foad01: You might think that people are happy that God of War has finally arrived, but then you see this thread.
The more you read the posts in this thread the more it is getting inane and insane. What was the thread about? Was there a game release?
How about: seeing BOTH positive AND negative sides? Hmm?
Is it that in YOUR view people can either be OVEJOYED and have ZERO complaints, or be outright HATERS?
Is THAT how you think?
People CANNOT be HAPPY about the release, but CAUTIOUS and give legitimate criticism?
Atreyu666: Typical GoG forum behaviour. What did you expect? :D
foad01: I don't know. I've just read that the Epic Game Store is a monopoly and can't stop laughing anymore.
Oh, nono, BY ALL MEANS - ENLIGHTEN us - WHAT IS it when some insert-name company has EXCLUSIVE selling RIGHTS to a product A, for a duration of time, on a given platform ( in this case, PC market ) ?
Is it NOT monopoly ( for the duration of the TIMED EXCLUSIVITY contract AT LEAST ) ? Are all worldwide dictionaries WRONG ?
You claim EGS, signing TIMED-EXCLUSIVITY contracts with publishers - where a game A CANNOT be sold on ANY other PC platform for said duration of time - is "NOT MONOPOLY", and you find this "laughable".
So by all means, I am patiently awaiting your argumentation.
I'm all ears.
WinterSnowfall: None taken.
;)
WinterSnowfall: I'm here for the DRM-free offline installers. I'm well aware GOG isn't perfect, but then again no store truly is. One must pick the lesser of evils, or perhaps a bunch of lesser evils if one can tolerate it.
Well GOG isn't perfect, Steam is neither. But GOG is extraordinarily good at 'shadow hypocrisy', and bait and switching.
Steam NEVER promised people "ALL of our games will be 100% DRM-free", GOG DID, then they backed away, WITHOUT plastering this info all over the place, and most people seem to STILL believe that GOG is 100% DRM-free, which it sure isn't.
It's also possible to try to make best use of the situation, and eg buy what's possible on GOG, but STILL buy "DRM free after INSTALLING" games on Steam anyway. So basically doing exact opposite of some eliticist grand-standing hypocritical people here on GOG forums ;)
( I'm not pointing any fingers anywhere, Im sure you have met such individuals on these forums )
B1tF1ghter: Cyberpunk dystopias have futuristic tech and various other things this worldline so far doesn't possess.
WinterSnowfall: I am the ignorant one, allegedly, but not the one who thinks holding a computing device in your hand capable of capturing and reproducing video, picture and sound, and as of late also generating it based on text prompts isn't "futuristic". What did you expect, flying cars?
Well you certainly ARE the one to make a pseudo-quote out of thin air. I never said anything about smartphones. Also I am not aware of any smartphone capable of neural networks computations without heating itself to the point of contending to be the next Galaxy Note 7.
Tho I am also not holding my breath for next smartphone releases so I might have overlooked something...
And I disagree that smartphones are futuristic for US, or even for us from 10 years ago.
It would be futuristic in pre-PDA days when the original non-reTOUCHED Star Wars 'a new hope' released.
It certainly isn't a futuristic piece of tech nowadays.
It's all about RELATIVITY my friend.
Relative to NOW, or 10 years ago, smartphones are nothing particularly impressive.
In fact, this technology is downright STAGNANT, and humanity has brazenly slowed down it's technological race in exchange for greedy profits race to corpo dystopian hellscape ( with SOME countries beeing way ahead in said race ). It seems like it's no longer about ingenuity and progress, just about MONEY and nothing else.
We are PERHAPS living in a dystopia, but I PERSONALLY disagree it's a cyberpunk.
Sorry, but, FOR ME at least, the tech we have is just too lame :P :D
WinterSnowfall: In the middle ages you'd be quickly classified as a sorcerer and burned at the stake when trying to communicate with the locals in Latin by using Google Translate's instant voice translation.
This argument falls immediatelly apart because the voice translation is not done locally offline on the device.
Unless you would pack entire small Google datacenter branch, along with a generous TERABYTES ( at the minimum! ) of training data, onto your Borealis time-machine name-subject-to-change, then would ethernet your way through landscape far enough for the ship to not be immediatelly seen, you simply would get a 'connection error' :D
WinterSnowfall: And rightly so
I feel like G T would slip the f up and mistranslate my words into something ENTIRELY else, possibly heavily insultive.
I don't know about you, but over the course of last 10 years I have seen it's English-related translations quality get actually noticably WORSE somehow :P
WinterSnowfall: someone in the 80s would call you at best a dreamer if you explained the concept of an internet-connected smartphone
Who exactly? "Average joe" ? SURE. Scientist? Not really. For them the only imagination flex required would be to imagine a computer in your pocket.
In the 80s they already had precursor to the current global network - university specific IT networks, and ARPANET.
WinterSnowfall: Have you even seen the original Star Trek series?
Sadly, no :/ Not so far anyway...
WinterSnowfall: This is today. You are welcome.
Ah yes. The dystopia of RL with all the BAD, with none of the GOOD and COOL. But of course!
I mean... dude... 90s part-satire part-serious 007 scenes had more technological ingenuity and 'fun aspect' to it that today...
Today is just borring and depressingly stale :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15RZEbeGxTY foad01: You might think that people are happy that God of War has finally arrived, but then you see this thread.
WinterSnowfall: War. War never changes. :P
Well I for certain am not the type to easily give out my privacy and security for some cheap convenience...
So yeah, for ME this war will never change ;)
Mafwek: ( Bloodborne for PC! )
Imagine playing Souls game without all gankers, hackers and exploiters, it's just not the same experience.
You must be really know nothing about MP cheaters to think ANY PC PLATFORM would be cheater free.
In fact it's PRECISELY the PS4 exclusivity that made Bloodborne MOSTLY devoid of cheaters.
The moment it comes onto PC, REGARDLESS if it's going to be on GOG, it is absolutely going to be a dam breach proportions of flood of those "people", and another Blue Sentinel-like tool will be needed very quickly...
Bloodborne also doesn't have TRADITIONAL multiplayer per se... so...
B1tF1ghter: On Linux there's innoextract ( for Innosetup based stuff ), there MIGHT be something similar for Windows which would allow you to unpack the installers directly perhaps...
Mori_Yuki: Thanks! I hadn't thought about that. The installers can also be extracted under Windows
I gotta warn you tho, you'd have to create some Registry entries by hand probably - I say probably because "better designed" games ENSURE those entries exist and they MAKE them if not - POORLY coded games however will commit harakiri if they don't find those in the Registry.
Normally the installer is supposed to make them... depending on how you extract it... well... you get the idea...
Ancient-Red-Dragon: but yet most GOG customers give these Sony games a "free pass" for being spyware-filled? This makes no sense to me.
Oh you know, it's the usual hypocrisy of "it's the game I love released DRM-free, I don't read EULA nor do I care about telemetry because Windows already does that on me, so since I don't see a problem, it must not be a problem" ;)
foad01: Yes, GOG should delist all games with achievements because these games collect user data.
Achievements are disclosed on product card. Telemetry isn't ( clearly ENOUGH ). Also for achievements data to be uploaded into cloud, you need to use Galaxy, which is optional. This isn't a comparable example. Try harder mister rage baiter ;)
( this post will be once more in 2 parts, 2nd part incoming in some 10+ minutes unless someone posts anything before that, cue "GOG ancient forum CMS" )
edit:
Im sleep deprived, I confused 'new hope' with 'empire strikes back'. FIXED NOW.