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Hello darkness, my old friend.



<span class="bold">Downfall: Redux</span>, the bold reimagining of the twisted horror adventure game, is available now DRM-free on GOG.com with a 10% launch discount. Buyers will also get the original Downfall for free.

Sustaining a healthy marriage through the years can be an uphill battle. Joe and Ivy thought they could pull it off but now the cracks are beginning to show. Joe books them a romantic getaway to the Quiet Haven Hotel, convinced that they can still fix this. But his wife is behaving strangely, as though she doesn't even want them to try. And this place.. The Quiet Haven Hotel is not at all how Joe had imagined it. Or perhaps it is exactly like that.

Downfall: Redux is a completely overhauled retelling of Joe Davis' bloody, desperate struggle to win back his wife. Like in the haunting The Cat Lady, the adult themes, the grotesque images, and the macabre story will stay with you long after your visit at the Quiet Haven Hotel has come to its disturbing end. And as with every gripping nightmare, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.



Dive into the abyss and swim alongside your most unspeakable nightmares as you descent into <span class="bold">Downfall: Redux</span>, DRM-free on GOG.com. Everyone who buys the game will also receive Downfall(2009) for free. Those who already own the original will find a 50% discount code for Downfall: Redux in their library. The code will be added to Downfall(2009) in your shelf and can be redeemed until March 15.
The 10% discount will also last until March 15, 4:59 PM GMT.
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TheCollector: This case has nothing to do with patches. It is practically a new game. Content wise, sound wise, graphic wise, control wise. I get your point and think likewise, but in this case you have judged too early.
Then why ISN'T it a new game? That's what I'm saying.

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drealmer7: Except Grim Fandango was changed. Simply changing the music means the game has changed significantly enough to warrant my disinterest in a game I've been wanting to play since it was originally released and still haven't gotten to.
Well, yeah. I did say "as long as the game itself remains unchanged" for a reason. Grim Fandango was one of the few games worthy of a remake - most people that played it still do & consider it one of the best games ever made - but changing stuff was a bad call. It always is.

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toxicTom: Downfall is from 2009. That's 7 years ago. Remigiusz Michalski probably didn't have the money and resources and even skill to make the game as perfect as he wanted it to be. Now he has, and with new possibilities he decided to remake the game.

Like a painter who couldn't afford expensive color who decides to remake an earlier piece of "cheaper" material value into something more elaborate after his first successes, because this piece of art is important to him, and he want to show it to the audience they way he envisioned it. A lot of film directors went that way too - remaking their own early works, but with a better budget.

And, actually, the developer is taking a greater risk that way. Michalski's games are works of art, they're NOT Call of Duty, Yearly Edition. He put all the effort of creating a new game from scratch into something that most of his target audience will probably already have. And all those people will either not buy the remake (don't like it, whatever) or pay only half the price.
Had he instead put that effort into a new game "by the creator of The Cat Lady and Downfall" I'm pretty sure he would make more money out of it.

I don't know if the remake is good (I'm glad the original is included (and free here: http://www.quiethavenhotel.co.uk/)) - directors often failed to capture that made the original work. But to allege greed in this case is stupid and malevolent.
All your points just strengthen my position that he should've just done another game. I'm not big on paintings, but I know enough that Leo didn't redux the Mona Lisa. In fact, apart from "The Last Supper", no other painting has been changed or remade by the artist. As they improve, they create NEW works of art.

As for alleging greed, I was talking about the situation as a whole. Unfortunately, it was *this* game that spilled the glass for me. It could've been any other.

As it is, I do not harbour any ill feelings towards the creator, but I gotta take a stand at some point. This was it, I guess.

If artists grow, and have more means at their disposal, then use the improved talent & funds to create something new. Leave the old stuff alone, as it is. It's part of history & your own personal growth as an artist. Leave it. Create something new.
This reminds me that I should download Downfall 2009 and play it first.
As for Downfall: Redux. Wishlisted for now. Art style looks very nice to me, but didn't read any review yet.
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Dalthnock: That's it, I'm drawing the line here on this latest fad.

And what's more, I was beginning to purchase new games, but now that's over.

I will just wait until the game is really, really old to make sure there are no "redux" or "definitive" or whatever else.

I guess supporting developers is a mug's game? You give them an inch, they'll ravage your wallet.

Pity it was an apparently independent developer that broke the camel's back for me, but I refuse to support this ridiculous concept any more.

I'm tired of being dick-slapped in the face. Paying for patches is just retarded.
this game is not the same as the old Downfall... Redux is clearly moved from classic point-and-click to The Cat Lady engine, but the overall style seems very different (worse, if you ask me)
low rated
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m0ds: Thank you! and thanks GOG!!

I think it's worth noting that many of the reasons behind this "remake" are because of the partnership between Screen 7 and Harvester Games. If you remember, the original Downfall had nothing to do with Screen 7. Since the partnership began with the release of The Cat Lady, we wanted to bring our product range in line and Downfall seemed like a good step for the developer to continue, as others have said, the vision for the "TCL Universe" or whatever you might call it.

