 4 is a full-sized game. (I recommend playing 1-2-3-4 in order -- 1 serves as the intro and 3 is good, too, I just don't remember much about it.)
Posted August 06, 2018
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RPGDEX: The Blackwell games made with Adventure Game Studio?
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Starmaker: Yup. They're about adult hopelessness, regret and futility. 2 is episode-length, 4 is a full-sized game. (I recommend playing 1-2-3-4 in order -- 1 serves as the intro and 3 is good, too, I just don't remember much about it.)
Ok thanks. I remember playing 14 days stranger (or a name like that) and skeptical (or something like that). There was a funny adventure about a dissapeared hamster, or something like that ,with good graphics. Among others. That was years ago.

I don't know. When is something deep I prefer just to read a novel, to say the truth.

It sounds like those interactive fiction games made with Inform.

Maybe that's the reason that there's no a lot of "mature" games that Telika was referring. Just read a novel and that's all.
Post edited August 07, 2018 by RPGDEX
Posted August 07, 2018
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MarkoH01: Yes, that's their German name.

Edit: but you already knew that because I was late (note to myself: first read thread till the end then post).
No problem, I also haven't had the time to read the thread completely. And thanks for the definitive confirmation as Leroux's confirmation sounded a little bit more vague. :)
Posted August 07, 2018
Not a fan of that. I hoped GoG would distinguish itself from Steam, by having a strict "what is allowed here" policy in comparison to Steam's liberal sell policy.

I am not arguing, that one cannot enjoy those games, but they are objectively bad and have no place here. The same goes for visual novels, which I personally like to consume, but don't want to see here as well.

I am just asking for a digital game retailer, that is less like a discounter and more a shop with selected products.
One doesn't succeed by copying his competitors, but by doing it differently. This decision here and selling censored games are just further steps of becoming like other retailers.

Edit: I read roughly the whole 12 pages and it looks like the majority like or accept this step. I also saw, that people expressing their different opinion regarding that matter, got down voted.
Demanding that people should accept, that those games are liked, but not being accepting themselves. Surely not the greatest hour of the GoG community.
Post edited August 07, 2018 by ChicknDuck
Posted August 07, 2018
I think this post needs to bee sticked on top for everyone to read. My first reaction was "Why are you doing this?".

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Linko90: Hey guys. Please understand that we're a storefront that sells many games from many genres.
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PixelBoy: Yes. I think what many find confusing though is that it took 10 years before you added VNs and HOGs into the catalog. There has apparently been some very significant change in your store policy recently, but that has not been communicated to your customers - except for an unexpected "now we sell this" kind of message.

I'm not complaining though. I like occasional VN and HOG every now and then.

What is very strange here, is that you now seem to accept genres that many hardcore gamers don't even consider computer games, but at the same time, keep turning down games with some notable quality. Quite a few Kickstarter funded games come to mind to begin with.

So in order to avoid unnecessary user rant, perhaps you could communicate which exactly are the standards for GOG games these days?

Apparently casual genres are OK now? As you are selling "in development" titles, fully patched etc. from the early days of GOG is no longer the standard? Many indie games that both developers and players would like to see here are apparently not accepted, so there are some other criteria than people wanting to see those titles here?

So what exactly is the official store policy these days?
Posted August 07, 2018
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MarkoH01: people should stop considering certain games or genres as bad and unwanted for everybody just because they don't like them.
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Pond86: I agree. Thats where Steam is just bad. They block the anime games from appearing on the store front just to not annoy a group. Everyone likes something different, companies just need to grow a pair.....(Refrains from entering anymore.)
Steam has a personalised store front for each user. Obviously someone who isn't into anime games, won't get them recommended. I saw them quite often, when I used to check the Steam store.
Post edited August 07, 2018 by ChicknDuck
Posted August 07, 2018
If people look around they will see that the "Good Old Games" that some people are claiming at "Scooby-Doo Where are you?" style are everywhere nowadays (Origin, Steam or whatever). IMHO GOG is just doing his best to keep kicking.

If these games sell they will sell them. And I would do the same. As far as I know this is a business, not a "sacred gaming sanctuary" or something like that.
Post edited August 07, 2018 by RPGDEX
Posted August 07, 2018
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ChicknDuck: I am not arguing, that one cannot enjoy those games, but they are objectively bad and have no place here. The same goes for visual novels, which I personally like to consume, but don't want to see here as well.
No, they are not. See? I sometimes like them and there are others that do like them. There is no thing as "objectively bad" when it comes to such things. That's just your opinion (subjective) that tries to speak for everybody (objective). I also doubt that you have played every HOG available so that you would even able to judge "those games" instead of just the ones you experienced.
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ChicknDuck: Edit: I read roughly the whole 12 pages and it looks like the majority like or accept this step. I also saw, that people expressing their different opinion regarding that matter, got down voted.
Demanding that people should accept, that those games are liked, but not being accepting themselves. Surely not the greatest hour of the GoG community.
I more than once pointed out that I don't like it if people were downvoted just because their opinion is differing from the ones that downvoted. I still think we should discuss such things since this is the whole point of a forum. Unfortunately it seems to be faster and easier to just click on the downvote button. As I said, I don't agree with your opinion that HOGs are "objectively bad" I even disagree that such thing is existing. Still I did not downvote you for it, I tried to explain to you why I disagree.

If these games were bad GOG would not sell them. They did not give up on curation they simply broadened their offer which is what a store should do to survive. To survive as a business in digital retailing you'd need as many customers as possible. Why do you think they invented GOG Galaxy? Luckily they still have not abandoned those who don't want a client but in the end the goal has been to attract new customers with this as well. I know some people don't like to hear this, but GOG is not "our" store. It's a store in which we have the pleasure to be treated as human beings and gamers but it's still first and foremost a store.
Post edited August 07, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted August 07, 2018
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muntdefems: Well, to be fair Hidden Folks is actually one of a kind, and has nothing to do with the rest of the "hidden object" genre. I also wish it'd come to GOG someday.
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CruseNg: I will like to see Hidden Folks here too. :D
https://twitter.com/kqwru/status/1026803975641866240

Question:
Dear @AdriaandeJongh, now that @GOGcom has started selling hidden object games, is there any chance you'd release #HiddenFolks #DRMfree on their service?

Adriaan de Jongh, creator of Hidden Folks:
nope!

Well, so much for that...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/435400/Hidden_Folks/
Post edited August 07, 2018 by Downtown_Special
Posted August 07, 2018
Hmm, I'm not a fan of HOG's. Please don't tag these games as adventures (as Steam does) but reserve a separate tag for them.
That way I can ignore them, while giving those who do enjoy them, the chance to get them DRM-free here at GOG.
Post edited August 07, 2018 by jorlin
Posted August 08, 2018
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CruseNg: I will like to see Hidden Folks here too. :D
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Downtown_Special: https://twitter.com/kqwru/status/1026803975641866240

Question:
Dear @AdriaandeJongh, now that @GOGcom has started selling hidden object games, is there any chance you'd release #HiddenFolks #DRMfree on their service?

Adriaan de Jongh, creator of Hidden Folks:
nope!

Well, so much for that...

https://store.steampowered.com/app/435400/Hidden_Folks/
Then screw you, dear dev. If you don't want my money I don't need to give it to you. Seriously I hate those "one word" replys whenever a customer is taking the effort to contact devs writing as friendly as possible. With such a "reply" (though I should maybe be glad that he responded at all) this dev has disqualified himself for now and eternity and I will never buy anything he made. That's the way I try to support devs that are worth supporting and I try not to waste any money on devs that treat customers as if they aren't important.
Post edited August 08, 2018 by MarkoH01
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