hehe, got to love your one track mind. no, poor soul, this was not a comment on either Hatred nor on Agony, in fact not on any game at all. but I should have known it would have gone straight over your head... so, I guess I will leave it there.

I'm more amused by the fact that the people who defend controversial curation so zealously are only downvote posts in this topic, instead of showing some real support for the game that they "really" enjoy.

If you really think that this game is so awesome, then prove it with your wallet, what's the problem? Buy it on GOG, write a review, discuss it on the subforum - do something that shows that you are really interested in this game.

Prove to all these "whiners" that they are wrong with their complaints about a non-obvious selection of games from the community wishlist.

It's not really a one-track mind since I'm not advocating for the suppression of this release even when it comes to this garbage game, but that'll offend most people here that deem themselves progressive for supporting a game that isn't much of a game, to begin with.

I know what you meant but then again I first need to figure out in what generalized form you were offended by? Must be the SJW part considering that is being most critical of them not being actual gamers while the gaming media has shown that progressives barely play games and seeing as being a gamer is now defined by playing on your mobile phone I'll say I'm most likely correct but you just don't like being told that let alone the other perpetually offended people.

You'll most likely spin this into something stupid like you did with Wizardry thread that kept going on simply cause you were offended like a 4yo. have fun with you progressive indie games that are mostly just copy-pasted games.

Curation staff on GOG are a bunch of ''Woke'' people that just bring this game here because they think it's nice they could care less about the Community wishlist which was already shown with the pile of rejected games which had higher votes than this game and had more gameplay in them.

Maybe 30 minutes had elapsed so they finished the game and then came here to downvote, smh (okay, I probably earned a bushel of downvotes with this goodnatured jab).

Great suggestion that I doubt will come to pass. I'm sure you've also heard the common refrains in topics regarding said high-wishlisted games, "there's no guarantee they'll sell here, GOG is a business not a charity" etc. For some reason those attitudes are wholly absent now.

While in the past I have commented about titles I would personally "curate" out (not limited to many indies, also including games that I view as having DRM or DRM-like features), I am not doing that here either. My earlier posts in this topic were saying, bring in the new indie game, cool, but let's also not reject highly desired other games.

For some reason, just that notion to reconsider other highly-desired games seems to be infuriating to people, and I can't figure out why. They had NO problem when it came to reconsidering a unique indie game like Opus Magnum.

Why don't we have a look on where it's positioned in the "bestselling" category?
(I de-selected DLCs, and had a look at "bestselling" among "new releases", respectively "bestselling" among "everything")

Turned out, among the new releases, Florence takes 6th place: attachment 1

And among everything released, Florence takes 65th place: attachment 2

That's not too shabby, if you ask me.

Now, what were your examples, again? Ah, Biing! and Grimoire.
Well, among new releases, Biing! takes 2nd place - and among everything released it takes 7th place - those pixel boobies really sell, hm?

And Grimoire?
Well, let me tell you...that one took me quite some time to find it in the bestselling list...it's on 771st place.
On page 17 of the "bestselling among everything released" list. (Attachment 3)

Sorry, but I don't get what the number of reviews (either in comparison to Steam or at all) has to do with anything.
Not everybody who buys a game, writes a review.
I also don't get what the number of owners (who are present in this thread) has to do with it.
Not everyone that buys games on GOG is participating in the forum discussions.
I even dare to claim, that the numbers of GOG users which never participate in the forum discussions, are in the vast majority.
The bestselling lists that I attached are deciding - they show where the sales of a game sit, in comparison to others.

Edit: some hickup...

Well, those are the best threads. Worth making some popcorn for. ^^

edz: bad ffx

Overall/over the years, I think GOG's been doing pretty well bringing games here many people want, as best they can.

Obviously they don't have Spy Fox that I want, and have rejected titles like the schmups and various other games that others want. (and we can still criticize them for rejections and encourage those releases),

but in the grand scheme of things we've gotten Diablo, Grim Fandango HD, SS2 and 1 (mostly thanks to Nightdive, granted, but iirc Stephen Kick saw the wishlist and that helped inspire him to go after it), Warcraft1-2, Curse Monkey Island, Morrowind, Full Throttle, Homeworld, Daggerfall as a freebie, Doom 1, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, X-COM: UFO Defense (UFO Enemy Unknown), Fallout 3 GOTY, Oblivion, Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition, Mafia, Wasteland, Torchlight II, Jazz Jackrabbit, Bioshock, Quake, Torment: Tides of Numenera, Call Of Cthulhu: Dark Corners Of The Earth, XIII (Re-release), Metal Fatigue, Jedi Academy, Emperor: Rise Of The Middle Kingdom, Omikron: The Nomad Soul, Project Eternity, I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, Pool of Radiance, Thief II: The Metal Age, Theme Park, Carmageddon, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow Of Chernobyl, Flashback, Soldier Of Fortune 1-2, Titan Quest, Syndicate Wars, Wing Commander V: Prophecy, Civilization III, Empires: Dawn of the Modern World, Hitman: Blood Money, Albion, Z (well, sort of), Stellaris, Tron 2.0, Clive Barker's Undying, etc. and that's pretty cool.

All of these excuses are pretty interesting, but have you BOUGHT the game?

Talk is cheap. Let your wallet speak for you.

Otherwise, all your huge manuscripts that you wrote here are meaningless.

You went on to list a very impressive collection of releases that I too am happy are here on this store. But I have to disagree they've been doing the best they can. Maybe more accurate to say they've been doing the best they can EXCEPT with regard to controversial games and dungeon crawlers. That is a noticeable blindspot. We don't know of all the games submitted to GOG or that get rejected, but we have clear examples of these which simply don't make sense. And didn't GOG admit in a post around the new year that they were going to try to do better in reconsidering previously rejected games? I hope that is true so both the indie fans AND fans like me can be happy.
Thank you. How that was not considered relevant information is baffling. Especially when the reverse has been CONSTANTLY thrown at consumers who want it..."that game is old, it sold all it's going to sell, they can't bring it here because everyone that wanted to buy it already did".

If you'd bothered to actually read my "huge manuscripts", you would know what I've written in post 62:
and
So - no, I haven't bought Florence. I also haven't bought Grimoire (which - of the three you mentioned - is the only one available here).
Mind to tell me what exactly the point was, that you were trying to make?

Btw: since - for you - the number of available reviews seems to be one of the (if not even THE) indicators, whether a game is successful, and you are also further insisting, that the two factors of
(a) owning games and
(b) writing reviews to games you own,
are the sole reasons that grant anyone the permission to discuss about games, at all......I went, and sieved through the reviews of Grimoire.

I found out some interesting facts:

- there are only 40 reviews in total (so, going by your own standards, can hardly be called a huge success)
- of which only 16 are by verified owners (again - going by your own standards - that's nothing)
- YOU are none of them (that's the most hilarious!)

(attachment 1)

Edit: cut out a sentence and a quote, where I got carried away and had pulled in rjbuffchix, in a way that wasn't really fair to him.

I haven't reviewed any games. Iirc, I haven't even rated any using the star thing. Not sure why I'm being lumped in with the "number of reviews and people doing the reviews" argument which has never been my main tack for wanting Grimoire here. I thought it made good sense to bring it here simultaneously with the itch release, which had been like a year ago at this point. But alas...it was "too niche". You can't tell me with a straight face that a game like Grimoire is too niche (especially for a store that sells old-school RPGs) but Florence isn't too niche. If anything they are about equally niche from a mainstream perspective. That goes for the other games I mentioned as well.

you guys should prbs branch off into your own thread