If anyone is to blame then it's Screen 7 for asking Harvester Games to make a brand new edition of Downfall. Michalski had no intention of that initially, but as I explained to him, Screen 7 has nothing to do with the original so it doesn't reflect our partnership at all, we could not fix it, update it or modify it in anyway to reflect our working together, so he embraced the decision to remake it so we could further our work together (and maybe vision, we like making games!)

Downfall now sits properly within a trilogy (the third game will be underway soon enough). The original Downfall 2009 version is not forgotten, but fans of that need to understand it's a product that has very little weight with Screen 7, who now pretty much represent Harvester Games and their works. This is not a cash grab, this is ensuring our partnership works. And hopefully for players, it means experiencing new and interesting things, even if in some ways they are "old" or have existed in some ways before.

Just wanted to put that out there, I think it's fine that some people may be concerned about this as a simple makeover or a marketing strategy or something, but it isn't supposed to be like that. Perhaps it's more enjoyable than the original and perhaps its not to some people, but if you enjoyed The Cat Lady, the redux here is an important step if you're on board with this trilogy. If you are just going to hold onto the original, that's also fine, but please understand it had its time and its place, Screen 7 and Harvester Games have moved on, working with what we've got and what we've learned from The Cat Lady experience, and I think it's for the better - even if it seems like we are creating some kind of Downfall DLC... ;)

Hope you enjoy it though!
So you're saying you forced the guy to do this because you weren't making any money off of his game?

All you people disagreeing with me, are you reading this?

Called it. Nailed it. Dunked it.
This style of artwork is the stuff nightmares are made of. *shivers*
I have the original game but this is a bit pricy for me right now even with 50% discount. Anyway it's very tempting... original Downfall was somewhat clunky and gameplay there wasn't perfect but The Cat Lady is a masterpiece so I wouldn't mind to play this incredibly gloomy game again in a new form.

I dunno... -75% probably will not be here soon anyway. Tough choice :P
Post edited February 15, 2016 by meelten
One of the SSs provided makes me less interested in this game because it makes me think it has not-good writing:

"go and smoke in the bathroom" -

This means you are telling the person to do 2 things "go in the bathroom" and "smoke in the bathroom."

That's not even telling the person to go INTO the bathroom, but to "go in" the bathroom, which to me means do #1 or #2. Does this person have a history of "going" in the kitchen?

If they want to tell the person to do 1 thing it would be "go smoke in the bathroom."

I'm really tired of poor writing everywhere.
Post edited February 15, 2016 by drealmer7
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Cyraxpt: Not interested and still not buying gog games but kudos for the sound of silence reference, i absolutely love that song.
I think you mean Hotel California ;-)

Unless there's another reference that I missed...
Post edited February 15, 2016 by Nesoo
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m0ds: Hope you enjoy it though!
I'm glad it finally arrived! I've been waiting for it since I played the original Downfall (and The Cat Lady before it), and struggled making it run in Win8.1 and the bugs in the inventory.

Purchased in a second. Thanks for the 50% discount!
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Cyraxpt: Not interested and still not buying gog games but kudos for the sound of silence reference, i absolutely love that song.
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Nesoo: I think you mean [utl=https://youtu.be/iqODbP1T3nk?t=4m13s]Hotel California[/url] ;-)

Unless there's another reference that I missed...
"Hello darkness, my old friend. "

not seeing the hotel california similarity
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drealmer7: "Hello darkness, my old friend. "

not seeing the hotel california similarity
Oh geeze, I didn't even notice the first line of the post. Yes, yes indeed :-D

I fixed my link, it goes straight to the line in the song that there was a reference to ;-)
Post edited February 15, 2016 by Nesoo
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Cyraxpt: Not interested and still not buying gog games but kudos for the sound of silence reference, i absolutely love that song.
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Nesoo: I think you mean Hotel California ;-)

Unless there's another reference that I missed...
Unless i'm missing a joke, it's from Simon &amp; Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence

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Nesoo: Oh geeze, I didn't even notice the first line of the post. Yes, yes indeed :-D
Oh, you thought i was talking about the game itself, now i get it. :)
Post edited February 15, 2016 by Cyraxpt
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drealmer7: one of the SSs provided makes me less interested in this game because it makes me think it has not-good writing:

"go and smoke in the bathroom"

this means you are telling the person to do 2 things "go in the bathroom" and "smoke in the bathroom"

That's not even telling the person to go INTO the bathroom, but to "go in" the bathroom, which to me means do #1 or #2...what, does this person have a history of "going" in the kitchen?

if they want to tell the person to do 1 thing it would be "go smoke in the bathroom."

I'm really tired of poor writing everywhere.
The ironing will kill me one day.
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Primo_Victoria: The ironing will kill me one day.
pretty funny

fixed it